A few Thursday morning links

It would be hilarious if the government decided to only regulate "social media companies more than 1 billion users" ALA how the government will sometimes write laws that only apply to Walmart.

#1.1 OldCurmudgeon on 2021-11-04 09:40 (Reply)

Critical race theory was addressed a long time ago by Jesus Christ's teaching of "Love thy neighbor as thyself." and Martin Luther King's "I have a dream..." speech.

#2 Zachinoff on 2021-11-04 09:57 (Reply)

QUOTE:

What Have We Learned? The 'White Supremacy' Bit Is Hack

Jefferson Davis could only dream of such a moment.

#3 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 10:26 (Reply)

Jefferson Davis wanted to see FBI agents wave Confederate flags in the Capitol Building?

#3.1 mudbug on 2021-11-04 10:43 (Reply)

mudbug: Jefferson Davis wanted to see FBI agents wave Confederate flags in the Capitol Building?

The person holding waving the Confederate flag is Kevin Seefried. Seefried and his son are both charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. He is free on personal recognizance bond awaiting trial.

#3.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 11:12 (Reply)

Well, that's an interesting coincidence considering the number of J6 protesters in pre-trial detention without bail.

And here's a guy who is not only not being detained but who hasn't even been arrested or facing charges, despite being in the thick of the J6 action

#3.1.1.1 Christopher B on 2021-11-04 11:38 (Reply)

Christopher B: Well, that's an interesting coincidence considering the number of J6 protesters in pre-trial detention without bail.

About 700 people have been charged in the Capitol riot, about 100 have entered guilty pleas, about 90% of the remainder have been released pending trial. All have been given pretrial release hearings before the courts, and they appeal any such opinion.

Christopher B: And here's a guy who is not only not being detained but who hasn't even been arrested or facing charges, despite being in the thick of the J6 action

What charges should he face? Your link doesn't provide evidence that Epps directly attacked the police line, much less that he is an FBI agent. Instigation is a very difficult charge to prove. The investigation continues, so he may yet be charged.

#3.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 12:00 (Reply)

I wonder how far you will go defending the Garland Gulag's and the KGB/FBI actions. Do you ever go home and think about getting an honest job???

I hope when this terrible era of crazy Brandon is over that the new president and congress investigate the DOJ and FBI and put some of them in jail for this terrible unconstitutional travesty.

#3.1.1.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2021-11-04 12:16 (Reply)

OneGuy: I wonder how far you will go defending the Garland Gulag's and the KGB/FBI actions.

What "gulag"? What KGB actions? Be specific.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 12:27 (Reply)

Does solitary confinement and imprisonment without bail seem to be the proper treatment for someone who is charged with trespassing? How about for people who still haven't been charged?

The irony is pretty thick since you have Democrats in several big cities eliminating cash bail for even felonies.

Why aren't people allowed to talk to the prisoners or inspect the conditions at the prisons even after a judge finds jail officials in contempt for abuses (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/furious-judge-finds-jail-officials-in-contempt-for-abuse-of-jan-6-prisoners/ar-AAPtQjB)?

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2021-11-04 12:42 (Reply)

mudbug: Does solitary confinement and imprisonment without bail seem to be the proper treatment for someone who is charged with trespassing? How about for people who still haven't been charged?

We asked for specifics.

mudbug: Why aren't people allowed to talk to the prisoners or inspect the conditions at the prisons

It turns out that prisons have rules. Who knew?!

mudbug: even after a judge finds jail officials in contempt for abuses

Welcome to jail in America! It's amazing how the world changes after generations of minorities have complained of mistreatment and poor medical care in jails and prisons around the country. If someone is not getting proper medical treatment, then the jail should be held to account. Now make sure you extend that courtesy to the millions of other prisoners held in U.S. jails and prisons. Worrell's claims have been disputed, by the way.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/christopher-worrell-dc-jail-mistreatment-claims-1249334/

Meanwhile, “They’re running a jail, not a hotel,” Judge Emmitt Sullivan said in a hearing on Wednesday. “Some people want hotel services.”

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 13:56 (Reply)

In fairness, Judge Jackson will release you if you write a letter renouncing Mr. Trump.

#3.1.1.1.2 OldCurmudgeon on 2021-11-04 13:05 (Reply)

Irrelevant.

You can't make a legitimate point to any discussion.

#3.2 DrTorch (Link) on 2021-11-04 11:59 (Reply)

DrTorch: You can't make a legitimate point to any discussion.

The Confederate battle flag has long been associated with white supremacy, especially by people of color, so it is directly relevant.

#3.2.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 12:02 (Reply)

The Confederate battle flag has long been associated with white supremacy by the Marxist academy. You really must remember your Gramsci and Marcuse.

#3.2.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2021-11-04 14:48 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: The Confederate battle flag has long been associated with white supremacy by the Marxist academy.

