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Wednesday, October 10. 2018Wednesday morning linksMEET YOUR NEW INTIMATE PARTNER — THE SEXBOT The UK is Bathing in a Soup of Anti-depressants Now Facebook Would Like To Put A Smart Camera In Your House Say, What Does The New Climahysteric Report Expect From You? Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture - Youth isn’t a good proxy for support of political correctness, and race isn’t either. D.C. Workers Revolt Against Minimum Wage Hike, Win Repeal - Many of the very workers the law sought to rescue or protect didn’t want it in the first place and fought vociferously to have it repealed Anti-Kavanaugh protest postponed 'in recognition of Indigenous People's Day' Trump Caves On Year-Round Ethanol. King Corn Still Rules Terrible decision. If Trump doesn;t have the balls to get rid of that boondoggle, nobody does. The ethanol mandate has failed in its original purpose The rape allegation against Bill Clinton, explained Democrats Are Failing On Russia For The Same Reason They Failed On Kavanaugh - The similarities between the failed Democrat strategy against Kavanaugh and the way the Russia investigation is playing out are striking. Democrats’ latest excuse: Blame the Constitution Hillary is done with civility until Dems regain power Where’s the outrage over Hillary’s call for a ‘civil’ war? The Left Learns An Important Lesson From The Kavanaugh Fight: They Need To Be Even More Obnoxious The Casualty List From The Kavanaugh Battle JANE MAYER, RONAN FARROW RAN WITH KAVANAUGH HIT TO SHOW ‘PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR’ A New Chinese-Funded Railway In Kenya Sparks Debt-Trap Fears How an Extremist Government Treats Girls and Women Trackbacks
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QUOTE: Where’s the outrage over Hillary’s call for a ‘civil’ war? Um, in the same fantasy world that the author lives in. Clinton was talking about civility: politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech. Civility war? Maybe the Republicans can respond by cannon firing Oxford commas at the enemy. Alright, let's assume for the sake of argument that she meant simply foregoing polite speech (after all, she is an old woman surely she didn't mean to throw hands). How do you think her words are likely to be interpreted by those who yelled and screamed in the Senate, who accosted Sen. Cruz and his wife at dinner, who think Hodgkinson perhaps should've had better aim? The language and suggested tactics I'm hearing now from Democrat Party leaders is reminiscent of what I heard from crackpots back when Clinton and Obama were President. Then the leftists were in a tizzy because some random person in backwoods Michigan might believe Clinton was ushering in a totalitarian "Socialist State" and he/she "needed to be prepared". Now, you've got leaders of that leftist party saying, "don't be civil" "push back" "confront" "they're trying to destroy you". Not once did you hear Bob Dole or Mitt Romney spout that. Are you all convinced they're not really meaning to sow the wind?
Even if you assume Clinton has always been beyond farming out the literal violence to underlings (no one ever accused her to doing the dirty work herself), when has she ever committed herself to civility in speech? She's as nasty a piece of personal work as we've seen in American politics in the last half century.
Texan99: Even if you assume Clinton has always been beyond farming out the literal violence to underlings ...
Sure. Who can forget her spending time in prison for the murder of Vince Foster, or her role in the Pizzagate conspiracy? QUOTE: Sure. Who can forget her spending time in prison for the murder of Vince Foster, or her role in the Pizzagate conspiracy? And who can forget the first two years of her Presidency? Supreme Court confirmations: Donald Trump: 2 Hillary Clinton: 0 U.S. Courts of Appeals confirmations: Trump: 26 Clinton: 0 U.S. District Courts confirmations: Trump: 41 Clinton: 0 You're welcome. P.S. The mob called: Your turn to direct traffic in Portland.
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Bill Carson
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2018-10-10 13:11
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QUOTE: let's assume for the sake of argument that she meant simply foregoing polite speech ...which I'm inclined to do. HRC is a talker, not a doer. She lives in a world of babble for pay. Ref. her 2016 campaign rhetoric, her Sec. State record. and HillaryCare record for example. BillH: and HillaryCare record for example.
