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Norway bans breeding Cavalier King Charles Spaniels, bulldogs

Graphic Content Restrictions Are Not Book Bans

Is Jewish a race?

Public Health Midwits

Johns Hopkins Analysis: ‘Lockdowns Should be Rejected Out of Hand’

National FIRE survey: Cancel culture widely viewed as threat to democracy, freedom

When Artists Become the Censors - The new moral majority comes for Joe Rogan.

Schools Embrace BLM ‘Week of Action,’ Teach Students to ‘Disrupt Western Nuclear Family Dynamics’

Georgetown Considers Implementing ‘Cry Room’ for Students Offended by Law Prof Ilya Shapiro’s Tweets

Tucker Carlson has some very unexpected people watching his show

America’s ballooning national debt has exceeded the $30 trillion mark for the first time ever, according to Treasury Department data.

How NATO Empire-Building Set The Stage For Crisis Over Ukraine

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'Tucker Carlson has some very unexpected people watching his show'

I suspect a lot of those Democrats are realizing that their party is no longer the party of JFK and is instead the party of the guy who assassinated him.

#1 Maniac on 2022-02-03 09:19 (Reply)

These students that are being trained to disrupt the nuclear family - are they the same ones who need a safe space to cry if somebody hurts their feelings? If you're that emotionally fragile, you need a mental institution, not an institution of higher learning. Which is why I suspect these people need nothing more than to be laughed at or smacked upside the head - they aren't crybabies, they're crybullies claiming to be triggered because that nonsense works. Stop giving into these terrorists demands.

#2 Jerryskids on 2022-02-03 09:20 (Reply)

What they really need is a stable nuclear family, I suspect.

#2.1 Aggie on 2022-02-03 10:49 (Reply)

"Is Jewish a race"
The scam is that racism is used to keep the various minority groups angry enough to vote for those politicians who give them free stuff. This scam trickles down to every civilian operation where minorities can claim racism and go to court and win millions. As a side scam the various minorities must keep any whites from exercising their "right " to accuse a minority of racism. This is mostly because in fact it is the minorities today who are the most racist and if whites were allowed to use the same tactic this scam would collapse like a house of cards. Whoopi stepped into it by committing the sin of saying anything out of line regarding the holocaust or Jewish persecution. The outrage from the left on this is NOT in sympathy to the Jewish experience it is in fact in sympathy to the scam and fear of collapsing the scam.

#3 OneGuy on 2022-02-03 09:27 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Is Jewish a race

The word "Jewish" can refer either to the religion or to the ethnic group. People of the Jewish faith have been subject to persecution for centuries (Martin Luther). People of Jewish ethnicity have been subject to persecution for centuries (Nazism).

OneGuy: The scam . . .

The Holocaust is not a scam. It happened.

#3.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 10:11 (Reply)

Reading comprehension is a problem for you isn't it? If you read it carefully you will not see any reference to the Holocaust being a scam. But I thank you for confirming my point. Obviously your intent was to smear me with... wait for it... racism!

#3.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-02-03 10:23 (Reply)

OneGuy: Reading comprehension . . .

Let's re-read it. In answer to the question "Is Jewish a race?" you replied, "The scam is that racism is used to keep the various minority groups angry enough to vote for those politicians who give them free stuff." So, if you aren't referring to racism against Jews, then to what were you referring?

#3.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 10:31 (Reply)

Ya might want to read it one more time, Quibble-DickZ, just to make sure.

#3.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-02-03 14:41 (Reply)

Wait for it... Whoopi!!! And how she exposed the scam. Duh!

#3.1.1.1.2 OneGuy on 2022-02-03 15:11 (Reply)

You'd really like to shift the debate to one over whether the Holocaust happened, just like most everybody would much rather make this about whether Caryn Johnson used a politically correct word for Jew-hate.

OneGuy nailed it. The most important part of her rant is the pure tribalism of the question of why she should care what two groups of white people did to each other since it's obvious to her that her victimhood should trump anything that has happened to anybody else.

