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Monday, September 21. 2020

Lockdown Skeptics

A longish but not too technical read: Lies, Damned Lies and Health Statistics – the Deadly Danger of False Positives


Final quote:



 I wish to note that in the last 40 years alone the UK has had seven official epidemics/pandemics; AIDS, Swine flu, CJD, SARS, MERS, Bird flu as well as annual, seasonal flu. All were very worrying but schools remained open and the NHS treated everybody and most of the population were unaffected. The country would rarely have been open if it had been shut down every time.


I have explained how a hopelessly-performing diagnostic test has been, and continues to be used, not for diagnosis of disease but, it seems, solely to create fear.


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The problem with the tests for Covid-19 is that they are more often wrong than they are right. About 50% false positive and 10% false negative. This is true for ALL the tests. It is true in every country including those countries who think they have "beat" covid-19. The truth is they don't know. No one knows what the end result of this disease is or will be. Back in March the idea that 5000 Americans would die seemed impossible. In May the idea that 100,000 would die seemed impossible. Now having passed 200,000 dead does anyone doubt we will pass 300,000 dead?

This will happen. It will happen with or without the tests. It will happen with or without mask mandates or restaurant closures or other lockdowns. The only question is will we destroy our economy in the vain attempt to stop the unstopable?
#1 Anon on 2020-09-21 17:49 (Reply)
We only know that the deaths were classified as due to covid-19, we do not know if, in fact, they were due to covid-19.
#1.1 Mike on 2020-09-21 18:19 (Reply)
That is true. We also know of many cases where covid19 deaths were not classified as covid-19 deaths. So it is quite likely that the death rate is much higher than we know today.

But ask yourself why? During the H1N1 pandemic did the media and black ops spread the meme that many of the deaths caused by H1N1 were NOT caused by H1N1? So ask why that meme is so persistent today. What are they trying to hide by spreading misinformation. Why is it important to both scare us and claim that all those deaths were not caused by covid-19. Who benefits?
#1.1.1 Anon on 2020-09-21 19:25 (Reply)
Anon - "Why is it important to both scare us and claim that all those deaths were not caused by covid-19. Who benefits?"

1) Fear moves the herd.
2) The money is in the (liability-free) vaccine(s).
3) We need to cull the anti-vaxxers from the gen. pop.
via travel and employment restrictions, and to get them off to the camps so we can get the party started.

QED
#2 B on 2020-09-21 19:58 (Reply)
My daughter is recovering. We hope. Her heart rate still swings between 40 and 140; over 160 with any activity. Hopefully, that is temporary. She said that her mild/moderate case was a simply awful ordeal; and she is a toughie. (Now 56, she is a life long athlete, who still plays soccer and runs 5ks.

Ironic. She is also a health professional and extremely careful. A family member works in a grocery store. Several people came to work sick. She brought it home. She has been in and out of ER and had a terrible time (young woman with asthma), and developed bilateral pneumonia on top of everything else.

Anyone who thinks a moderate case is no big deal needs to talk to someone who knows. Before she was infected, daughter was rehabbing recovering patients with all kinds of neuro and cardio complications.

Then, of course, everyone who came in contact with you is quarantined for two weeks.

People can chatter all they want, and critique every policy. Do more, do less. More restrictions, less restrictions. Opinions vary. No one is certain what the best course is for a total population..

It would certainly help if everyone you came in contact with followed sensible guidelines to protect you as well as themselves. We can see every day that they don't.
#3 Oldflyer on 2020-09-21 22:56 (Reply)
"sensible guidelines to protect you as well as themselves."

I think this is a myth. It is a great dream; wear the mask and not get covid. But most who get covid wore the mask. This is a highly infectious disease. Eventually most people will get it. Have you noticed that everyone on TV telling you that you must wear the mask is not wearing a mask? IMHO anyone who insists that others should be wearing masks should wear one themselves all the time. A better idea is if it scares you that someone else is not wearing a mask than stay home. THAT is the best sensible guideline.
#4 Anon on 2020-09-22 00:52 (Reply)
We test the hell out of people at essentially no risk — college students — and generate a bunch of false positives and then report it as news to take seriously.

Meanwhile the number of hospitalizations and deaths among that group — numbers we should focus on — are nowhere to be found. Ask yourself why that is.

So strange that there aren’t more of our “leaders” calling out the obvious fear peddling going on here.

We won’t forget.
#5 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2020-09-22 09:35 (Reply)
The positive rates don't scare me at all. The deaths and even the very serious cases do scare me enough to stay out of crowds--though they don't inspire me to order other people to stay out of crowds.
#6 Texan99 on 2020-09-22 10:19 (Reply)
Covid is an extension of the Russia, Russia, Russia political hit. China, Dems, and BLM/Antifa desperately need Trump to be gone. Gitmo is their future if he remains.
#7 indyjonesouthere on 2020-09-22 13:01 (Reply)
I believe, Mr. Jones, you are directly over the target.
#7.1 B on 2020-09-22 23:07 (Reply)

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