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Woman Not Allowed To Board Flight
I seem to recall the last time this sort of thing was a controversy in the news, it turned out that the passengers-denied-boarding were non-revenue (employee family pass) passengers --

The statement from that airline at that time was "“We care about the way we present ourselves to you, our customers, as we believe that is part of the experience on board our flights . . . When taking advantage of this benefit, all employees and pass riders are considered representatives of the airline, and like most companies, we have a dress code that we ask employees and pass riders to follow.""

Personally, I don't understand why the gate agent would want the aggro resulting from denying boarding to a customer, but when the news is giving me one-side of the story with intent to make me incensed about sexism in dress codes, I begin to think the 24h rule should be applied. If there isn't a statement from the other side, with long enough lead time for them to actually look into it and understand what their own employees observations and motivations were, then experience tells me that half of what we are being told about the situation might be fictional.

#1 Douglas2 on 2020-10-12 09:14 (Reply)

I thought that the top that the lady showed was indeed too revealing. I suppose I don't mind when women wear revealing clothes but women do. I suspect that the person at the gate was a woman who disliked the blatant lurid sexuality of her outfit. There is a place for this kind of clothing intended to seek propositions but it isn't on airplanes or work place. Save it for the bars and clubs where everyone goes to be seduced or to seduce. But in the general public dress like you had more than two brain cells.

#1.1 Anon on 2020-10-12 11:05 (Reply)

I accidentally deleted my post early on, but you basically said what I had written. She looks like she is dressing for a one night stand whith a guy she met at a bar.

#1.1.1 JC on 2020-10-12 12:12 (Reply)

For what it's worth, my first thought on this was to wonder about the gate agent. Although the two links to the story I found didn't say anything about the gate agent, I have to wonder how tastefully dressed the gate agent was. Specifically, was the gate agent by any chance wearing a nice tasteful hijab?

#1.1.1.1 Jerryskids on 2020-10-12 14:18 (Reply)

About halfway down on the HotAir article page there is a video that shows some of the interaction.

No Hijab, and I suspect the high-neck top and blazer are an airline uniform.

#1.1.1.1.1 Douglas2 on 2020-10-12 15:04 (Reply)

a woman, no, make that anyone of either gender, who is wearing something that reveling in public is NOT someone I want to sit next to on a flight.

And, given her description of what took place I suspect it was a set up - in other words she expected some sort of trouble and that is partly why she dressed that way.

#1.2 charles on 2020-10-12 20:58 (Reply)

404 now — Google can’t find page.

#1.3 ErisGuy on 2020-10-14 01:46 (Reply)

WHO Backflips, Comes Out Against Lockdowns

True, but misrepresented:

Almost every article about this is includes a picture of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus the director-general of the WHO, but the person making the statement is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nabarro, a "special envoy" of the DG, who was answering a question from the British journalist Andrew Neal who has the knack of phrasing questions to get the truth from people.

I've not seen any change in the direction officially posted by the WHO in any WHO guidance, so we can infer that they all know this to be the case (lockdown is damaging) but aren't willing to make it policy -- otherwise this would show up in policy and guidance documents.

BTW Andrew Neil is launching a new UK television news channel, having resigned from the BBC, and I suspect we will be seeing a lot more of him now that he is unfettered.

#2 Douglas2 on 2020-10-12 10:02 (Reply)

Early voting is about to start now in Texas, as it has elsewhere. It's going to be interesting seeing what the traffic looks like, due to the combination of expanded early voting periods, panic over the chaos from poorly run mail-in ballot fraud programs (which we're seeing the fruits of, already), and of course the old COVID booga-booga. Virginia has already had nearly a million people cast votes:

"A large portion of ballots will already have been cast in Virginia by the time Election Day rolls around next month, after a record turnout for early voting that has featured long lines outside some polling stations and mail-in ballots coming in by the thousands per day.

So far, nearly 887,000 Virginians have voted in person, by mail or by hand-delivering their ballots to a registrar’s office or drop box — the menu of options available to voters worried about going to potentially crowded polling stations on Nov. 3 and risking exposure to the novel coronavirus."

Like Douglas2 above, I've almost completely closed the media blinds. Having the media almost completely in their pocket has made the Democrats lazy and insultingly complacent while motivating me to get to the bottom of issues. Instead now I evaluate what politicians actually do against what they say.

#3 Aggie on 2020-10-12 10:06 (Reply)

By what I'm seeing from friends locally, here in GA the lines are LONG. Even with Covid - long lines?

And when you can't even get Biden supporters to come out for a rally, it's hard to believe they're all Biden voters just champing at the bit to vote for their guy...

#3.1 JLawson on 2020-10-12 11:46 (Reply)

Re: We’re better off under Trump than before, so where’s the momentum?: Goodwin

QUOTE:

Given that pattern, it’s significant that Trump is not getting the political benefit of the broad satisfaction Gallup found. My conclusion is that Biden and the media have succeeded in making the campaign a referendum on Trump, especially his personality and handling of the coronavirus, while the president and his team have failed to make the election a choice between his policies and Biden’s.