#3.1.2 Christopher B on 2022-02-03 10:31 (Reply)

Christopher B: You'd really like to shift the debate to one over whether the Holocaust happened

The question was "Is Jewish a Race," in the context of Whoopie Goldberg's comments about the Holocaust, which OneGuy directly responded to with a comment about "the scam."

Christopher B: The most important part of her rant is the pure tribalism of the question of why she should care what two groups of white people did to each other since it's obvious to her that her victimhood should trump anything that has happened to anybody else.

Goldberg was simply wrong. Jews have been long persecuted because of ancestry, including the Holocaust. Race is a social construct, and "White" has included different groups of people at different times and in different cultures. Even Germans were considered too swarthy at one time.

QUOTE:

Benjamin Franklin: Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/02/swarthy-germans/48324/

Swedes!

#3.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 10:46 (Reply)

I think it's more accurate to say that our language is failing us - in this day of hyper-sensitivity over genetic makeup, we are conflating genetic race with ethnic identity, which is a different subject that can include race, religion, national origin, etc. I wonder what John McWhorter thinks of this - I suspect he's probably addressed it before. We need to retire the incessant overuse of 'racism' and replace it with a different thought construct, and synthesize a better way to discuss the finer points of both race and ethnicity. It doesn't help that in all officialdom, the categorization of race includes the 'Hispanic' ethnic category - and no other one.

Compared to Whoopi Goldberg's odious and fatuous words, it's shocking to consider what Rosanne Barr was banished for. And she's actually Jewish, not just adopting a Jewish name to improve her chances of getting work - another identity sin Whoopi has committed in the world she inhabits.

#3.2 Aggie on 2022-02-03 10:58 (Reply)

Jews are both a nation and a religion.
Biological race has nothing to do with it.

You inherit nationhood and have the option of affirming your inherited religion.
You can also naturalize and become a citizen, or convert to a religion.

One cannot convert to another race or sex, despite the rantings of woke crazies.

#3.3 Ben David on 2022-02-03 11:58 (Reply)

If you intimate that Martin Luther had anything to do with the beginning of the history of anti-Semitism, you establish only that you fail to understand History, anti-Semitism, and Martin Luther.

#3.4 Another guy named Dan on 2022-02-03 12:26 (Reply)

Another guy named Dan: If you intimate that Martin Luther had anything to do with the beginning of the history of anti-Semitism, you establish only that you fail to understand History, anti-Semitism, and Martin Luther.

Martin Luther is no more the start of the persecution of the Jewish religion than Nazism was the start of the persecution of Jewish ethnicity. Not sure where you could have read that. But, Martin Luther did his part to fan the (literal) flames of antisemitism.

QUOTE:

First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them . . .

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed . . .

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them.

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb . . .

Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews . . .

— Martin Luther, On the Jews and Their Lies

#3.4.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 12:57 (Reply)

The jew is expected to be an object of worship. When one understands this dynamic, many things begin to make sense.

#3.5 ccoffer on 2022-02-04 00:02 (Reply)

Norway bans breeding Cavalier King Charles Spaniels, bulldogs Wow! Eugenics for dogs!

#4 snopercod on 2022-02-03 09:47 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Johns Hopkins Analysis: ‘Lockdowns Should be Rejected Out of Hand’

The analysis is problematic as the authors exclude many relevant studies that contradict their findings. Compare New Zealand with the United Kingdom. The former locked down early and hard. The latter delayed their response. The COVID death rates per million are 11 and 2300, respectively. The U.S. had strong political resistance to social measures, so they ended up with the worst outcome; poor control of the pandemic and a high economic cost.

Of note, none of the authors are epidemiologists.

#5 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 09:51 (Reply)

Epidemiologist is not a magical gift for being right.

Of note, you're not anything. You post all sorts of "problematic" comments and "analyses" (that's generous for your tortured efforts to get meaning from things you don't understand) that are readily demonstrated to be wrong.

