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Thursday, May 12. 2022Thursday morning linksAdmit it, you think you could land a plane if suddenly called upon to do so Woke NBA to Hold Preseason Games in UAE Where Homosexuality is Punishable by Death – Canceled Game in Charlotte in 2016 Over Transgender Bathroom Law The evidence keeps pouring in showing the utter failure of all COVID mandates Some Tips On How To Spot "Disinformation" One of these takes on the new agency shows a competent grasp of history, politics, and philosophy. The other is the Washington Post. US President very displeased with his administration Democrats Overwhelmingly Vote to Allow Abortion up to Birth Ukraine shutting off Russian gas lines, pushing Russia back in places Trackbacks
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Bird Dog: Democrats Overwhelmingly Vote to Allow Abortion up to Birth
The bill allows for elective abortions up to viability, and only allows abortions to protect the life and health of the mother after viability. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4132/text Per Doe v Bolton, which I believe is still the controlling ruling on the permissibility of abortion after viability as I have not seen any reporting that Casey or any other case changed it ...
Whether, in the words of the Georgia statute, "an abortion is necessary" is a professional judgment that the Georgia physician will be called upon to make routinely. We agree with the District Court, 319 F. Supp., at 1058, that the medical judgment may be exercised in the light of all factors - physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age - relevant to the well-being of the patient. All these factors may relate to health. As a practical matter, no restriction at all. Christopher B: As a practical matter, no restriction at all.
99% of abortions occur before viability. So you are against exceptions, even if it costs the life or serious harm to the mother? That a mother must carry to term, even if the fetus, for example, has a fatal tumor that makes carrying to term dangerous? Regardless, the article dissembles on the Women's Health Protection Act when it claimed there were "no limits"? Always with the fallacies.
Who cares of 99% of all abortions are before viability? That has nothing to do with the matter. And your other comments are even more idiotic. I get so tired of seeing the need for abortions after viability to protect the life of the mother. What we actually do is deliver the baby and send it to the NICU if we are not at term and then make the mom better. There is no need to kill the baby to do this. There is never a need for an abortion after viability.
If the baby has a lethal anomaly, deliver before term is fine. I wouldn't consider that an abortion.... Storkdoc: I get so tired of seeing the need for abortions after viability to protect the life of the mother. What we actually do is deliver the baby and send it to the NICU if we are not at term and then make the mom better.
Women who carry the child to late pregnancy almost always want the child. You are correct that the vast majority of the time, delivery is a safer option, but not always. A case of severe preeclampsia can mean that natural birth or even caesarean is much more dangerous to the mother than abortion. In other cases, the baby may be so damaged that continuing the pregnancy would only result in more suffering for the mother and baby. "You are correct that the vast majority of the time, delivery is a safer option, but not always. A case of severe preeclampsia can mean that natural birth or even caesarean is much more dangerous to the mother than abortion. In other cases, the baby may be so damaged that continuing the pregnancy would only result in more suffering for the mother and baby."
In this you are entirely wrong. I have been practicing obstetrics for 32 years. I have never seen or read about a case of severe pre-eclampsia where delivery is more dangerous then delivery. The treatment for pre-eclampsia is delivery. Since pre-eclampsia can cause DIC and fetal death can worsen the risk of DIC, you want to deliver a live baby. Killing the baby doesn't help the situation. If continuing the pregnancy results in more damage to the mom or baby again we would deliver and send the baby to the NICU and sometimes the mom to the ICU. The ONLY reason to kill the baby is because you want the baby dead. You have no idea what you are talking about.... Storkdoc: I have never seen or read about a case of severe pre-eclampsia where delivery is more dangerous then delivery.
Late-term abortions are rare. Most are because of fetal abnormalities precluding a reasonable expection of life. Here's an example of preeclampsia endangering the mother's life: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/19/abortion-mother-life-walsh/1644839/ Here's an example with a fetal tumor: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/18/late-term-abortion-experience-donald-trump QUOTE: ACOG {American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists} says women may need later-stage abortions if the fetus is likely to die before or right after birth due to anomalies like anencephaly — when a big portion of the brain, skull and scalp are missing. It may also be necessary when a woman's life is threatened: Issues like placental abruption, or when the placenta separates too soon from the uterus, can be fatal, due to complications including blood loss, stroke, and septic shock. https://obgyn.uw.edu/news/%E2%80%98-vanishingly-small-number%E2%80%99-women-have-abortions-third-trimester-here%E2%80%99s-why-most-them-do-it
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Zachriel
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2022-05-14 09:17
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The answer to pro abortionists is: Every baby born, and "unwanted" would be adopted by any of three families.