Every time a president runs for re-election, it is in large part a referendum on him.

Goodwin worries about the polls but we already have the 2016 experience with how wrong the polls can be (or maybe how corrupt the pollsters can be).

#4 mudbug on 2020-10-12 10:40 (Reply)

Meet Sarah Iannarone, Portland’s Next Mayor: Killing Portland.
A democrat mayor is one thing, but She is misery on wheels.

When Trump hatred infects even your favorite food magazines; Not the two I get.

The latest revelations show Team Obama invented the whole RussiaGate scandal: Nooooooooooooooooooo, Really?????
It's been obvious since 2015.

#5 Sam L. on 2020-10-12 11:04 (Reply)

Re: Southwest Airlines

"They’ve already asked workers to take pay cuts, but the unions are balking at that idea."

This article is straight pro-union propaganda. What journalist would defend a union for being stubborn and uncooperative? It's for this very reason that so many factories have left the country. Who wants to argue with a bunch of thugs? They're dangerous, and they have lots of money to hire press agents who will write articles defending the abominable behavior of union members. Death threats, slashed tires, and even real violence.

America needs to get rid of every single union. The taxpayers don't owe those people a penny.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HV_R-dv5GXSKIaf-cdb8c2v6Uw0HAHqV/view?usp=sharing

#6 Ron Liebermann on 2020-10-12 11:21 (Reply)

Who, in Pennsylvania, will be deceived by Biden's reassurances re: fracking. PA must look shaky to take that step. For anyone interested there is a YouTube show called, "What Are the Odds" on the People's Pundit channel. They are doing the current breakdown of PA today.

#7 Exasperated (Link) on 2020-10-12 11:47 (Reply)

The world in 1492 was very different from today's world or today's mores. A close examination of what Columbus did from the standpoint of today's beliefs would indeed make Columbus look bad. That in a nutshell is the complaint against Columbus. He represented a monarch and he conquered lands that were inhabited by people who could not realistically defend themselves against a more advanced civilization. But this was in fact the way the world operated throughout it's entire history and ironically in 1492 every 'indigenous' person in North and South America did the exact same thing to previous indigenous people.

It is also worth noting, since a large part of the intent in disparaging Columbus is in fact to disparage the U.S., that the ONLY reason the world does not still operate the same way today is because of the U.S. That is their military power and their belief in human rights. If the U.S. were to suddenly lose super power status China, Russia, Islam and a handful of other nations would immediately attack neighboring countries and kill their populations. This simple truth is the largest irony in the effort to disparage Columbus AND the U.S.

#8 OneGuy on 2020-10-12 12:15 (Reply)

A quick re cap on Columbus; the Caribe tribe were cannibals, a way for humans to get sufficient protein in a protein poor environment. The Caribe's neighbors did not like them. Columbus under direction of the priests could not let cannibalism continue, but the tribe needed another source of food. So after suppressing the resistance, the remaining cannibals were moved to Missions to fill their bellies and save their souls. Various diseases soon followed.

#9 SF jeff on 2020-10-12 12:15 (Reply)

San Fran Dems Gave Addicts Drugs to Protect Them From COVID

Trump could put an end to this overnight. All he needs to do is praise the program and it will be immediately canceled.

Look at how simple it was to get democrat governors to eliminate hydroxychloroquine as a treatment option for their constituents.

What if Trump praised coffee?

#10 Old Dude on 2020-10-12 12:25 (Reply)

A word from Michael Flynn Jr. (the son of General Michael Flynn): If we can take it, so can you.

uncoverdc.com/2020/10/11/if-my-family-can-so-can-yours/

#11 Aggie on 2020-10-12 13:16 (Reply)

"lockdowns are not the answer".

Well, I agree, but...

Masks and 6' of social distancing is not the answer. It doesn't work. It is part wishful thinking and part looking like you are trying to fix the problem.

Lockdowns/quarantine does (kinda) work. If Gov Cuomo had locked down the nursing homes then New York's death toll would be much less than it is today. But the long term result of lockdowns is that it lowers the curve which really means it drags out the inevitable for months and months. It probably won't change the end statistics much because this is a very communicable disease. Eventually this disease will run it's course, it may kill 400,000 Americans or it may kill a million Americans. In the end a lockdown will make little difference in the statistics but may make some difference on an individual level. That is if your 90 YO grandmother locks herself down until after this disease runs it's course then she may survive it. So to that extent lockdowns do work. But for the 99.5% of Americans who will not die from this disease but will be ruined by a 12 month lockdown, lockdowns are a disaster.

#12 Anon on 2020-10-12 13:26 (Reply)

Lest there is any confusion, the point of the WHO chap saying "stop the lockdowns" is not about their effectiveness at reducing covid where the lockdown takes place, but about a balance in outcomes between there and the knock-on economic effects that those lockdowns have in the third world.

It's a balance between deaths here vs many times that number of deaths from starvation and preventable disease in places that have no social safety net.

I've annoyed people in many comments sections about this since March -- they accused me of wanting to kill nana, I pointed out that they didn't care how many brown people they killed as long as they protected nana.

