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Re: Climate

Somebody needs to explain how batteries, wind turbines, and solar panels are sustainable.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-07-14/california-rooftop-solar-pv-panels-recycling-danger
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/02/green-energy-wind-turbines-are-piling-up-in-landfills-cant-be-recycled.html
https://globalrecycle.net/are-lithium-batteries-recyclable/

Maybe those people can explain why there is no discussion of promoting nuclear energy (which has a small geographic footprint and minimal carbon footprint unlike solar and wind).

Maybe those people can explain why natural gas and coal are opposed with the same level of vitriol.

Maybe those people can point to a scalable pilot test or proof of concept for their "sustainable" energy future and show how it scales.

Maybe they can explain how they know they are right about their dire predictions for the climate are right this time.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/120_years_of_climate_scares.html

#3 mudbug on 2022-07-29 12:37 (Reply)

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CNN'S 'Climate Correspondent' Predicts All Life on Earth Is About to End . . . When hot months come because the northern hemisphere is closer to the sun, temperatures go up.

The Earth is farthest from the Sun when it is summer in the northern hemisphere.

#3.1 Zachriel on 2022-07-29 16:40 (Reply)

But the sun is shining directly onto the northern hemisphere during summer no matter what the distance to/from the sun.

That's the point. It's hot in summer. It's cold in winter.
For the last 4.6 billion years.

#3.1.1 jimg on 2022-07-29 17:19 (Reply)

jimg: But the sun is shining directly onto the northern hemisphere during summer no matter what the distance to/from the sun.

It was the most egregious of a number of incorrect claims.

jimg: It's hot in summer. It's cold in winter. For the last 4.6 billion years.

For certain definitions of hot and cold. (You'd be on safer ground, if you said warmer and cooler.)

In any case, to address your point, throughout Earth's history the mean surface temperature has changed considerably, regardless of the annual cycle. The Earth appears to have two strong equilibrium points (strange attractors), ice and ice-free. Currently, the Earth is relatively balanced between these two points of attraction, but can easily be tipped into one or the other.

#3.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-07-30 10:56 (Reply)

"Far Right" means ordinary citizens

#4 Mike on 2022-07-29 12:46 (Reply)

“FAR RIGHT” FAVORED TO WIN ITALIAN ELECTION
"Far right" means not Communist

I am reminded of a conversation I had in grad school, in the early1980s, after four years of working in the oil field. I pointed out that in the pre-Regan days, inflation would kick you into a higher tax bracket when your real income hadn't increased, but only kept up with inflation.

"That's a very right-wing thing to say," came the reply.

Which made my then-liberal mind conclude that perhaps thinking and being right-wing were not at all mutually exclusive.

#5 Gringo on 2022-07-29 14:50 (Reply)

"Studies Show The Electric Vehicles Democrats Insist You Buy Are Worse For The Environment And Lower Quality"

True. And solar panel farms also increase the air temperature above them. Solar panels only use about 15% of the energy of sunlight falling on them. On bare ground, that energy is reflected back to space; the measure of the reflection is called the 'albedo'. What happens to the 85% of the energy of the sunlight that's not used for electricity? Since it's NOT reflected back to space, it heats up the metal frame of the solar panel and starts radiating infrared, ie. HEAT, into the air. Solar panels are doing the exact opposite of what they were intended for. They're heating up the planet and contributing to solar warming!

#6 Sixtyville on 2022-07-29 14:54 (Reply)

re: Albedo
Uh... not exactly accurate. A portion of the solar energy that strikes a panel will become heat but somewhere around 30% of the solar energy will be reflected. Average earth albedo is around 40%.

#6.1 JD on 2022-07-29 15:48 (Reply)

NASA says satellite measurements made since the late 1970s estimate Earth’s average albedo to be about 0.30. And declining, by the way. The Sun isn't shining any less; it's more energy being absorbed and turned into heat.

#6.1.1 Sixtyville on 2022-07-29 17:06 (Reply)

Re; Definition of recession. The theory first crowd gives no ground, and I have no intention of helping them; but what will they say when there is another quarter of negative growth, and another. Just be honest with a government job who is concerned about growth; and with his and hers government jobs that de-growth looks good.

#7 SF jeff on 2022-07-29 20:47 (Reply)

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