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Saturday, April 4. 2020Losing friends over politics
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Very sad... It's painful to lose a close friend but in the end, that ex-friend doesn't deserve her. She's better off investing in friends who value her as a person with opinions rather people who cannot separate her from her opinions.
This is an interesting interview that came up after Dr. Karlyn Borysenko's video that relates to the schism she and probably all of us experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asQ8KFrZY84&feature=youtu.be&t=9
You learn just to keep your mouth shut, and hit delete all those anti-Trump emails you get from other people every day. One guy at the office sends out 10-12 a day sometimes.
Once you start noticing the same thing with the "news," you can turn off about 90% of what the media is saying also because it's total BS. I don't post anything on Facebook either, I just lurk. I find most people have dropped off of Facebook at this point, they have accounts but they are pretty much inactive all the time. Why would you want them as friends in the 1st place?
If some 'friend' dumps you over your political opinion, he/she wasn't worth having as a friend in the first place.
That is the area I was born in and my brother (very leftist) moved back to from California over a decade ago. The colleges are only half of it.
I quit FB and Twitter because of this stuff. And I will not talk to family and friends about politics - there is no positive outcome from doing so. I don't tell them how much I earn either, for the same reason.
A friend that will abandon you because of your support or not of a particular political figure is not, really, a friend. Reality at the grassroots: She has discovered honesty and perception in herself and is deeply hurt to find these things banished in her social circle. How can people be so unable to accept a difference in someone else while seeing themselves as the proud standard bearers of diversity?
My grandparents were college professors in the Northhampton area. This aspect of the Northeast hasn't changed much - the social milieu has always been just this pompously insufferable, at least since I grew up there. I too have had this unfortunate experience. If you once transgress the dogma, you are excommunicated. And these people think they are antireligion...and of course, champions of tolerance.
I've managed to avoid this happening to me outright, but I lived in near-constant fear of it happening to me for several years, and to some degree I still do. I've learned to identify like-minded people though, or at least one who couldn't care less about politics and therefore wouldn't care about my opinion anyway, and am open with those individuals. With others though, we just steer clear of politics as a topic of conversation.
What you do not understand is that these people have been so WELL INDOCtRINATED--they CANNOT come out of the CULT. They cannot just up and leave--like any cult. That indoctrination took place during all the years they attended public schools and universities. Look up cult under psychology and you will see there are clearly explained techniques--the same techniques used on the young girls in classes K-18. Our way or you are shunned. We should have stopped that years ago--but "WE" didn't have the courage to force local school boards into removing this crap. You would do well to Google "American Federation of Teachers". When the NEA (look it up) and AFT Joined up with the AFL-CIO that was the game changer for all of us.
What people don't seem to get is it is not really political. Politics is the tool. It is cultural and racial, and it is a war, not a discussion. It is a battle to completely change society, its values and the norms of the West.
Much of the opposition supports death, either implied or directly, of any who oppose them. The left has understood this en mass since Clinton and switched gears full speed after him. Conservatives and the right have only ever played nice, and lost big. The fact that Trump is a nasty as they are is what got him elected. I've lost a friend because of voting for Trump and defending that vote. This is an old friend, we lived together in college. He married one of my oldest friends from highschool and they met at my house. His attitude about my vote evolved from disagreement to unbelief to distate to outright personal insults. Now, he doesn't even answer a text message. I guess I'm dead to him.
All I did to escalate this was defend my position and then poke him in the ribs a little when I knew he was worked up. Same thing I'd do to any friend. My wife asked me if I feel bad about all this. I said, "F*** him. If he stops talking to me because of politics then I'll consider it a cheap lesson learned." I'd make up and be friends if he simply chilled out and agreed to disagree. But he's a puritan and there's no room in his life for heretics and pagans. The funny things is we've always disagreed about things political, envrinomental, economical, talk radio, etc. I don't know why Trump was the tipping point. It's tribal, not political. Even deeper than cultural. They fear at levels they are only dimly aware of that their tribe will not be in power, and as humans have always done, they will be cast into the outer darkness. This is why their arguments are seldom political, but personal attacks.
It's Hatfields and McCoys, Serbs and Croats, Tutsis and Hutus to them. @Jack Walter---my sister no longer speaks to me because I voted for Trump.
All those Democrats, and all that money they spent---it was in the bag for Hillary. My sister and her husband donated thousands of dollars to the campaign, the DNC, pacs, et cetera: Hillary was bought and paid for. So for Trump to win the election meant that ALL their machinations still wasn't enough. What's a Democrat supposed to do after this? Sell his house and car, too? We crashed their investment. |
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