With the failure of the Clinton health care plan, Hillary Clinton concentrated on pushing legislation to provide healthcare insurance for children. That program, the Children’s Health Insurance Program or CHIP, is now very widely popular. BornSouthern: Alright, let's assume for the sake of argument that she meant simply foregoing polite speech
Why assume arguendo, when it's clearly what she said? BornSouthern: How do you think her words are likely to be interpreted by those who yelled and screamed in the Senate The right to peaceful protest is enshrined in the Bill of Rights. Her words defended those who were called a "mob" while exercising their First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. She talked about the rule of law. We do not agree with her about civility, however. One can be civil and still loudly and vigorously protest. One must never forget that your opponents, even if misguided, are your brothers and sisters. BornSouthern: who accosted Sen. Cruz and his wife at dinner While protesters have a right to voice their opinion, protestees have a right to a private space. A reasonable line can be drawn. BornSouthern: who think Hodgkinson perhaps should've had better aim? No one of note thinks that. BornSouthern: Then the leftists were in a tizzy because some random person in backwoods Michigan might believe Clinton was ushering in a totalitarian "Socialist State" and he/she "needed to be prepared". It wasn't some "random person in backwoods Michigan", but a well-funded astroturf campaign called the Tea Party. People showed up at rallies carrying guns. One of their rallying cries concerned the high deficits. The other was the Kenyan usurper. Whatever happened with that? Today, you have President Trump, who has discarded all notions of civility. -- It's a Scary Time for Boys ♪♫♬ It’s time for women to rise up, Use our collective voice The day to vote’s November 6, So let’s go make some noise... The Women’s March released a meme with the words “rape apologist” printed across Collins’ face. One of the group’s leaders, Linda Sarsour, warned that Collins’s pre-vote speech was like “watching white supremacy live on the Senate floor” and reminded her Twitter followers that Collins is “the mother & grandmother of white women in America who gave us a Donald Trump presidency. The 53%,” referring to the percentage of white women who voted for the president.
Christopher B: The Women’s March released a meme with the words “rape apologist” printed across Collins’ face...
And? The question concerned the conflation of civility with "civil war". Or are you saying that an unfair characterization on the left justifies an unfair characterization on the right? Conflation? I believe you mistook a play on words for the firing upon Fort Sumter.
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BornSouthern
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2018-10-10 20:23
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BornSouthern: Conflation? I believe you mistook a play on words for the firing upon Fort Sumter.
The author wrote, "There you have it — a declaration of war and a license for violence." So, yes. He is saying a lack of civility is the same as firing on Fort Sumter.
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Zachriel
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2018-10-11 07:59
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The uncivil actions by the libroprogtard dems are backfiring spectacularly.
Keep it up, kiddiez. 😂😂😂 " Clinton was talking about civility"
She'd do better talking about things she knows about, things like corruption, hypocrisy, talking to the dead, treating people poorly, drinking and especially how to be a sore loser. But civility? It is to laugh. The corn lobby is too strong and too broad to fight. Ethanol is destroying engines, cutting gas mileage, increasing fuel costs and actually increases pollution A better solution to this problem rather than trying to cut the freebeis and subsidies that the industry is hooked on would be: Buy out the ethanol companies giving them a slight profit for the sale. Keep the billions and billions in subsidies to the corn farmer but make it a law that it must be sold as food. In other words keep paying the ransom/subsidies but at least save the citizens from this terrible idea that is harming us all.
QUOTE: Trump Caves On Year-Round Ethanol. Not to worry. Trump has the balls to get rid of that boondoggle, and he also has a keen sense of timing. If he promised to remove those subsidies (I really can't recall whether he did or not, and am too lazy to look it up), he'll get on it after the mid-terms. By not attacking, but in fact loosening the subsidies now he might get one or two, or a few more Republican congressmen elected, which I think he's focused at present. Seeing how he operates, I don't think he'll have a problem reversing course after the mid-terms and BSing his way through it. They want to cap the planets temperature...that either makes them sack of hammer stupid or lying through their teeth about what their real goal is.
While I'm always up for embracing the power of "and" it sort of seems obvious what is going on as in each report the histrionics gets cranked up another notch or 2. IF, as some speculate, we're going into a cooling period for the next 60-100 years or so, they're going to insist the policies they're pushing are WORKING, so we need even MORE windmills (which don't work well in the cold) and solar (which doesn't work well in climates where it snows) - and they'll want money to push it...
JLawson: IF, as some speculate, we're going into a cooling period for the next 60-100 years or so ...
The speculation is based on observed solar cycles and a Maunder Minimum type event. However, the forcing from a Maunder Minimum is too small to counteract anthropogenic greenhouse warming. I hope you're right.
I think you're going to be wrong, though. JLawson: I hope you're right.
It's a matter of scientific data, which strongly supports anthropogenic greenhouse warming.
