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"Asylum crisis in Maine"
Make no mistake this doesn't just happen. The mayors of the cities who ask for and accept risky immigrants are getting something of value for it. They aren't altruistic or nice liberals they are trading your rights for money and political gain. What the citizens of these stricken cities should do is bring back the guillotine. Or if they aren't yet woke enough to permanently eliminate these existential threats to their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness then perhaps they should bring back that old tradition of tar and feathers and running them out of town on a rail. Anon: What the citizens of these stricken cities should do is bring back the guillotine.
Anon advocates murdering elected officials. After yesterday's ghoulish display I'm surprised you dare show your giant cyclopsian monochromatic green eyeball around here, Liarbot.
Well, It would be a start after the elected officials who are supposed to protect them welcome violent criminals into their city and then protect them from Federal law enforcement.
mudbug: It would be a start after the elected officials who are supposed to protect them welcome violent criminals into their city and then protect them from Federal law enforcement.
Just to clarify, you think execution of elected officials is preferable to voting them out of office? Or do you think that if you can't convince a majority of the electorate of the rightness of your view, then execution remains a viable option? Shorter Zachriel: Murdering "pre-politicians" when they're infants is A-OK, but executing politicians who knowingly put your life and limb at risk (by letting in/refusing to deport drunk-driving illegal immigrants, for example) is bad form.
Bill Carson: Shorter Zachriel: Murdering "pre-politicians" when they're infants is A-OK
Whatabout?! Not sure where you got that idea. In an case, are you defending the murder of elected officials? Or perhaps abortion doctors?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 11:13
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"are you defending the murder of elected officials?"
Well it is kind of the trendy thing to do. Just ask Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro, the cast of NY Shakespeare in the Park, Joss Whedon, Mickey Rourke, Rosie O'Donnell, Snoop Dogg, David Simon, Marilyn Manson, Larry Wilmore, Sarah Silverman, James Hodgkinson...
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Rusty
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2019-02-01 11:24
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QUOTE: Bill Carson: Shorter Zachriel: Murdering "pre-politicians" when they're infants is A-OK Whatabout?! Not sure where you got that idea. You were defending murdering innocent infants in yesterday's thread, shit-for-brains. Where is the analog to your anodyne 'vote them out of office' for an infant who's being snipped to pieces (i.e., murdered), whose only 'crime' is existing? Politicians obstinately allow/keep illegal immigrants in the US, those illegal immigrants kill US citizens, and in this forum you obstinately, repeatedly defend those politicians' actions and the right of illegal immigrants to be in the US, and yet your dumb ass still chirps "Whatabout"? If you're the parent of a child who's been killed by a drunk-driving illegal immigrant who a leftist politician let/kept in the country, do you get to vote your child back to life? Or will voting the politician in question out of office suffice? QUOTE: In an[sic] case, are you defending the murder of elected officials? Or perhaps abortion doctors? If the actions of elected officials are a threat to a citizen's life, that citizen can act in self-defense, no? In summary, you're OK with innocent infants being killed (your hypocrisy - and nice red herring regarding abortion doctors, whom I failed to mention) while against citizens defending themselves from genuine harm. Whatabout, my ass.
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 11:59
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Bill Carson: If the actions of elected officials are a threat to a citizen's life, that citizen can act in self-defense, no?
Thank you for clarifying. You are in favor of executing public officials. Anyone else care to join mudbug, Anon, Bill Carson, and the rest of the mob?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 12:13
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Thank YOU for clarifying: I am NOT allowed to defend myself against those who threaten me and my loved ones.
ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 12:24
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Bill Carson: Thank YOU for clarifying: I am NOT allowed to defend myself against those who threaten me and my loved ones.
In a democratic republic, the way to change the government is through elections or other constitutional means. QUOTE: Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 12:27
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QUOTE: In a democratic republic, the way to change the government is through elections or other constitutional means. Baby-killing advocate parrots soothing words.
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 12:32
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Bill Carson: Baby-killing advocate parrots soothing words.
Well, we certainly don't advocate killing babies—but you knew that. In any case, you've also pointed to the immigration issue to justify murdering elected officials. We'll give you the benefit of the doubt and grant that you are just venting, and not actually saying you would murder elected officials.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 12:40
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QUOTE: Well, we certainly don't advocate killing babies—but ... Y'all certainly did yesterday.