The Confederate battle flag has long been associated with white supremacy . . . in fact.
https://theroanoketribune.org/the-confederate-battle-flag-is-a-symbol-of-resistance/

#3.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 15:42 (Reply)

This from the guy that doesn't even understand the 3/5 compromise.

#3.2.1.2 B. Hammer on 2021-11-04 15:51 (Reply)

B. Hammer: This from the guy that doesn't even understand the 3/5 compromise.

We provided support for our position — which you ignored. Are you really claiming that the Confederate battle flag has not been associated with white supremacy? Or are you just throwing chaff?

#3.2.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 16:42 (Reply)

You offered one guys opinion. I could throw up a whole bunch of links from lefty loons that say the American flag is a symbol of white supremacy. To the British, the Betsy Ross flag was a symbol of resistance. One could argue that the Rainbow flag is a symbol of resistance and even bigotry. Every item under the sun could be used as a symbol of something. I've seen black people waving the stars and bars. Are they racist or simply offering up resistance against authoritarianism?

One of the major problems with the ideology that you so steadfastly defend, is the wide brush that you try and paint people with. Your ideology is all about division; keeping people at each other. Your ideology refuses to let scabs heal. You have to keep the wounds festering. Frankly, it is evil. I hope that more and more people wake up to the strategy. Just because someone had a bigot in their family tree, does not mean they are bigots.

Am I throwing chaff? You bet. It is what you do all the time.

#3.2.1.2.1.1 B. Hammer on 2021-11-04 17:16 (Reply)

B . Hammer: You offered one guys opinion.

We offered an historical analysis showing the relationship between white supremacy and the Confederate battle flag. Ignoring it is not an argument against it. For instance, Alabama put the Confederate battle flag on its capitol as a symbol of resistance to integration in 1963. The prominence of Whites flying the Confederate battle flag closely parallels opposition to racial equality.

#3.2.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 22:32 (Reply)

As usual the KiddieZ get to decide what is and isn't relevant.

#3.2.2 Zachinoff on 2021-11-04 14:26 (Reply)

Toxic Positivity Men: Don't ever make the mistake of offering suggestions to a woman. She just wants you to listen to her problem. See: Men are from Mars - Women are from Venus

#4 snopercod on 2021-11-04 10:35 (Reply)

"Tens of millions of Americans who work at companies with 100 or more employees will need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Jan. 4 or get tested for the virus weekly under government rules that took effect Thursday.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration said companies that fail to comply could face penalties of nearly $14,000 per violation."

That seems quite excessive to me. But I think this sets a precedent for fines and we should apply the exact same fine to any employer who hires a person here illegally.

#5 OneGuy on 2021-11-04 11:05 (Reply)

I got the vaccine as soon as I was eligible and have gotten the booster shot a few weeks ago. I am not anti-vax. But I do agree that this vaccine is less than effective, should not be mandated and that our government is lying to us about almost everything Covid related. Here is a good article that sums up a lot of this; https://survivalblog.com/2021/11/04/covid-authoritarians-cause-americas-problems-not-unvaccinated-brandon-smith-thur-nov-4/ it's a good read.

#6 MeToo on 2021-11-04 11:18 (Reply)

MeToo: Here is a good article that sums up a lot of this; https://survivalblog.com/2021/11/04/covid-authoritarians-cause-americas-problems-not-unvaccinated-brandon-smith-thur-nov-4/ it's a good read.

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They claimed that the only pandemic still ongoing was a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”, and this was of course a lie as we have seen studies from multiple states and mostly vaccinated countries showing that the vaccinated now make up the bulk of infections and hospitalizations.

Those who are vaccinated have a much lower probability of infection and of severe side effects if they do become infected. If you look at vaccination rates by county, counties with lower vaccination rates have higher hospitalization rates.

QUOTE:

They said the vaccines offered more reliable protection when compared to natural immunity, yet medical studies from around the world show that this was a lie and that natural immunity offers up to 27 times more protection than the vaccines do.

Newer, larger studies have found otherwise.

Those who only have natural immunity have a 5-fold greater chance of infection than those who have been vaccinated but not previously infected. See Bozio et al., Laboratory-Confirmed COVID-19 Among Adults Hospitalized with COVID-19–Like Illness with Infection-Induced or mRNA Vaccine-Induced SARS-CoV-2 Immunity, MMWR, October 2021.

As the link makes clear, those who have been vaccinated after infection have even better protection. Those who only have natural immunity have a 2-fold greater chance of infection than those who have natural immunity and have also been vaccinated. See Cavanaugh et al., Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination, MMWR, August 2021.

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if their true intention was to “protect public health” then the establishment would be promoting treatment programs and natural immunity, not untested vaccines that continue to disappoint.

COVID kills people, so encouraging infection is inane, especially when a vaccine is available that can reduce the risk.

