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Tuesday, July 5. 2022

Women and Roe

There is a contradiction between the "grief" and "anguish" and "rage" about the reversal of the Roe decision and ordinary feminist, or plain ordinary views about peoples' sex lives.


Yes, sex is a powerful driver in life for men and women. It is biological and psychological. However, at least after adolescence, we are all endowed with a brain too. In my view, women have all the power. They have the power of attraction, and have the modern power of birth control. 


Excepting rape (or maybe substance-addled non-decision-making), men and women are in charge of conception. It is not rocket science. Women can not leave it all to the boys and very few do. 



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This comment has nothing to do with Roe v Wade.

In my area, I am appalled at the number of women who want to have babies out of wedlock.

I don't understand the rationale for it. Birth control is readily available but for some reason it is better to have bastard children.

I am sure Uncle Sugar figures heavily into the equation, but I don't understand why a young woman would prefer to take on the life changing job of raising a child without a husband.

I just don't understand it. There is a psychological aspect to it that I am missing.
#1 feeblemind on 2022-07-05 19:43 (Reply)
The wife posits that it is all about attention seeking.

When the young woman becomes pregnant all her friends ooh and ahhh and she becomes the center of attention. Then there is more attention received from the baby showers and still more when the baby comes and everyone stops by to ooh and ahhh and hold the baby.

But then they all go away and the young mother is left with the baby. And one day that baby is 7 and 12 and 15 and they become very expensive to care for.

And they need a dad.

Are young women really this myopic in their thinking?
#1.1 feeblemind on 2022-07-05 19:51 (Reply)
The Western education system, and culture at large, has raised a generation of narcissistic females, so yes, a good percentage of them are.
#1.1.1 Maniac on 2022-07-06 08:23 (Reply)
Have you seen the sort of "men" being raised today?

Whiny, entitled little shits.

And the "women" aren't much better.

So no, I'm not surprised that a generation of women raised by people who thought Murphy Brown was a good example, don't want to have a bunch of men who have role models like Magic Johnson and Bill Clinton around.
#1.2 William O. B'Livion on 2022-07-05 21:06 (Reply)
Below a certain tier of US income/culture, getting married and raising kids with the support and cooperation of a husband is not really an option.

These women are making a rational choice to have kids (and create family for themselves) vs. not have kids at all. Marriage was never on the table, and keeping men around means having more immature non-contributing dependents to look after. Arguably, not having kids at all is the wiser choice, but they're not going to be moving up the economic ladder by making that decision. And they will be old and alone. Who the hell wants that?

For them, at least with kids they get some government subsidies, child support if they're lucky, and someone to offer them dumb unconditional love for a while. In many cases getting married actively makes things worse.

I know because we're right on the edge of that income bracket, having a devil of a time finding an affordable house to rent, and we don't qualify for subsidized housing. But we could change that with the stroke of a pen by getting divorced (on paper at least). Then I'd be a single mother with no income. And he'd be just some guy. And we'd qualify for all the state benefits: Section 8, food stamps, WIC, you name it.
#1.3 Churchmouse on 2022-07-05 23:37 (Reply)
Exactly. It’s economics 101: if you throw money at it, you get more of it.
#1.3.1 Ann K. on 2022-07-06 08:05 (Reply)
Exactly. If they set qualifying income for any kind of government aid at the same level regardless of marital status, the marriage rate would instantly climb.
#1.3.2 Kevin in WI on 2022-07-06 16:04 (Reply)
It used to be - maybe as a result of the old feudal system, who knows? - that the clarification and definition of bloodlines was of supreme importance. From this not only nobility derived, but also the idea of the modern nuclear family in this country. How many people have a keen interest in tracing back their genealogy? How many people know more about their family and can trace back further than just their mothers and fathers? How much of our inheritance law has to do with bloodlines and their definition as regards heirs? And how much of our family law has to do with the establishment of paternity? Quite a bit, I would say - although I don't know how the frequency of their reference in legal cases compares today, with years ago. Maybe Hunter Biden could tell us.

Sadly it would seem as if the idea of bloodlines, inheritance, family history, and even memories - these all seem to be disposable to many of younger years. I hope that I'm wrong about this, because without the context of family history, just like national and ancient history, we lose an important part of our life and our consciousness.
#2 Aggie on 2022-07-05 19:55 (Reply)
I will freely admit to not understanding it. (Full disclosure, I identified as asexual until I met the one and only man, so I guess hyper-monogamous? And he can't have kids so it has always been a philosophical discussion for me). Anyway, it is NOT that hard. There are lots of birth control options out there, heck I even went on some (for the other reasons) simply by filling out a couple of online forms. There are now several that are long acting, as in years. In my opinion the only people getting pregnant are: they want to, they are morally lazy, or the .001 percent that are truly too young or forced in some way. I have no patience with the lazy.
But I also feel that abortion is a sin. It may be, in a few very few, instances a sin that is better than the other sin. Safe, legal, and rare I could have tolerated; abortion as birth control I cannot tolerate.
#3 ACH (Link) on 2022-07-05 19:56 (Reply)
IMO, there's an aspect involving envy demanding "equity". Some pro-abortion wag, IIRC female, said "There goes our hook-up culture". Everybody has known since cave days, the Jane Ughh has the same sex drive as John Urghh. Jane had to control her urges, where John did not. Enter birth control with its side effects on the ladies. Enter "men" who say, "I can't get no good feelz with one of those things over my johnson." Enter the chorus which bleats, "If it's not spontaneous and un-delayed, it's no good." Hence, the perceived need for uterus-scraping. Like ACH, I have little quarrel with "physical well-being, rape and incest exceptions, but "I can't enjoy my spring break with this THING growing in me" sets my teeth on edge. Get a different man!
#4 LTC Ted on 2022-07-05 22:42 (Reply)
What abject jibberish. The idea that people can't get married and have children like human beings instead of behaving like fucking animals in the richest country on earth is pure, crystalline bullshit.

Want to live in a society of monkeys? Simply accept monkey behavior. Accept monkey morality. Excuse people being pieces of shit. You'll get what you earned, but worse, you'll provide it for everyone else. Thanks for nothing.
#5 ccoffer on 2022-07-06 00:14 (Reply)
Yes, because contraception never fails, lol. What a perfect world some of us live in!

Keep in mind that many women cannot tolerate hormonal contraceptives and are forced to rely upon barrier methods:
http://www.contracept.org/risks.php
#6 Jm01 on 2022-07-06 02:26 (Reply)
Morning After pill. It is made for foolish women.
#6.1 Bird Dog on 2022-07-06 08:39 (Reply)
I do absolutely think it should be much easier for adult women to get a tubal ligation. Last I heard, most docs will not do it until you're 30, for fear you'll change your mind and sue them later. Perhaps that's changing, now that it's apparently OK to sterilize teenagers.

It'd be hella easier for women who can't be assed to use contraceptives, but also can't comprehend the idea of just... you know... not having sex. From the wailing in the streets lately, this is a much larger demographic than I thought.
#6.2 Churchmouse on 2022-07-06 09:16 (Reply)
Most of the women who have children outside of marriage wanted that choice. A majority of them chose that as a lifestyle because the government takes care of all your needs and you can party without commitment for the next 20-30 years. These are not victims or people who need our help they are grifters who see an flaw in our system and take advantage of it. If you ended all welfare tomorrow the out of marriage child rate would drop like a rock.
#7 OneGuy on 2022-07-06 09:54 (Reply)

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