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Zzzatemypuppy
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2019-02-01 21:01
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I take it that the American Civil War was just a figment of our imagination? Was the American revolution just smoke and mirrors? You simply do not understand American history...it is best the borg stay in borg land.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 12:40
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indyjonesouthere: I take it that the American Civil War was just a figment of our imagination?
Secession to preserve slavery is almost universally considered a tragic mistake, a violation of the affirmation of conservatism in the Prudence Clause. But it does demonstrate that the Constitution was unable to resolve the issue. Are you advocating secession? Murdering elected officials? Or what exactly?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 12:45
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Your statement was that government be changed by elections or other Constitutional means. That hits a dead end as authoritarians do not allow change to anything beyond what they want. You want my guns? Do authoritarians want my guns? You want 4th trimester abortions? You think no one will object to baby killing? The borg does not understand America and neither do authoritarians...leave us in peace.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 13:21
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indyjonesouthere: Your statement was that government be changed by elections or other Constitutional means. That hits a dead end as authoritarians do not allow change to anything beyond what they want.
Sure. The Prudence Clause is followed by this: QUOTE: But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Are you saying that city mayors are despots beyond constitutional restraint? Or perhaps you disagree with the reasoning in the U.S. Declaration of Independence?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:29
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Not just mayors but also governors and the administrative state. Look at the desperation of blue state governors and blue city mayors relating to guns, abortion, and immigration. They don't even pretend to follow Constitutional limits to their authoritarianism. The living breathing Constitution is collapsing as their grip on SCOTUS lessens. They are desperate and embracing insanity.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 13:46
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indyjonesouthere: Look at the desperation of blue state governors and blue city mayors relating to guns, abortion, and immigration. They don't even pretend to follow Constitutional limits to their authoritarianism.
Constitutional limits are enforced by the courts, ultimately, by the Supreme Court. What court decision have they defied? The executive is controlled by Republicans, so they are charged with enforcing the law, including court decisions. You are going to have to be a lot more specific. (See the U.S. Declaration of Independence for guidance.)
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:52
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That is incorrect, Gasbot. In fact, it's handwaving newspeak, as you well know.
You're out of your element, obviously. Not the outright lying - that is your element. Pertinence and simple decent human reason and civility. Your machine babbler routinely comes up wanting in those categories, but I repeat myself. Tell me, are communist revolutions generally honest, Shitburg, or they always predicated on the takeover of language, the inversion of meaning, and the overthrow of society? Us normal humans see the progression. Machine reason not so much, and Gasbots not at all, that being their express purpose. Put another way, given how you prevaricate as a matter of course - and in this instance put something precisely on its head in a transparent ploy to handwave and troll - shall we conclude Utopia is always built on the lie? Trick question. I notice you haven't addressed our points.
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Meh
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2019-02-01 14:16
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Northeast abortion law, northeast gun law, California sanctuary cities. It takes years to get through SCOTUS and it requires something other than a uniparty to challenge the lawbreakers. For instance...your 17 intelligence agencies didn't deliver the FISA request information...It was the Ohrs, Steele, the DNC with Hillary and then Rosenstein setting Trump up for the investigation. Justice Roberts is wrong about judges being political and everyone with a lick of sense knows it. He even rewrote Obamacare to make it Constitutional...it was a tax not healthcare. Not surprising it was overpriced and underperforming.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 14:50
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indyjonesouthere: For instance...your 17 intelligence agencies didn't deliver the FISA request information...It was the Ohrs, Steele, the DNC with Hillary and then Rosenstein setting Trump up for the investigation.
Have no idea what you are talking about, or why that would suggest that constitutional institutions won't eventually resolve the issue. If you expect there will never be abuses in government, then you may as well be an anarchist.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 14:55
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It is your never ending delay tactics to keep law from being enforced. Under the authoritarian living breathing Constitution the law is never enforced. By the way...where's Ruth.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 15:08
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indyjonesouthere: It is your never ending delay tactics to keep law from being enforced.