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We have seen similar results in states like Massachusetts, where there were 5100 breakthrough cases in a single month and 80 deaths of fully vaccinated people, which is a 1.5% death rate for the vaxxed as opposed to 0.27% for the unvaxxed.

You have to adjust for age. Older people are more likely to be vaccinated and more likely to die.

The rest of the article contains similar misstatements or out of context data.

#6.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 12:19 (Reply)

The KIDDIEZ comments are filled with many distortions and out of context statements but they won't admit to it.

#6.1.1 Zachinoff on 2021-11-04 15:05 (Reply)

then be a part of the resistance. when asked to show proof refuse . if you are refused service (that of course you would be paying for) leave. Do Not cooperation with the Segregation of Global Society.

#6.2 jpac on 2021-11-04 16:19 (Reply)

James Carville gets it but he's yesterday's Democrat.

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“What went wrong?” Newshour host Judy Woodruff asked Carville.

“What went wrong was this stupid wokeness,” said Carville. “Don’t just look at Virginia and New Jersey. Look at Long Island, look at Buffalo, look at Minneapolis, even look at Seattle, Washington. I mean, this defund the police lunacy, this ‘take Abraham Lincoln’s name off schools, people see that.”

Carville said the woke left has had a “suppressive effect” for Democrats in races across the country.

“Some of these people need to go to a woke detox center or something,” he continued. “They’re expressing language people just don’t use and there’s a backlash and a frustration at that. Suburbanites in northern Virginia [and] New Jersey, you know, pulled away a little bit. Youngkin never ran any ads against Biden.”

He said Youngkin “just let the Democrats pull the pin and watch the grenade go off on them. And we’ve got to change this and not be about changing dictionaries, and change laws. And these faculty lounge people that sit around mulling about I don’t know what, they’re not working. Look what happened in Buffalo, again, Seattle, I think the Republicans may have won a city attorney’s race in Seattle, the autonomous zone. Who could even think of something that stupid?”

. . . we’ve got to change this internally, in my view.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/james-carville-shreds-stupid-wokeness-after-election-losses-these-people-need-to-go-to-a-woke-detox-center/

#7 feeblemind on 2021-11-04 11:22 (Reply)

Does it matter?

Main Steele Dossier Researcher Arrested in Durham Probe

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/main-steele-dossier-researcher-arrested-in-durham-probe/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=breaking&utm_campaign=newstrack&utm_term=25579417

#8 feeblemind on 2021-11-04 13:45 (Reply)

Is this why the vaxx is killing so many people. https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

#9 indyjonesouthere on 2021-11-04 14:39 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Is this why the vaxx is killing so many people. https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

Paul D Thacker, author of the linked story: “people are going to use this to push a political position because that’s what they’re interested in.”
https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-carolina-news/fact-check-report-questioning-pfizer-trial-shouldnt-undermine-confidence-in-vaccines/

#9.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 15:31 (Reply)

I'm waiting for the investigation...even if Durham has to do it. Authoritarians don't need no stinking investigation.

#9.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2021-11-04 16:03 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: I'm waiting for the investigation...

Huh? Investigate what? Possible poor quality control in one lab of many?

#9.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 16:40 (Reply)

There those who believe this was simply an accidental and unfortunate release of a virus from a lab. Are there are others who see too many red flags that seem to be saying that China was in fact creating a bio-weapon and in fact released it on purpose. This is in fact the second release of a virus that was intentionally through gain of function designed to kill people indiscriminately. There is additional evidence that China has a much more deadly virus that kills 80% of the people who become infected by it. Are they planning on releasing that virus too? Are they working to develop a vaccine for that virus before releasing it? Would they do this? Will you bet your life on your answer?

#9.1.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2021-11-04 19:23 (Reply)

OneGuy: There those who believe this was simply an accidental and unfortunate release of a virus from a lab.

The topic concerned a lab testing the vaccine.

The genetic evidence argues against an engineered virus as the cause of COVID-19. The evolution of the virus during the epidemic shows how quickly a virus can naturally mutate to become more transmissible.

#9.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-04 22:37 (Reply)

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As the scientists said the hope is that this insight will help humanity develop a better understanding of how the virus causes so much damage to the heart and blood vessels.

"Our research could help find targets for a drug that will be used to stop the virus’s activity, or at least minimize damage to blood vessels."

But, what if it instead raises questions about the vaccines scientists have developed, which rely on viral RNA to "reprogram" the human immune system?

https://tinyurl.com/2xm7htre

#10 Zachinoff on 2021-11-04 17:34 (Reply)

The trolls are out in force today. Meanwhile, in answer to the question, " When are we going to stop doing this? When there's a third black mayor? A fifth? A tenth? Never?" Not until the former slave becomes the new master.

#11 Steve on 2021-11-05 08:14 (Reply)

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Thursday, November 4. 2021

A few Thursday morning links