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Keep your eye on their hands and not the cards. This is a grift and they must divert your attention so they can pick your pocket. Most thinking people by now know that there is no anthropogenic global warming, none, zip, nada. In fact the average world temp only increased by 1 degree Celsius since the end of the mini ice age. Even without the AGW scam it was expected to get hotter than that. Thank god it did warm up that1 degree but it would have been better if it were 1.5-2 degrees. This scam has never been about the actual science, the scientists were bought of decades ago. This grift is about world power and money, all the money and all the power. For that reason the grift must succeed and they may start getting violent with anyone who gets in the way of the new world order.
You just have to look at the magical, Marxist, zero-sum thinking that making rich countries less rich will make poor countries less poor.
Climate chaos is all about the government acquiring more control, power, and especially money for the elitists.
Donald Trump actually did more to reduce harmful industrial emissions than all the greenies combined. His tariffs on Chinese products visibly reduced Chinese industrial pollution and moved that production to clean plants in the U.S.
I've done my part to address climate change by buying a pack of AAA rechargeable batteries.
QUOTE: The truth about global warming, man-made climate change, or whatever it is to be called by the smart people these days, is that while man’s CO2 emissions likely have some effect on the climate – it is, after all, a greenhouse gas, though weak and only a minute part of the atmosphere, a little more than 400 parts per million – its impact is not enough to be a threat of much if any consequence. The vast majority of the atmosphere is made up of monatomic and homonuclear diatomic molecules, which are virtually unaffected by infrared radiation. Consequently, the Earth's greenhouse effect is caused by the remaining trace gases. Without the greenhouse effect, the Earth would be a chilly -18°C rather than the balmy +15°C that it is, so we know trace atmospheric gases have a significant impact on the Earth's mean global temperature. Since you don't understand how a greenhouse works, maybe you should shut up.
DrTorch: Since you don't understand how a greenhouse works
Both a garden greenhouse and the atmospheric greenhouse allow light to penetrate and warm the air, with the energy being converted to heat. The difference is that the glass of the garden greenhouse traps the warm air, while greenhouse gases in the atmosphere absorb and re-radiate the heat. But you don't seem to be making an actual point. Are you just trolling? You project again. I'm not trolling, I posted a fact. You don't understand science, and you repeatedly post the same bullshit even after being called on it.
Since that's a fact, why do you do it? Why do you post misinformation? And why do you avoid this question repeatedly, even while answering (usually incorrectly) questions that weren't asked? Why do you refuse to learn anything? As for how a greenhouse works, here's a primer. It's for you, b/c the other posters here are generally bright and know quite a bit about science and engineering. http://www.greenhouse-management.com/greenhouse_management/greenhouse_heating/mechanisms_greenhouse_heat_loss_gain.htm Oh, and since you'll miss the point, monoatomic and homonuclear diatomic molecules readily are involved with convection and conduction. And again, your comments about a trivial effect of radiative absorption by a low concentration of polyatomic molecules do not demonstrate convincing evidence that warming of the Earth is due to CO2 emissions. You simply state some trivia and then insist that's a logical deduction. It's not, b/c you don't know what logical deductions actually look like. You don't get anything that requires intelligence, b/c you're a (((fool))) DrTorch: http://www.greenhouse-management.com/greenhouse_management/greenhouse_heating/mechanisms_greenhouse_heat_loss_gain.htm
Nothing in your link contradicts what we previously stated, and the modes of heat transfer in the link apply to many heat systems. However, the Earth as a whole can only gain or lose heat radiatively. DrTorch: (((fool))) We note your use of the anti-Semitic triple parentheses.
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 14:28
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That you think what I noted doesn't contradict your assertion just shows you don't know what you're talking about.