You still can't seem to articulate specifics. Of course there are delays. QUOTE: Be careful of the law. It's a twisty, cranky old thing, and you may flout it a dozen times, but once it has you in its grip, you'll find it never lets go.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 15:32
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There is more than delays...there is the living breathing Constitution as embraced by authoritarians. Authoritarians such as those that entered through FDR's packed court. Even you should recognize the administrative state and FDR's court packing. You even saw a bit of it as Roberts rewrote Obamacare. Haven't you seen the panic stricken Kavanaugh senators trying anything to keep the court in FDR's image? Where's Ruth?
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 17:39
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Zzzatemypuppy
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2019-02-01 18:36
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^ The Gasbot continues to invert meaning in its daily discharge of Newspeak. Normal humans call this lying.
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Meh
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2019-02-01 15:46
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Let's try this tact:
Does a zygote have the same value, in your philosophy, as a toddler? How would you answer this conundrum. There is a fire at a fertility clinic. Down one hallway, you hear the soft purr of the freezer that holds a thousand embryos. Down the other hallway, you hear the cries of a toddler. Time is short. Whom do you rescue?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 12:50
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tact tack
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 12:51
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Do an infant vs. a toddler. And ask the mother of each whether their 'mental health' will be adversely impacted if their child is rescued.
P.S. It's "tack".
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 12:56
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Bill Carson: Do an infant vs. a toddler.
Notably, you didn't attempt an answer. We do respect people who have strong views on abortion, but they often glaze over the issues that confront people in real life, such as fetuses that are nonviable due to deformities. Do try to answer the question. Bill Carson: P.S. It's "tack". Already caught it. Thanks.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:01
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QUOTE: Notably, you didn't attempt an answer. Notably, neither did you, despite infanticide being a hot topic of late. One has to save the toddler, because while I am unsure about embryos, I am pretty certain your average toddler will suffer a great deal while being burnt to death. But that choice doesn't mean that the embryos are nothing. Now, you answer. Should the toddler or the infant be saved, and only if the mothers allow the rescue to proceed?
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 13:12
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And, should either (or both) mothers be allowed to veto the rescue if they feel that their child's survival will adversely impact their "mental health"?
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 13:17
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And when you're done asking those questions, answer this one:
Imagine now two sets of embryos instead of a set of embryos and a toddler. One are embryos who would grow into white, male adults and the other into females "of color". Rescuing the cracker embryos every time would be cool, because neither set is anything, right?
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 13:26
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Gasbot has built its reputation on the infallible consistency of its weaseling and lying. The point it won't stop avoiding - because it'd throw a wrench into its whirligig of lies if it didn't - is that somewhere along its moral trajectory some progressive could decide to let a 5 year old choke on popcorn in front of the teevee because her mental health was afflicted by raising Junior. As if that's not a contradiction, which of course it utterly is. And the left would probably crow about the holy virtues of "choice" and "liberty" down at some tainted progressive congregation somewhere. Black is white, roboticism is humanity, and Gasbot isn't a transparent baiting panel of trolls.
If the incessant Ghoulbot shitburg of royal-weeing diseased reason that floats by the window every day refuses to establish a prohibition against something you can bet there's a reason for it instead. Kinda like it trying to bait everybody into advocating murder in this thread pursuant a popular figure of speech after as much as defending such real terminal "choice" by conscious omission yesterday. While I can understand that such inhumanity exists, I can't understand how it went missing and I certainly don't expect to let it go without a passing mention. I guess that makes me human instead of some deranged clattering machinery with a penchant for outright mendacity.
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Meh
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2019-02-01 14:05
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Bill Carson: Rescuing the cracker embryos every time would be cool, because neither set is anything, right?
No. That would be directly contrary to our "wholehearted" position.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 14:13
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Bill Carson: One has to save the toddler, because while I am unsure about embryos, I am pretty certain your average toddler will suffer a great deal while being burnt to death.
Thank you for your answer. So preventing a toddler's painful death is worth the life of at least a thousand human embryos. Bill Carson: But that choice doesn't mean that the embryos are nothing. We agree wholeheartedly. Bill Carson: Should the toddler or the infant be saved, and only if the mothers allow the rescue to proceed? Almost anyone would save the toddler, of course. And no, you don't have to ask the mother, even if there were time to do so. It's illegal to kill an infant. It's legal to abort a non-viable fetus. It's illegal to abort a viable fetus unless the fetus has a several abnormality, or to protect the life and health of the mother. You probably reject all elective abortions, which we do respect. Do you also reject abortions in the cases of severe fetal abnormality, or to protect the life and health of the mother?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:36
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"...Life and health of the mother."