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Zachriel
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2018-10-10 17:29
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Only if you assault the raw numbers in ways that'd make a gang rapist blush.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/07/bombshell-audit-of-global-warming-data-finds-it-riddled-with-errors/
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JLawson
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2018-10-11 09:29
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JLawson: Only if you assault the raw numbers
In science, independent replication is a key to confidence. Many statistical analyses have been done on the raw data, confirming the trend. However, not only do we have evidence from physical first principles, but the satellite and surface data show much the same trend. They are completely different data-sets, using completely different methodologies, assembled by completely different teams of scientists. In addition, if the warming is due to the greenhouse effect, then we would expect the lower stratosphere to cool. And that is what we observe.
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Zachriel
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2018-10-11 09:52
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The generic congressional ballot poll flipped from 47-42 Dem last week to straight-up even at 45-45. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/10/more-evidence-for-the-kavanaugh-effect.php
The Dems are really going to have to get uncivil to turn that around in the next few weeks, but they've got the personnel for it. QUOTE: The ethanol mandate has failed in its original purpose It hasn't. It's purpose has always been to subsidise farmers over the backs of consumers. QUOTE: Terrible decision. If Trump doesn;t have the balls to get rid of that boondoggle, nobody does. Farm subsidies are very difficult to get rid of. Extremely powerful lobby. And ethanol corn even more so because it's got not just farmers but petro industry AND greenies behind it. My fear is that Hillary really believes this. I think she really believes that she has been as civil and self-controlled as humanly possible, and Democrats have been the nonviolent ones these last fifty years. Stalin believed that the Ukrainian peasants were hiding the food and evidence of good harvest in order to make him look bad. Much of German and Polish antisemitism was founded on the millions of deaths in Russia because of the Bolsheviks, which they associated with Jews. The Nazis really thought this was self-defense. Narcissists are capable of this level of unreality.
They have refused to condemn the violence for years (or briefly disavowed it then sent it down the memory hole). Now it is increasing, but few are defecting. Assistant Village Idiot: They have refused to condemn the violence for years
Hillary Clinton: "I’m calling on this historic church, and all of our churches, to think hard about what special role you can play. Every day, you teach and show us about the Golden Rule and so much else. Why can’t we really believe in and act on it? To treat others as we would want to be treated. [..] I’ve tried to say for some time now that our country needs more love and kindness. I know it’s not the kind of thing presidential candidates usually say. But we have to find ways to repair these wounds and close these divides. The great genius and salvation of the United States is our capacity to do and to be better. And we must answer the call to do that again." Trump: "Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees." Obama: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"
Eric Holder: "Michelle [Obama] always says, 'When they go low, we go high.' No. No. When they go low, we kick them." Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.): "Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa: ""That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him." Hank_M: Obama: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"
Of course, no one takes that sort of statement literally, unless you think Republicans are using literal knives. Even if taken literally, if someone comes at you with a knife, then feel free to use your gun. Hank_M: Eric Holder: "Michelle [Obama] always says, 'When they go low, we go high.' No. No. When they go low, we kick them." Again, no one takes the comment literally. In the long run, Obama's strategy is more likely to have positive effects. Nevertheless, if someone hits you low, then you can certainly hit them back. Hank_M: Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.): "Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," That statement was simply wrong, especially in light of the history of labor violence, and Capuano apologized. Hank_M: Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa: ""That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him." That statement was very wrong, and Kanjorski should have apologized. Notably, he lost reelection. Of course, none of this addresses the point. "Of course, no one takes that sort of statement literally"
Steve Scalise does not agree. Republican Rep. Diane Black does not agree. Congressman Jason Lewis disagrees. Sen. Rand Paul’s and his family disagree. I could go on.
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Hank_M
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2018-10-10 15:40
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Zzzzatemypuppy
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2018-10-10 16:49
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Amazing how 99% of the political violence comes from the left.
Hillary calls half the country irredeemable, and now says she doesn’t need to be civil; the two statements are linked. In Portland, the police routinely look the other way to left wing violence. I’m sure they do so in other cities as well. It would take hours to track down all the incidents of left wing violence in just 2018. Maxine Waters has called for violence. Now Eric Holder has called for it. Sooner or later, big violence is going to erupt.
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B. Hammer
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2018-10-10 16:51
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Zachriel: Of course, no one takes that sort of statement literally
Hank_M: Steve Scalise does not agree. Republican Rep. Diane Black does not agree. Congressman Jason Lewis disagrees. Sen. Rand Paul’s and his family disagree. Huh? If you are saying it the comment should be taken literally, then you are you saying Scalise, Black, Lewis, and Paul took a knife to a fight. That seems contrary to fact.
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Zachriel
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2018-10-10 17:32
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Well aren't y'all clever little kiddiez.