Why don't you just stop posting.

#5.1 DrTorch (Link) on 2022-02-03 10:31 (Reply)

DrTorch: Epidemiologist is not a magical gift for being right.

That's right. Even a patent clerk may have something to contribute.

DrTorch: You post all sorts of "problematic" comments and "analyses"

We noted that the review rejected a large number of studies that contradicted the authors' conclusion. You could address that. Or you could address the difference in outcomes in New Zealand and the United Kingdom.

#5.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 10:37 (Reply)

No, YOU noted that the authors weren't epidemiologists. You made it an issue, now you're pretending it's not. You just tried to weasel out of the fact that you made a fool of yourself again.

And I didn't address any issue you brought up. Mainly b/c this is another of your red-herring fallacies. My time has value so I don't waste it on those.

But you fail to address the valid points that I put forth in any rational, rigorous manner. Go do that. In the meantime, no one is interested in the ignorance you insist on spamming this board with.

#5.1.1.1 DrTorch (Link) on 2022-02-03 13:51 (Reply)

DrTorch: YOU noted that the authors weren't epidemiologists.

Yes. Non-experts in a field can be correct, but are more likely to make errors outside their field of expertise. Why do you think people rely on expert opinion? It's not because experts are always or necessarily right, but that experts in a given field are more likely to be right than non-experts. That's why you consult a physician rather than your pizza delivery person about your cough.

In this case, authors rejected studies for review that seemingly should have been included, so it is quite possible they let their preconceptions cloud their work, just as the right-wing echo chamber is propagating the claims of the paper without any skepticism because of their own preconceptions. It will take some time to properly evaluate the findings.

#5.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 14:40 (Reply)

Quibble-DickZ: A further evaluation will take some time.

Code for we know we lost the argument put forth be we won't admit it.

#5.1.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-02-03 14:53 (Reply)

You make those claims w/o being an "expert," so you're basing them on your own preconceptions. Doing exactly what you criticize. So typical.

Considering you have been reliably and consistently WRONG on everything you post, no one here should listen to you.

And you should really take your own constructive criticism and learn something instead of annoying us w/ your blather.

#5.1.1.1.1.2 DrTorch (Link) on 2022-02-03 16:28 (Reply)

DrTorch: You make those claims w/o being an "expert," so you're basing them on your own preconceptions.

We offered a substantive criticism. They seem to have cherry-picked the studies in the review, using only a few out of thousands. Nor does the review properly explain why some countries did so much better than others.

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 17:00 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Of note, none of the authors are epidemiologists.

So, what you are saying is that only murders should have a say on punishment for murder? Only a pediatrician should have a say on how to handle a crying baby? Have some more straw, scarecrow.

Of note: Every study you cite, has conflicting information, and rebuttal arrangements. However, you present them as the end all, of every study.

#5.2 B. Hammer on 2022-02-03 12:24 (Reply)

B. Hammer: So, what you are saying is that only murders should have a say on punishment for murder?

One can be an expert in criminology without being a criminal. In any case, we already addressed that point: Even a patent clerk may have something to contribute.

B. Hammer: Every study you cite, has conflicting information, and rebuttal arrangements.

Not at all. Any study might be wrong. Even every study might be wrong. Publication is just one step of the scientific process. But scientific investigation is more likely to lead to accurate understandings of nature than a flick of the wrist.

#5.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 12:49 (Reply)

So why did you make epidemiologists, of note, in your original post? You only started back tracking when Torch called you on it.

#5.2.1.1 B. Hammer on 2022-02-03 13:04 (Reply)

B. Hammer: So why did you make epidemiologists, of note, in your original post?

Because it would have behooved the authors to include an epidemiologist in their analysis. A further evaluation will take some time.

#5.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 13:45 (Reply)

Quibble-DickZ: Because it would have behooved the authors to include an epidemiologist in their analysis. A further evaluation will take some time.

Code: We know we know we lost the argument put forth so we decided to start with the hand waving.