If you have to talk to them QUOTE: Some Tips On How To Spot "Disinformation" . . . “A long time ago, way before you were born, a group of white people made up an idea called race. They sorted people by skin color and said that white people were better, smarter, prettier, and that they deserve more than everybody else,” the book declares. Not disinformation. He may be referring to Han Chinese vs. their Central Asian and Southeast Asian neighbors, or the Bantu vs. Khoi-San, or the Japanese vs. Korean and Ainu, or the Mughal vs. the Hindu peoples, or the Aztecs vs pretty much everybody they encountered.
All of these existed long before there was any real conception of a unified, white European culture. Pretending that racism is an invention of White, European Males completely disregards history. Another Guy Named Dan: He may be referring to Han Chinese vs. their Central Asian and Southeast Asian neighbors, or the Bantu vs. Khoi-San, or the Japanese vs. Korean and Ainu, or the Mughal vs. the Hindu peoples, or the Aztecs vs pretty much everybody they encountered.
Those groupings are not the same as the modern concept of race, which developed in Europe in response to the Age of Discovery and the ensuing colonization. See our reply to mudbug (2.2.1.2).
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Zachriel
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2022-05-12 14:27
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More quibbling by the (((Quibble-DickZ))).
#2.1.1.1.1.1
Zachinoff
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2022-05-12 14:36
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Ah, I get it. We're only referring to Dead White European Male Racism. None of those other manifestions resulting in vassalage, slavery, wandering in the desert for 40 years, or cannibalism need apply.
then you're just making the tautalogical argument that modern white-people racism is different becasue it is practiced by modern white people. I pointed out that at pretty much every period of history and on pretty much every continent there are examples of one group using a self-defined criteria of superiority to justify the subjugation or extermination of another group.
It seems to me that you're falling into a very racist trap of thinking that we, as a modern white-people dominated society, are the first in history to be better than those who practiced racism in the past.
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Another guy named Dan
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2022-05-12 15:42
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Mike Anderson: None of those other manifestions resulting in vassalage, slavery, wandering in the desert for 40 years, or cannibalism need apply.
There are a lot of bad things in the world, but not all of them are racism. Another guy named Dan: then you're just making the tautalogical argument that modern white-people racism is different becasue it is practiced by modern white people. There have always been in-group and out-group dynamics, however, racism is a modern concept and has a decidely scientific veneer. "Racism is also a relatively new idea: its birth can be traced to the European colonization of much of the world, the rise and development of European capitalism, and the development of the European and US slave trade." — The Social Science Encyclopedia edited by Adam Kuper.
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Zachriel
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2022-05-12 16:29
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Your reply is wrong. So deal with it and stop referencing it.
Perhaps the zachbot collective could share with us which specific group of "white people" this was? And exactly when? And how do we know this?
More likely is that the collective's paymasters want them to parrot the narrative, hence the decree of not disinformation. Just speculative bullshit that allows the Zachbit and others to continue their hate on the predominant culture, which they ignorantly attribute to race. Earle: which specific group of "white people" this was? And exactly when? And how do we know this?
Seriously? QUOTE: Thomas Jefferson, 1788: I advance it therefore as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of body and mind. QUOTE: A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union, 1861: We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. QUOTE: QUOTE: George Wallace, 1958: I was out-ni**ered, and I will never be out-ni**ered again. QUOTE: Steve King, 2019: “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” Quoting Democrats' views on race is not the same thing as inventing the concept of race.
It's worse, it's idiotic.
She knows nothing of constructing an actual logical argument. mudbug: Quoting Democrats' views on race is not the same thing as inventing the concept of race.