More lies from Zachriel. The abortion bill does not say "life AND health". It says "life OR health". As in "If you feel anxious about having a baby you can now legally kill it up to and including the time of birth. Zachriel = evil.
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Rusty
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2019-02-01 14:01
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Notably, you didn't attempt an answer.
Pot/kettle. STFU, you inhumane gaslighting prevaricator. Your pathetic reputation is etched in stone.
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Meh
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2019-02-01 13:47
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We'll keep you comfortable while a discussion among actual humans ensues, Gasbot.
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Meh
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2019-02-01 16:59
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QUOTE: I take it that the American Civil War was just a figment of our imagination? Was the American revolution just smoke and mirrors? You simply do not understand American history. Well put. Soothing words didn't stop the American Revolution or Civil War from happening.
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 13:00
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Bill Carson: Soothing words didn't stop the American Revolution or Civil War from happening.
That's right. Secession to preserve slavery is almost universally considered a tragic mistake, a violation of the affirmation of conservatism in the Prudence Clause. The South seceded because the Constitutional system would eventually have meant the end of slavery. It wasn't the Union, adhering to the Constitution, that started the war; which seems to undercut your position.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:04
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QUOTE: ... a violation of the affirmation of conservatism ... Leftist lectures us - soothingly - on conservatism.
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 13:21
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No kidding. Gasbot's breathlessly in depth analysis should have brought it enlightenment - bluntly, the Civil War was a technically illegal act; an unconstitutional federal aggression that harmed everybody except the real perpetrators of social injustice, such as it was.
Bizarrely but not surprisingly, Gasbot leaps to the conclusions formed by bias; it rolls its little apparatus up to the facts to deduce more or less their inverse: The south induced a war upon itself blah ergo Constitution blah ergo principle. A typical five-step Gasbot path to reason in which the first and last points contradict one another and the middle three are absent or assumed. The power of bias to remodel history. Trolling.
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Meh
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2019-02-02 09:17
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Bill Carson: Leftist lectures us - soothingly - on conservatism.
Fallacy of diversion. With what part of our comment do you take issue?
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:45
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Leftist says things, demands to be taken seriously ...
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Bill Carson
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2019-02-01 14:11
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Notably, you didn't attempt an answer, Gasbot. Sound familiar, Gasbot? Why is it that notably, you never attempt an answer when the topic turns to the left's outright mendacity and ruthlessness?
1. The left's outright mendacity and ruthlessness. 2. ... 3. Some shit happens. 4. ... 5. Utopia! Notably, you never attempt an explanation of your governing philosophy, Gasbot. Why is that? Seems a touch problematic, right Gasbot?
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Meh
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2019-02-01 23:00
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Kiddiez be trolling today big time after the beatdowns of the past week or so.
Poor little thingz... Let's count the lies that Chris Matthews and Bill Nye tell in just 52 seconds:
1) Scientific uncertainty about AGW is within +/- 2% 2) The Sahara Desert is growing. 3) No more arable land in the Sahel. 4) No more trees left in the Sahel. 5) Africans migrating to Europe because of climate change 6) Central Americans migrating to US because climate 7) Floridians migrating because of climate change. The idiocracy is here. The suspicious issue with the mainstream coverage:
Unless you're a real Panglossian, who believes that the climate of the past few centuries is the absolute perfect, 'assigned by God' climate....there should be both good and bad points to every drift of climate. However ONLY bad weather is blamed on climate change, and NEVER good weather. That is very strong evidence for propaganda as opposed to honest reporting. Scientific honesty would require both the good and the bad proposed effects be reported, even if one was more numerous than the other. The fact that the good effects are missing should be very informative. Great point. Even more so when the truth is reversed. The Sahel is greening, farmers have more grazing land than in hundreds of years previous - and these climate shills not only ignore the good news, but try to tell us the exact opposite.
That generally answers the 'ignorant/evil' question in my mind. jay: Unless you're a real Panglossian, who believes that the climate of the past few centuries is the absolute perfect, 'assigned by God' climate....there should be both good and bad points to every drift of climate.
