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Monday, November 8. 2021Monday morning linksAre U.S. playgrounds too safe? Native American Lawsuit Challenges Colorado Ban On Native American “Mascots” As Discriminatory Climate Change Hysteria, circa 2004 NYT Urges Biden: 'Why Not' Force Americans to Pay Higher Gas Prices to Fight Climate Change? What the AMA says:
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A lot of people don't realize that the only people who aren't offended by the term "Redskins" are, well, Redskins.
Maniac: A lot of people don't realize that the only people who aren't offended by the term "Redskins" are, well, Redskins.
Actually, the stronger someone's Native American identity, the stronger they oppose mascots. For instance, 2/3 are offended by sports fans using the tomahawk chop. See Fryberg et al., Unpacking the Mascot Debate: Native American Identification Predicts Opposition to Native Mascots, PsyArXiv 2020. Actually, your post has nothing to do with the Redskins, you instead referred to an action by fans of the Braves and Seminoles.
Once again, your own words prove you wrong. DrTorch: Actually, your post has nothing to do with the Redskins, you instead referred to an action by fans of the Braves and Seminoles.
From the cited study (which you must have missed): QUOTE: The largest scientific study to date regarding Native Americans’ perceptions of Native mascots revealed that, overall, Natives opposed the Redskins team name in particular and the use of Native mascots in general. I didn't miss it. You didn't mention it. I don't waste my time with your dishonest/fallacious links. It's comically easy to show how you are consistently wrong without bothering.
But your study is hugely flawed, because it doesn't go back in time to gather the support for the name of generations of American Indians. Citing a flawed study is pointless. As are all of your assertions. If Native Americans are so upset at the the Redskins logo perhaps they could buy the team and change it.
Or they could just ignore this white liberal idea that they, Native Americans, are offended by a football team logo.
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Zachinoff
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2021-11-08 11:59
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DrTorch: I didn't miss it. You didn't mention it.
Indeed, we did. We summarized the findings, gave an example from the study, and then provided a direct citation to the paper. DrTorch: But your study is hugely flawed, because it doesn't go back in time to gather the support for the name of generations of American Indians. Maniac claimed that "the only people who aren't offended by the term "Redskins" are, well, Redskins." The findings of Fryberg et al. contradicts that claim. The citation was both relevant and probative.
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Zachriel
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2021-11-08 12:38
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Oh look, Zach cited a study! End of discussion.
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B. Hammer
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2021-11-08 12:45
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I once worked with, and became friends with an Apache who was very active in the tribe. For many years he marched with Russel Means, of the American Indian Movement (AIM), protesting Columbus Day. I asked him about the name Redskin, and naming things after Indian names, he didn’t have issues with it. Does his opinion count? I’ll bet he wasn’t interviewed in your cited study. I’ll bet politically connected tribal members were the majority cited; if cited at all. Politicians don’t always do what is best, or even what their constituents want - whatever their skin color. Mostly they are in it for selfish reasons.
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B. Hammer
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2021-11-08 12:46
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B. Hammer: Oh look, Zach cited a study! End of discussion.
Actually, it could represent the start of the discussion.
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Zachriel
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2021-11-08 14:10
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Please ignore this bozo, not Dr Torch, the other one, anytime I see a lot of comments you know this bag of wind is blowing. Maybe he gets paid by the blog entry.
Crossposted to Legal Insurection
William A. Jacobson: That when the government is involved in such name bans, it is discrimination against American Indians because it deprives them of the ability to have things named after them. The law allows schools to have things named after them, as long as there is an agreement between an Indian governing body and the school. QUOTE: Colo. Rev. Stat. § 22-1-133: The prohibition does not apply to: The ability of a tribe to create and maintain a relationship or agreement with a public school that fosters goodwill, emphasizes education and supports a curriculum that teaches American Indian history, and encourages a positive cultural exchange. Any such agreement may allow any mascot that is culturally affiliated with the tribe, as determined at the discretion of the tribe’s governing body. Halcyon Daze: The Cherokee Central School Braves on the Eastern Cherokee Reservation in North Carolina is cultural appropriation? QUOTE: Colo. Rev. Stat. § 22-1-133: The prohibition does not apply to: Any public school that is operated by a federally recognized Indian tribe JohnC: Did anyone actually ask Native Americans what they think? Yes, a “Governor’s Commission to Study American Indian Representations in Public Schools” was established to look at the issue, and tribal representatives worked on the final recommendations. Report recommends elimination of 'Indian' mascots in Colorado I live near Indian reservations and they ALL practice cultural appropriation. They drive cars, wear clothes, shop at supermarkets, etc. They need to stop that they are offending others.