In case you didn't notice, it was a compound claim. We responded to the latter claim, about sorting by race. Concerning the former claim: QUOTE: Britannica: Race as a categorizing term referring to human beings was first used in the English language in the late 16th century. Until the 18th century it had a generalized meaning similar to other classifying terms such as type, sort, or kind. Occasional literature of Shakespeare’s time referred to a “race of saints” or “a race of bishops.” By the 18th century, race was widely used for sorting and ranking the peoples in the English colonies—Europeans who saw themselves as free people, Amerindians who had been conquered, and Africans who were being brought in as slave labour—and this usage continues today. Notably, the definition of "white" has changed over time. For instance: QUOTE: Benjamin Franklin, 1751: All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. The Swedes! Oooh, powerful comeback.
You care to offer any real response? And maybe be honest for once? I doubt you will. You're a (((liar))) Zimmerman piece on covid. First graph leaves out the percentage of people in the population as a whole who were vaccinated, rendering the numbers meaningless. The accusation of the number of people dying - in a pandemic, mind you - without specifying what they died of makes that number meaningless as well.
People need to have a minimum of skepticism when reading things they want to hear. This took me less than 2 minutes. I rather think that as the Pfizer docs are released, we will find more and more evidence that the "science" was ignored and that the vaxx was just "the latest thing". Like Russia, Russia, Russia, and now Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. When the philosophy is "never let crises go to waste" it seems quite logical that creating a crisis is the way to go. More inflation, more war, less fuel, less food...what a racket.
QUOTE: without specifying what they died of makes that number meaningless as well. -AVI Wow. I remember when a whole bunch of us said this very same thing, back in early 2020! Weren’t you on the opposite side of the fence? My apologies if I am not remembering things correctly. There is a hotdog eating contest, and 1,500 hot dogs are consumed. One guy wins the contest, eating 150 hotdogs, six people get sick. We know how many hotdogs they consumed, and we can see the undigested hot dogs in the bile. We would naturally assume that eating too many hotdogs, in a sort time, caused these people to get sick. Granted, we don’t know for sure, but we can be 99% sure. We also don’t know how many hotdogs were consumed throughout the entire population. We don’t know how many people got sick from eating hotdogs that day. We can reasonably assume that eating to many hotdogs in a few minutes will make you sick. This is how studies are conducted, no? Thus, no study is perfect. And always be skeptical of the experts, which you were defending just the other day. Here are your numbers. Not sure if you followed the many links from the Zimmerman piece? They specify that these are Covid cases, we don’t know what exactly they died from, though they say COVID-19. I’m skeptical that anyone has died of only covid - I am probably wrong. There are at least four comorbidities that can cause severe Covid complications. UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) weekly ‘Vaccine Surveillance’ report: “The report reveals that there were 833,332 recorded Covid-19 cases, 9,094 Covid-19 hospitalisations and 3,700 Covid-19 deaths from October 25th to November 21st. Of these the unvaccinated accounted for 39% of all cases, 34% of all hospitalisations, and 19% of all deaths. Whilst the vaccinated accounted for 61% of all cases, 66% of all hospitalisations, and 81% of all deaths.“ B. Hammer: There are at least four comorbidities that can cause severe Covid complications.
Someone with diabetes may live for decades with modern treatment. They become infected with COVID and die in the hospital after weeks of respiratory distress. QUOTE: Monthly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) have been consistently lower for all months since booster introduction . . . Totally irrelevant to this discussion.
You always persist in that sort of thing. (((Stereotype))) (((Quibble-DickZ))) gotta quibble doncha know..
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Zachinoff
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2022-05-12 14:26
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Only AVI has license to be skeptical here.
Apparently the rest of us are unable to interpret statistics, or are guilty of cognitive bias. If we are skeptical of AVI's position we are simply wrong. Wonder what his position is on this.
QUOTE: Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins and other bigwigs at the National Institutes of Health reaped more than $350 million in secretive “royalty” payments from drug companies and other third parties over a 10-year period, according to an explosive new report from a watchdog organization. https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci-collins-shared-in-secret-nih-royalties-totaling-350m-watchdog-report 'The evidence keeps pouring in showing the utter failure of all COVID mandates'
I'm supposed to see one of my favorite bands in Boston this fall and I'll have to get a negative Covid test from CVS a few days beforehand if the stupidity doesn't change. I am reasonably sure I could keep a plane in the air successfully. However, landing a plane is an extremely precise way of not keeping a plane in the air, and requires a set of skills I'm not as sure that I have.