#5.2.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-02-03 15:01 (Reply)

I posted on tyhat study and what the data actually says today at my site, and even said at the time that I didn't even want to look atg what foolishness people were concluding from it. And here they are, the predictable group unable to sort through statistics or asks themselves skeptical questions about their own POV, only make insulting, declarative statements about how stupid the Other Guys are. And of course, suggest that Zach stop posting altogether, because they are unable to answer coherently.

So you guys, fine, you are lunatics who believe a ridiculous amount of crap. I worked with paranoids my whole career, I know how they think and I know nothing with dent your belief. Let me call out some others here at Maggie's: I know plenty of you are sane and can make reasonable arguments because I have seen you do it. Why is no one else calling out the unreasonable? Do you agree with them? Not want to waste your time? Not willing to do your homework? I am not going to guess at your motives, because such things oft gang aglee. But I have to conclude that people don't care who shits in the center of the room at this point.

There are ridiculously obvious questions about this meta-analysis, which is not from Johns Hopkins medical - and they are all over kicking this to the curb today - but says things that people want to hear, even though the data says something different. Their own data says face masks, border closures, and closing bars and restaurants reduces mortality significantly. They use deceptive tricks to try and get to other conclusions.

So those who dare, read some opposing POVs at other sites that aren't on the round-pound team.

#5.3 Assistant Village Idiot on 2022-02-03 16:02 (Reply)

First of all: Who the heck are you to sit in judgments on what other points of view we expose ourselves to?

Second: I get it on how you laugh and mock those of us that have different ideas on loss of freedom; how we perceive our loss of freedom.

The time it would take to link to every single person that disagrees with lockdowns would be impossible. I would get spam alerts and blocked from posting. I have observed the character of those that have imposed the harshest lockdowns. I found a large percentage of those to be radical leftist hypocrites. I know what the end game of leftist is. History is full of examples. More paranoia, on my part, I’m sure.

More and more people come out every day disagreeing with lockdowns. Are the thousands of infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists, that signed the Barrington Declaration lunatics? Paranoids?

Is it really paranoia, when you watch government officials work with big tech and media, to stifle all debate on other forms of treatment? Doctors are threatened with the revocation of their licenses, for daring to practice medicine; using all available tools at their disposal. Maybe that is all in my paranoid mind. None of that has happened.

How about this guy: Why Was There No Warp Speed for Therapeutics? is he a lunatic?

I don’t want to live the rest of my life on lock down. To cower in fear with my mask on. Some day there will be a far more deadly virus, a virus that has a mortality rate higher than 1%. Maybe that is dishonest to point out the mortality rate? Questioning science, and those that represent science, is not lunacy or paranoia.

I remember you saying that you had lost three close friends to covid? I can’t blame you for being angry. Im sorry for your loss. I can’t begrudge you for having a far different point of view on all this covid business. But calling those of us paranoid, lunatics, because we don’t share your point of view, is simply not rational.

#5.3.1 B. Hammer on 2022-02-03 17:02 (Reply)

B. Hammer: Why Was There No Warp Speed for Therapeutics?

Therapeutics are hard. They are often not very effective, and frequently have significant side-effects. However, there has been a great deal of research into therapeutics for COVID.
https://www.nih.gov/research-training/medical-research-initiatives/activ/covid-19-therapeutics-prioritized-testing-clinical-trials

There's a very healthy market for therapeutics generally. For instance, a fortune is spent just to alleviate minor cold symptoms.

#5.3.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 17:44 (Reply)

Granny cures the common cold

#5.3.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 17:48 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Therapeutics are hard. They are often not very effective, and frequently have significant side-effects.

And vaccines are not hard? Vaccines don’t have side effects?

You just proved the whole point of the article: You rejected therapeutics out of hand.

Was the author lying where he made the claim that, “therapeutics have been a lifeblood of modern medicine, successfully treating such lethal diseases as AIDS and Hepatitis C.” Maybe you dispute that statement? I don’t know the answer. That was new information to me.