That is generally true—though, we must note that civilized humans, having built permanent settlements, tend to thrive in stable climates. jay: However ONLY bad weather is blamed on climate change, and NEVER good weather. Well, with the mainstream media, if it bleeds it ledes. However, scientists are very interested in both positive and negative effects of climate change. Generally, if global warming is low and slow, there is a net positive gain. If global warming is moderate, then some regions will benefit while others will be disadvantaged. If global warming is high, then most regions will be negatively affected, with agriculture and ecosystems severely disrupted. Current projections are for significant and rapid global warming over the next several decades. Humans are highly adaptable, and while science will help humans adapt to climate change, keep in mind that an important part of science is using scientific foresight to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. Lot of ifs in that little diatribe, kiddiez.
Nothing new. Global warming is all about politics and politicians garnering more power, control, and finally more of our money. Every authoritarian in local, state, federal and finally UN government is wholly behind acquiring more control over others. Leave us and take your borg commune and global government to some other corner of the world.
More lies from zachriel. Ho hum.
https://principia-scientific.org/scientists-and-studies-predict-imminent-global-cooling/ indyjonesouthere: Global warming is all about politics and politicians garnering more power, control, and finally more of our money.
While there is certainly politics involved, global warming is a strongly supported scientific fact, supported by multiple lines of evidence. "supported by multiple lines of evidence."
The whole reason for the "hockeystick" fiasco was scientists who conspired to IGNORE lines of evidence that contradicted global warming. "Hey these tree rings indicate global cooling, not warming." "Just throw 'em out then." "But they DO show warming up until 1980." "Then keep the data up to 1980 then throw the rest out."
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Rusty
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2019-02-01 13:18
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Global warming is a government funded program to keep scientists employed that couldn't acquire jobs elsewhere. It also keeps a large flow of money going into the university system to keep the SJW's employed.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 13:28
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indyjonesouthere: Global warming is a government funded program to keep scientists employed that couldn't acquire jobs elsewhere.
Global warming is a strongly supported scientific fact, supported by many independent lines of evidence, including observations from the land, sea, atmosphere, and space. This remains true regardless of government funding.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 13:48
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Next it will be the conciliation of evidence gambit that proves ...
Wait for it.
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Zzzatemypuppy
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2019-02-01 13:58
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Global warming is a Malthusian religion mandated by "earth day" that was instituted in the public education system. Authoritarians kicked Christianity out of the public schools and replaced it with earth day. The goddess Rachel Carson and the earth day bible "silent spring" are the worshiped idols. The idol demands respect, control, and money. Pay up.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 15:00
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indyjonesouthere: Global warming is a Malthusian religion mandated by "earth day" that was instituted in the public education system.
None of that impacts the scientific evidence supporting global warming. indyjonesouthere: Authoritarians kicked Christianity out of the public schools That would be the First Amendment.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-01 15:38
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Gasbot: None of that impacts the scientific evidence supporting global warming.
The scientific evidence supporting global warming is less compelling than the scientific evidence supporting global cooling, NewspeakBot. Gasbot: That would be the First Amendment. No, NewspeakBot, that would decidedly not be the 1A. It would be precisely misaligned with the 1A because it is instead the statist religion of progressive secular humanism, the stated ideal that all truth is subject to whatever trailer park of sheer mendacity the tyranny of the majority NewspeakBot wants to drag it through. Hence: Newspeak. What, you think we don't see this proud tradition of NewspeakBots worldwide? In fact, we normal humans see that Newspeak fits the bill precisely: Steal the language, invert meaning, and take over what had been normal humanity. Gasbots are experts. Why is such evil the constant traveling companion of progressive NewspeakBots, Gasbot? We note that with all your gaslighting you've avoided the question.
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Meh
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2019-02-01 15:56
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If it's prevarication you crave check out the kiddiez over at the Pirates Cove.us.
A hoot!
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Zzzatemypuppy
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2019-02-01 16:43
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That is narrative, just like the 17 intelligence agencies that said Trump was colluding. Just like the hockey stick narrative. Just like keeping your health insurance and your doctor. Just like for the health of the mother. Authoritarians NEED and DEMAND more power, control, and money. You are not going to be allowed to get that kind of grip on the political system. Gramsci's march through the institutions is a foreigners concept of authoritarian control and like the borg who wish to assimilate the masses, we are not interested in your foreign ideas...take them elsewhere...along with your other globalist ideals. Keep your religion out of the public schools.