A single-engine Cessna can land slow enough that anyone who can capably drive a car could make a "survivable" landing.
Assuming you can use the radio (granted, a pretty big assumption) ATC could give you directions and a good enough 20 minute flight lesson to guide you to a very survivable landing. But the average person would also be fighting a huge pucker factor. former HELO FAM instructor (with enough cocaine, you can teach a dog to fly) "...anyone who can capably drive a car could make a "survivable" landing."
Possibly. But they would have to get past the fact that you steer with your feet when on the ground. I grew up before baby formula was available and I'm sure there are good alternatives to these modern convenience products.
Yes, I’m sure babies survived on cow, goat and other animal milk before “formula” was invented. In the book, “The Von Trapp Family Singers”, that the Sound of Music was based on, Maria describes how her youngest child survived on orange juice after her milk failed. Humans are resilient!
Cause of death on my aunt's infant death certificate in 1910, Bottle Fed.
We have come a long way since 1910. Today we would probably know the real cause of death AND if some whacko said it was "bottle fed" there would likely be a law suit against them.
Certainly, there are, beginning with the mother's milk. However, not all women can successfully breastfeed. I failed to produce enough milk for my daughter. My granddaughter could never latch on or suck well enough to breastfeed, which meant it was not feasible for my daughter either. However, there mothers throughout history have used milk from various animals (cow, goat) and even soy milk. None are perfect substitutes, and so we purchased infant formula. Some more successful nursing mothers even pump and freeze and donate their excess breast milk, a modern echo of wet nursing. This latter source would, of course, be very nutritious, but not available in large enough quantities to alleviate the shortage.
Imagine the Unimaginable
A powerful piece by Victor Davis Hanson QUOTE: The traditional bedrocks of the American system — a stable economy, energy independence, vast surpluses of food, hallowed universities, a professional judiciary, law enforcement, and a credible criminal justice system — are dissolving. . . . Crime is now mostly a political matter. Ideology, race, and politics determine whether the law is even applied. . . . Politics are resembling the violent last days of the Roman Republic. . . . Merit is disappearing. . . . The common denominator in all of this is ideology overruling empiricism, common sense, and pragmatism. . . . The Left has no confidence either in constitutional government or common sense. . . . When revolutionaries undermine the system, earn the antipathy of the people, and face looming disaster at the polls, it is then they prove most dangerous — as we shall see over the next few months. https://pjmedia.com/columns/victor-davis-hanson/2022/05/12/imagine-the-unimaginable-n1597243 There is no institution that has not been politicized and determined to mandate as it pleases over whoever it pleases and at whatever cost to the republic.
Zero Hedge was seeing this some weeks ago.
Diesel Fuel Shortage Sets Stage for Next Biden Created Crisis QUOTE: Inventories of diesel fuel, which in the U.S. is mostly used by truckers, have been on the decline since the pandemic began, but those declines have accelerated since the start of this year. Analysts attribute the declines to reduced refining capacity, robust demand for the trucker fuel during the pandemic, and a recent rise in diesel exports. . . . On the East Coast, the situation is even worse. The EIA said distillate fuel oil inventories in the so-called PADD 1 district that covers the Northeastern states fell by 1.1 million barrels last week to just 21 million barrels, the lowest ever recorded in data going back to 1990. Love's truck stops, with some 550 locations across 41 states, also seemed to confirm reports on social media Wednesday that said Love's and other truck stops such as Pilot were informing their fleet operators that shortages of diesel fuel on the East Coast may happen in the coming week at some stores. Diesel exports? WTF? QUOTE: Some analysts have speculated that the rising exports are being sent to Europe following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. https://www.morningstar.com/news/dow-jones/2022051116099/top-truck-stop-loves-is-monitoring-diesel-supplies-amid-shortage-fears One wonders about the home heating oil situation for the Northeast next winter? Will a lot of people freeze? Add the pilot story to the "Florida Man" log, this one is much more positive!
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