#5.3.1.1.2 B. Hammer on 2022-02-03 19:22 (Reply)

B. Hammer: And vaccines are not hard? Vaccines don’t have side effects?

Vaccines are relatively easy, especially nowadays. With mRNA technology, scientists created the COVID vaccine in just weeks. The rest of the delay was for completing phase 3 trials, required for emergency approval in the U.S.

Vaccines can certainly have side-effects, but the protein used in COVID vaccines to induce the immune reaction is the very same spike protein found on the surface of the virus. Any side-effects from the spike protein are much less likely from the vaccine than from the virus itself. That's because the virus not only invades the body with the spike protein, but multiples uncontrollably in cells causing widespread tissue damage. In other words, vaccination is almost certainly safer than naturally acquired immunity.

B. Hammer: You just proved the whole point of the article: You rejected therapeutics out of hand.

Indeed, not. We cited the ACTIV public-private partnership, which has accelerated the development of therapeutics. It's just that therapeutics are still more difficult to development than vaccines.

#5.3.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-04 08:26 (Reply)

So now we know that lockdowns did nothing to stop the spread of covid. AVI is shattered now and searching for a safe cry room.

#6 JustMe on 2022-02-03 10:26 (Reply)

JustMe: So now we know that lockdowns did nothing to stop the spread of covid.

This will not be the last pandemic, so it's important to know whether or not lockdowns are effective, and under what circumstances. However, the study has a number of problems which have to be addressed before taking it at face value.

#6.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 10:33 (Reply)

Quibble-DickZ: However, the study has a number of problems which have to be addressed before taking it at face value.

Code: We just can't admit we're wrong but we know, just know there are problems. Problems we don’t know about and problems we can't make up just yet.

#6.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-02-03 15:15 (Reply)

When constitutionalist politicians get back into office we need a reaffirmation of the constitution on this issue. We should NEVER be subjected to lockdowns ever again for any reason. IF there is a pandemic treat the sick, take care of the most susceptible, and increase staffing and assistance to the health care system so that it can both care for the pandemic patients and care for the non-pandemic patients.

The federal and state governments and the various governmental health organizations need a serious introspective investigation into how badly they mismanaged this pandemic and how they allowed politics to rule in place of science and medicine. The advice they gave to us over the entire two year period was wrong, contradictory and now we can see so clearly that it was politically motivated. People need to go to jail. They lied, people died.

#6.1.2 OneGuy on 2022-02-03 15:20 (Reply)

OneGuy: We should NEVER be subjected to lockdowns ever again for any reason.

You never did answer in the previous thread. If there were an outbreak of a highly dangerous disease, such as smallpox, are you saying the government couldn't justly force people who have been exposed into quarantine?

#6.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-03 15:24 (Reply)

The problem is that Covid was not and is not a dangerous disease if you are not old, obese, or have multiple co-morbidities. It is nothing at all like smallpox. My two healthy and active children, in their late teens, early twenties, were never in danger from Covid, either through contracting it or spreading to others. According to CDC data there have been a total of 2,301 Covid deaths (certainly almost all associated with multiple comorbidities) in the 15-24 age range, compared to 2,075 pnuemonia deaths in the same group, and just over 6000 motor vehicle deaths (2019 data). In the 65 and older group, there have been 654,306 Covid related deaths, with 201,292 in the 65-74 group alone. Yet, with the approval and encouragement of people like Zach and AVI, they had to go through lockdowns and other deprivations that have made the last two years miserable for them. Sure, isolate those who are at real risk from a disease, but don't throw out some blanket so-called solution like universal lockdowns that results in untold needless suffering.

#6.1.2.1.1 RJP on 2022-02-03 17:50 (Reply)

RJP: The problem is that Covid was not and is not a dangerous disease if you are not old, obese, or have multiple co-morbidities.