Ugh: I live near Indian reservations and they ALL practice cultural appropriation.
Not all cultural exchange is inappropriate. On the other hand, dressing up as racial and ethnic stereotypes is usually not appropriate. Avoid redface. https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/20161120_ads_sb4_563_9985220x-e1550853928293.jpg Not all cultural exchange is inappropriate
Who gets to decide which "cultural exchange" is "appropriate" and which is not? Is that your job Zach? If so who appointed you? Once upon a time we had a first amendment right to express ourselves as we pleased. Now that right is being taken away lest some obscure crank is offended. We are losing much more than we are gaining. feeblemind: Who gets to decide which "cultural exchange" is "appropriate" and which is not?
People do. feeblemind: Once upon a time we had a first amendment right to express ourselves as we pleased. Now that right is being taken away lest some obscure crank is offended. No one is taking away your right to wear blackface, but it is also the right others to criticize or ostracize you if you do. "People do."
Yes. And water is wet. You got owned once again Zachriel. You always prove to be the fool. You prove inevitably that your leftist points are wrong. Z: People do. (decide what "cultural exchange" is "appropriate")
And which people are they? William Henry Dietz?
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mudbug
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2021-11-08 12:13
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mudbug: And which people are they?
Each person, as already stated. You have the right to wear blackface, but it is also the right others to criticize or ostracize you if you do.
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Zachriel
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2021-11-08 12:43
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“You have the right to wear blackflace…” while wearing a KKK costume, and if you have the proper political affiliation, you too can be elected Governor!
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B. Hammer
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2021-11-08 12:51
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You didn't answer my question. Which people get to decide which "cultural exchanges" are appropriate? Wouldn't William Henry Dietz have a say?
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mudbug
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2021-11-08 13:06
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mudbug: You didn't answer my question. Which people get to decide which "cultural exchanges" are appropriate?
We just did. If you think blackface is appropriate, then that is your position. Others can try to convince you otherwise, such as by an appeal to the racist history of blackface or how many people find it derogatory. Or you could go ahead and wear blackface and do your best Stepin Fetchit impression. But others have the right to criticize or ostracize you if you do. mudbug: Wouldn't William Henry Dietz have a say? Anyone can have a say. That's what freedom of speech means.
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Zachriel
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2021-11-08 14:16
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If you can't defend your position, then you should give up. The subject of black or red face is not pertinent to the question I asked (Which people can decide what "cultural exchange" is "appropriate?).
The name "Redskins" didn't offend William Henry Dietz who was the first coach of the Redskins and was an Indian, so it is clearly not inappropriate cultural exchange.
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mudbug
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2021-11-08 14:39
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mudbug: Which people can decide what "cultural exchange" is "appropriate?
We answered. You can decide for yourself. The owner of the Washington football team can decide for themselves. Each person can decide for themselves. mudbug: so it is clearly not inappropriate cultural exchange. The original claim was that only non-Indians thought it was inappropriate, and that wasn't true. The Washington football team can call themselves the Redskins if they choose. And people have the right to criticize them for it.
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Zachriel
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2021-11-08 15:41
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A big part of the supply chain problem is the Longshoreman's union has held the ports hostage for higher wages and more employees. Part of that involves preventing the dock owners from upgrading the equipment to unload container ships. It makes perfect sense. An automated dock unloading system can unload the largest container ship in 16 hours using less than 20 employees. While our antiquated system takes 4 times as long and uses well over 100 men. The unions have absolute power over the process and they have zero incentive to change anything.