For some reason this was not a popular message to the lockdown proponents. Yes, the economic contraction and cancelled orders would have happened anyway, but not to the same extent and over a longer span of time, giving those most affected "at the bottom" more and better options than the inevitable fallback of prostitution or starvation.

#12.1 Douglas2 on 2020-10-12 13:59 (Reply)

Nana here - why don't the powers that be ask me? I am seriously NOT happy about the lockdowns and am increasingly convinced they are doing more harm than good. I'm willing to assume some risk of catching this durn virus if that is what is needed to ensure decent future for our children and grandchildren (and - by extension - their friends and communities).

That being said, there has to be a lot more done to protect the most vulnerable in our communities. It's obviously not that easy to do - except for the obvious things such as NOT forcing nursing homes and long term care facilities to accept residents (new or returning) who have obvious infections. But surely something can be figured out without forcing all the residents of these facilities into what is effectively solitary confinement without even a mandated hour a day outside the room.

#12.1.1 Frances on 2020-10-12 19:43 (Reply)

Indeed. Too much of what has been mandated in various jurisdictions is not only politicians logic or underpants gnomes logic , but actually counterproductive.

QUOTE:

Phase 1: Make a policy.

Phase 2: ?

Phase 3: society benefits.

No-one seems to be putting much thought into whether the proposed intervention will actually lead to the desired outcome. As we now know that severity of coronavirus symptoms is strongly correlated with deficiency in vitamin-D levels, for example, shutting people indoors ensures that case outcomes are worse.

#12.1.1.1 Douglas2 on 2020-10-12 23:23 (Reply)

The Partisan Split on Coronavirus Is Extraordinary

It has been true for a while that political alignment has less to do with traditional factors like regional economic interests and more to do with personality types. Reactions to the Wuhan virus offer a stark instance of this reality.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/the-partisan-split-on-coronavirus-is-extraordinary.php

#13 feeblemind on 2020-10-12 13:34 (Reply)

I don't know if it is a personality type that accounts for the differences in the survey. It seems to me young people vote democrat, watch the mainstream media, believe their government tells the truth. So when watching the msm it is their wonderful government telling them the absolute truth. Tell the indoctrinated that Covid is not the Zombie Apocalypse and they'll shrug and put the mask on a 2 year old.

#13.1 annieoakley on 2020-10-12 21:24 (Reply)

It seems that there is so much more to the shooting in Denver than we were told. Apparently three people conspired to make news for the local TV station. The producer, the shooter and the aggressive person who was trying to get some of the pro-police group to fight. Before the shooting the three had a pow wow and then Mr. agitator began instigating a fight while mister shooter stayed close to him but just out of camera range apparently waiting to step in when the fight began and mister TV producer stayed off to the side filming. I believe that the intent was simply to get some blood and gore for the 6 o'clock news and with any luck be able to smear the pro-police guys. But mister shooter overstepped and stepped into the part that mister agitator was supposed to play and began agitating the pro-police guys. When one of the pro-police guys objected mister shooter became 'pushy' and that is when the man who was shot maced him. The shooter already had his gun out threatening the pro-police group when he was maced and he immediately shot the man killing him.

Looks to me like a conspiracy by the local news channel that got out of hand because their armed guard was trigger happy.

#14 OneGuy on 2020-10-12 21:05 (Reply)

I went looking because this was way ahead of what I'd been reading, and I think your source may be the person on twitter with the current handle "L" and motto "Cite your sources or GTFO" (including that motto not intended as a criticism!).

I'd caution that there is a lot of conjecture - I think the narrated timeline of who did what when is likely, but not proven. And I don't think we can surmise the pre-existing relationships or plans from what we see.

It was a huge task to find, catalog, and synchronize not only many videos taken by different people but also most of the available still photographs from the Denver Post photog. Having the incredibly high-res closeup photos synchronized with the sound is amazing.

And I'm super glad that someone is doing it, as in the current environment I'm not all that confident in how much investigative effort that a big-city DA is going to put into building a grand jury case against a shooter who is a documented 'Occupy' organizer. I've seen a gazillion people on the left linking to a Sean King video attempting to build a self-defense case for the shooter but putting the photos in an out of sequence time-order.

So many attendees were smart to video-record their whole time in the area, so I suspect that we may find that there are even more videos that either fill-out the story or reveal unanticipated changes to what we think we know.

I think all people of good will should be praying for the peace and safety of the victim's family, as comments on social media have been quite aggressive and vile towards them.

#14.1 Skeptic on 2020-10-12 22:57 (Reply)

On Tucker Carlson last night. He interviewed one of the organizers of the pro-police rally. This person was quite close to the event and personally saw the three people I cited as conspiring actually 'conspiring'. It appears that all of the acts; the one guy who was trying to start a fight, the hired gun and the news producer, conspired to create a situation that would be suitable for the evening news. During the interview there was some video shown that supported this.

Elsewhere, on the internet, was a video where the news producer can be seen signaling the other two conspirators to go ahead with their street drama because he was apparently now ready to video it.

#15 OneGuy on 2020-10-13 12:53 (Reply)

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