You didn't directly address the question. You seem to be saying that the government can take action when it is "reasonably required for the safety of the public," such as in an outbreak of a severe contagion like smallpox. Is that correct? (OneGuy was arguing that government should never has such powers.)

#6.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-04 08:31 (Reply)

The lockdowns did NOT force everyone with covid into quarantine. It was tyranny imposed on everyone regardless of health or infection. It was unconstitutional and congress should pass laws making it clear that it is not legal for any governor to ever lockdown citizens or private businesses again.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-02-04 13:55 (Reply)

OneGuy: The lockdowns did NOT force everyone with covid into quarantine.

It was community spread, so people were generally exposed. With smallpox, entire towns and communities were quarantined, even if a specific individual didn't have smallpox.

Notice how we answer your queries, but you never answered ours. If there were an outbreak of a highly dangerous disease, such as smallpox, are you saying the government couldn't justly force people who have been exposed into quarantine?

#6.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-02-04 14:41 (Reply)

I want a laugh room!

#6.2 TheCaptain on 2022-02-03 17:26 (Reply)

Me also!

#6.2.1 RL on 2022-02-03 18:47 (Reply)

I agree with Norway's action on the spaniels and bulldogs, and I think it should be extended to some other breeds, specifically all those with flat noses and super short legs. At least, there should be some regulation with teeth in it for breeding dogs for what are essentially painful birth defects.

#7 RebeccaH on 2022-02-03 11:58 (Reply)

I am watching the growing protests in Canada with great interest. It is difficult because the media seems to be ignoring the story.

I am reading that there is a call for all tradesmen in Canada (sheet metal workers, welders etc.) to join. Who would have thought that Solidarity! might be reborn in Canada?

One wonders if it will catch on here?

#8 feeblemind on 2022-02-03 12:51 (Reply)

And now more on "Public Safety" from the UK.
https://gellerreport/2022/02/uk-children-up-to-52-times-more-likely-to-die-following-a-covid-shot-report-html/

#9 indyjonesouthere on 2022-02-03 12:52 (Reply)

I loved Geller Report when it started out in the 00's. It's just paranoid now. This was shot down with data and reasoning - remember those? - before it even made it to the sky.

#9.1 Assistant Village Idiot on 2022-02-03 16:06 (Reply)

The data was based on the PCR test wasn't it. The PCR test that the inventor of the test said was not to be used for diagnostic purposes.

#9.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-02-03 18:29 (Reply)

on public health midwits...Matt Yglesias pretended to be another source for Russia, Russia, Russia. That he can't quite get covid, covid, covid right is no surprise.

#10 indyjonesouthere on 2022-02-03 13:04 (Reply)

"Schools Embrace BLM ‘Week of Action,’ Teach Students to ‘Disrupt Western Nuclear Family Dynamics’"

It's as if they've never asked any minorities what they think about what the lack of intact family structures can do to their children and neighborhoods.

#11 Dave on 2022-02-03 13:26 (Reply)

I like Ike ... Government funds the "right kind of science and science justifies "the right kind of government".
Western Rifle Shooters read of the day. It is the tyranny of the government "experts".

#12 indyjonesouthere on 2022-02-03 13:31 (Reply)

Fascinating...college students get trigger warnings and Cry Rooms but 8th graders are just suppose to suck it up buttercup.

#13 BobJustBob on 2022-02-03 17:13 (Reply)

There is trouble in the frozen North. It is just now coming out that their last election was like our fraught with cheating. Hundreds of thousands of ballots left uncounted for some reason!

This issue has been known but kept from the public but was recently leaked because there now appears to be a likely vote of confidence of the Canadian government with a subsequent election.

Also, the Trudeau government has been sneaking in the army into the parliament and other government buildings in the dark of night. It appears that Trudeau is going to "set up" the protestors for a Jan 6th style false flag attack. Pay attention Canadian Truckers and the other civilian protestors in Ottawa your government is going to attack you and say that you attacked them. Beware!

#14 Anon on 2022-02-03 17:57 (Reply)

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