A better way to solve this is to over the next 4 years implement requirements that consumer products be made in the USA with a goal of perhaps 90% or more of everything we buy being made locally. More jobs, independence from China. A win/win for us. Actually I really don't care about the west coast supply chain mess. It assures that Asian markets can't get product to the US which costs Asian business jobs and profits. As US investors leave Asia they will find it more beneficial to invest in the US, Central and South America. That is win, win for growth and stability in Central and South America.
re Climate Change Hysteria, circa 2004
Yes. I remember this. This was the first time I had been made aware that fighting global warming climate change was a priority for the armed forces. I was shocked and dismayed by that finding. This report was taken very seriously by the Left. According to the report we should be well into the apocalypse by now. And yet we are not. Again the lack of the ability for introspection surfaces. They never look at themselves and question what went wrong. They just push back the date for Doomsday and keep shrieking hysterically. And it's working for them. The inability of the public to remember these falsehoods frustrates and fascinates me. The scam continues and is causing serious damage to the world economy. re Native American Lawsuit Challenges Colorado Ban On Native American “Mascots” As Discriminatory
I wondered about this in 2020 when they were busy canceling Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima. Once upon a time this would have been considered discrimination as well, and yet no one brought that up. It will be interesting to see how this is resolved in court. “Broadcaster and former NFL great Terry Bradshaw ripped Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers Sunday, accusing the player of lying about his vaccine status.”
Terry needs to change his name to Karen. The problems with this rant is not only is he wrong, but he and the government is wrong on everything. Almost too many wrongs to list: Rodgers tested positive so according to Karen Bradshaw he is the bad guy because he didn’t get vaccinated. BUT it is likely that Rodgers got the covid from a vaccinated person. Hmmmm!! Rodgers choose his health care treatment as is his right Karen Bradshaw wants to mandate HIS version of health care on Rodgers WTF! What if I demanded that Karen Bradshaw could never take a drink again or stay up after 10PM? The claim that Karen Bradshaw makes is the Vax would have protected Rodgers from the covid and thus protected others. Well, duh! We know that is false. Right this minute we are in the pandemic of the vaccinated. Karen Bradshaw says and implies that Rodgers puts others at risk and should be singled out for punishment. But the truth is that everyone falls into that category because the Vax doesn’t prevent break through infection and the Vax doesn’t prevent a person with a break through infection from infecting others. Additionally the mask doesn’t protect oneself or others from infection it is merely a visible way to demonstrate how much better you are than others and how submissive you are. Karen Bradshaw is the epitome of stupid Karen rage over all the wrong things. He should have just shut his pie hole and minded his own business. Good on Aaron Rogers. He posed a few questions that the perpetual lock-down crowd refuse to honestly answer.
With Gas Prices Soaring, Biden May Close Another Pipeline
QUOTE: News that the administration "was quietly studying the potential market impact of killing" Enbridge’s Line 5, which transports 540,000 barrels per day of light crude oil and natural gas liquids from Superior, Wisconsin, to Sarnia, Ontario, which is then refined into propane, was first reported by Politico . . . The pipeline’s closing has long been championed by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer over the potential for an oil spill. She’s called the 4.5-mile stretch in the Great Lakes a “ticking time bomb.” In May, the Democrat ordered Enbridge to close the pipeline, making the issue an international problem between Canada and the U.S. after Enbridge refused. According to international legal experts, the U.S. is legally bound to keep the pipeline operational due to the 1977 Transit Pipelines Treaty between the U.S. and Canada. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2021/11/08/with-gas-prices-soaring-biden-looking-to-close-another-pipeline-n2598729 These 19 states want to make Daylight saving time year-round.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/11/04/daylight-saving-time-legislation-fall-back/6233980001/ What the AMA says, tl;dr version: "Western Civilization was a huge mistake."
The AMA wouldn’t exist without said Western Civilization
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