😂😂😂
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Zzzzatemypuppy
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2018-10-10 20:24
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B. Hammer: Amazing how 99% of the political violence comes from the left.
That claim is not consistent with the evidence. For instance, people on the far right went to Charlottesville for the express purpose of committing violence. One person was killed and many injured by a right-wing extremist who plowed his car into a crowd. B. Hammer: Hillary calls half the country irredeemable ... The term she used was deplorable, and it only applied to half of Trump's supporters, not half the country. Still, it's not a fair characterization. A better term would have been unpersuadable. She was probably equating these people with those who also claimed that Obama was a Kenyan usurper.
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Zachriel
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2018-10-10 17:43
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Uh no, the Heifer was referring to Trump's supporters literally.
😂😂😂.
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Zzzzatemypuppy
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2018-10-10 20:28
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Hank_M: Obama: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"
Z: Of course, no one takes that sort of statement literally Aug 29th, TRUMP'S 5 RULES FOR RULING THE WORLD. Z, after a commenter pointed out that he was " reading the headline of an article literally, replied that yes, "We read the words as written and responded to those words". Exactly my point. The democrats are using loaded language to incite violence and yes, some do take their comments literally (as you did) and they've committed violence. The democrats are urging them on. Harold Modica: Exactly my point.
And we provided a literal reading. Are you saying Republicans are bringing a knife to a fight? Of course, no one reads it that way. It's an obvious metaphor. As for the article "Trump's 5 Rules for Ruling the World", the author is arguing that Trump uses chaos as power to intimidate other nations and gain victory over them. It's not a metaphor. This is a metaphor: Chaos is a ladder. Harold Modica: The democrats are using loaded language to incite violence We agree that there is a problem with loaded language leading to violence, though you may be falsely ascribing intention. Nonetheless, loaded language should be avoided.
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Zachriel
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2018-10-11 08:49
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I don't know how much America has changed, except superficially. Do these protestor/rioters not realize this is how you get Nixon, I mean Trump?
I forgot to mention that back in the 60's, middle America hated protesters/rioters.
Exasperated: I forgot to mention that back in the 60's, middle America hated protesters/rioters.
Americans have never liked troublemakers. A 1966 Gallup poll found that 63% of Americans had an unfavorable opinion of Dr. Martin Luther King and only 33% had a positive opinion, a 26% unfavorability increase from 1963. Hmm, I don't remember MLK's supporters harassing drivers, including the elderly ones, harassing diners, or threatening people in a wheel chairs.
Anonymous: Hmm, I don't remember MLK's supporters harassing drivers, including the elderly ones, harassing diners, or threatening people in a wheel chairs.
Then you weren't paying attention. Breaking the color barrier at lunch counters was harassing diners. An open letter from Birmingham clergy urging blacks to withdraw their support from King makes the point. QUOTE: Just as we formerly pointed out that "hatred and violence have no sanction in our religious and political traditions," we also point out that such actions as incite to hatred and violence, however technically peaceful those actions may be, have not contributed to the resolution of our local problems. We do not believe that these days of new hope are days when extreme measures are justified in Birmingham. In response, King wrote A letter from a Birmingham Jail, one of the most famous letters in American history. QUOTE: "How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. There was always the threat of violence, against King and his supporters, and by King's supporters. Do you think everyone in the Civil Rights Movement was a saint, or that some didn't have more radical views?
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Zachriel
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2018-10-10 17:55
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Nixon ran and won the Presidency in........ 1968.
Im referring to the Riots at the Democratic National Convention (Chicago 8), SDS, Weathermen, and the race riots. MLK gave up on Non-Violence
Quote from 1967:Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking. But most of all, alienated from society and knowing that this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights. There are thus elements of emotional catharsis in the violent act. This may explain why most cities in which riots have occurred have not had a repetition, even though the causative conditions remain. It is also noteworthy that the amount of physical harm done to white people other than police is infinitesimal and in Detroit whites and Negroes looted in unity. It would be interesting to know how many family farms are left in America? Cause that's the basis of the scam.
What happened to the railroad the Brits built? In the late 80"s we would take the railroad from Nairobi to Diani Beach or Mombasa, although I think it was only once a day for passengers. The rest of the time it was a freight train. Ran just fine. Probably some politician looted it, just as they will this one. Kenyans are fine people, hard workers and almost as badly ruled by their psychopathic elites as we are,
Americans now reject Democrat values by large margins (The Atlantic).
Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture Kenya debt-trap fears: Tennessee Ernie sings, "Gonna owe your souls to the Chinese company store".
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