Fool. DrTorch,
You last comment doesn't have any relevant content. You might want to check your transmission. Z: Both a garden greenhouse and the atmospheric greenhouse allow light to penetrate and warm the air, with the energy being converted to heat. The difference is that the glass of the garden greenhouse traps the warm air, while greenhouse gases in the atmosphere absorb and re-radiate the heat. With regards to a garden greenhouse: ✓ The glazing of the greenhouse allows sunlight to penetrate to the interior of the greenhouse. ✓ The sunlight is absorbed by the contents of the greenhouse, warming them. ✓ The greenhouse glazing traps the air (otherwise it would mix through convection with the cooler, outside air). ✓ The greenhouse largely cools through conduction between the greenhouse structure and the outside air. With regards to the atmospheric greenhouse effect: ✓ The atmosphere is transparent to visible light, allowing the sunlight to penetrate to the Earth's surface. ✓ The sunlight warms the Earth's surface. ✓ The warm surface re-radiates the heat as infrared. ✓ The infrared is absorbed by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. ✓ The greenhouse gases in the atmosphere re-radiate the infrared, some of which is directed at the ground, some towards space. ✓ The effect is to slow the transfer of heat from the surface, which results in the surface being warmer than it otherwise would be. ✓ Unlike the garden greenhouse, the atmosphere can only lose heat to space radiatively.
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 15:16
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Wrong on so many levels.
But most importantly, the effect to slow the transfer of heat is very small b/c conduction and convection still occur, taking heat from lower levels to upper levels, where they radiate into space. Since this is a major factor in heat transfer, and the CO2 levels you fret about have changed only slightly, and are dominated by vapor phase H2O concentrations anyway, the overall effect is minimal. That's why you're a fool. And you come from a line of (((fools))). DrTorch: conduction and convection still occur, taking heat from lower levels to upper levels, where they radiate into space.
That's right. The Earth can only gain or lose heat radiatively. DrTorch: Since this is a major factor in heat transfer, and the CO2 levels you fret about have changed only slightly . . . So, you agree that the Earth's surface is significantly warmer than it otherwise would be because of naturally-occurring greenhouse gases?
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 15:51
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 16:13
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DrTorch: your comments about a trivial effect of radiative absorption by a low concentration of polyatomic molecules do not demonstrate convincing evidence that warming of the Earth is due to CO2 emissions
As noted, the majority of the greenhouse effect is due to naturally-occurring greenhouse gases. We can determine from first principles (calculating the planet's effective temperature) that the Earth's oceans would be largely frozen absent the greenhouse effect.
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 14:34
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"We"?
Really? Then do so. I challenged you on this before and you couldn't even identify the first principles, let alone use them to demonstrate any sort of logical conclusion. So answer my questions before you go volunteering other questions (that you can't answer correctly either). DrTorch: I challenged you on this before and you couldn't even identify the first principles
The blackbody (or graybody) temperature is determined by Planck's law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck's_law
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 15:22
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You last comment doesn't have any relevant content. You might want to check your transmission.
Sure it does. You make ridiculous claims w/ no support for them, I certainly owe you no time to correct them. What I give you is from my own generosity...your C-PS doesn't work on me, and your whining about it doesn't bother me. Actually I enjoy watching you whine. The blackbody (or graybody) temperature is determined by Planck's law. Haha. That's far from the only principle involved, otherwise they wouldn't have so many failed computer models. And it's not a first principle either. We can determine from first principles And you certainly failed to live up to your own claim. I don't need to put words in your mouth to show you're a fool, I just need to repeat what you write. As I've shown for years, you know nothing about this subject, nor the claims you make. You are simply a liar repeating the same lies over and over. Which is why you have been banned from so many sites. I enjoy demonstrating your stupidity and dishonesty to the world. But you owe answers as to why you keep posting lies. Still no relevant content, just trolling. Let us know when you have something relevant to say.
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Zachriel
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2022-04-07 16:02
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So this is your response when proven wrong. Pathetic. Except it proves every criticism I have about you is 100% correct.
If you don't like when I point out you are a (((stereotype))) then don't be a (((stereotype))). But you can't help yourself. Well done, DrTorch.
Seems the (((Quibble-DickZ))) picked up their "ball", went home and left you with another ad hom. Seems they use their same silly little "arguments" over and over again. Should one ever want to waste minutes concerning their "arguments" just peruse the um... "discussion" at ... https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/the-farcical-green-new-deal/ ...where the (((Quibble-DickZ))) are figuratively handed their asses again on the same subject. (The article and comments are from Feb. 2019)
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Zachinoff
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2022-04-09 16:48
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