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indyjonesouthere
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2019-02-01 17:55
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indyjonesouthere: That is narrative, just like the 17 intelligence agencies that said Trump was colluding.
Your claim is that global warming is political. Our position is that global warming is strongly supported by the scientific evidence, even if there is a political component to the debate. You attempt to support your claim by referring to supposed instances of government overreach, but that doesn't actually distinguish between our positions. Most of your examples appear to be ordinary politics or misrepresentations, but even if authoritarians were using the crisis to grab power that doesn't mean that that the crisis is not occurring.
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Zachriel
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2019-02-02 08:44
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You're "scientific" position has been factually refuted countless times, Gasbot, and is regularly shown to rely on cherry-picked data, revised data, corrupted data, selected models, ad hoc models, presumed modeling, and the nonsensical "first principles" that the above simply can't support.
There is no global warming that "science" has discovered. The premise is still trying to mold data into its own image. That's not opinion, Gasbot, because each instance is supported. In other words, your scientific position is a running attempt at bias confirmation issued by way of your endless trolling of regular normals who simply already know better. As for the political component, you've also been exposed countless times as a leftist shill and babbler. Most of us have deduced you're either paid to promote your endless condescending crap or some bizarre experiment in machine learning released into the wild. Why? Because you're incapable of normal, honest, good faith human discourse. If AGW was supportable you'd be able to discuss it honestly. Neither of those are true.
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Meh
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2019-02-02 09:02
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re One of the things about Big Business that provokes skepticism and hostility is just plain bigness, the sometimes incomprehensible scale of modern multinational enterprises.
Williamson is probably right about that. It is one of things. However, I would speculate that a much more important reason is the way large corporations make a conscious and deliberate effort to screw their customers. The article about San Franscisco was terrific. Ditto Feynman.
diBlasio clearly hates NYC. And its citizens. Loves the bums.
Shultz: Yep, the Dems love "crazy". Have for quite a while. NASA Sees Climate Cooling Trend Thanks to Low Sun Activity
https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30214-nasa-sees-climate-cooling-trend-thanks-to-low-sun-activity feeblemind: NASA Sees Climate Cooling Trend Thanks to Low Sun Activity
The report concerns cooling in the thermosphere, not the surface or lower atmosphere. The thermosphere warms and cools with the solar cycle. As the greenhouse effect increases, the thermosphere is expected to experience additional cooling. QUOTE: NASA: While this warming has no implications for climate change in the troposphere, a fundamental prediction of climate change theory is that the upper atmosphere will cool in response to increasing carbon dioxide. That is a great Feynman story and scientists of that caliber are indeed rare.
I think we should all give BD a big hand for giving free air to the Z bot. No need to wonder how their crap spreads, it spreads here. I'm sure if we all went over to Democratic Underground we're receive the same welcome from the hosts.
"Anon advocates murdering elected officials."
It was tongue in cheek rhetoric just like when Roger Stone emailed someone to tell him to give congress crap when questioned. But I will say that something like this will be necessary if our politicians continue to rule extra-constitutionally. I think the quote began "when in the course of human events..." followed by war. Loved the Feynman article! Interesting to learn about physicist Paul Steinhardt, who I didn't know before.
Richard Feynman caused me an existential crisis when I retired and started a blog in 2017 called "The Switchel Philosopher." I'm a big Feynman fan. And Feynman hated philosophers. Oops. OK, I didn't lose too much sleep over that, but I did think about it a bit. I finally addressed the matter in a blog post last November: Science vs. Philosophy ‘Government will save us from winter!’ Elizabeth Warren
Elizabeth Warren is one gold-plated doofus. QUOTE: Our children & grandchildren should grow up in a world where they can breathe the air & drink the water – and go outside without risking their lives in extreme temperatures. It’s time to protect our planet & pass a Green New Deal. Government can save you from extreme temperature? Tell that to inhabitants of North Dakota, for example.Maggies did a good job of summarizing her in one line, but I still found it entertaining to read the whole thing. |
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