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Friday, June 15. 2018

Friday morning links

Construction Workers Find Rare Intact Roman Tomb


Salt Water New England visits Connecticut 


Bottled water companies looking to Connecticut tapwater 


 Why Glass Shape Affects the Taste of Champagne


I dislike champagne. I'm with Hillary - the only white wine I like is a cheap and creamy chardonnay


 What Ultimately Took Kate Spade And Anthony Bourdain Wasn’t Mental Illness. It Was Something Worse


Seems to me that it was relationship anger and despair 


The Plot Against Merit - Seeking racial balance, liberal advocates want to water down admissions standards at New York’s elite high schools.


 Tax preparers' loss is America's gain


 How Campus Bullies Pulled Off the Anti-Israel BDS Movement


 AMA UNSCIENTIFICALLY CALLS GUN VIOLENCE A "DISEASE"


Steyn:   "I'm thinking of walking into a kayak manufacturer and demanding he make me a gay wedding kayak."


More on  THE HIGH PRICE OF STALE GRIEVANCES


Tesla cuts 3,600 workers — 9 percent of its workforce — in bid to post a profit


Weekly Unemployment Claims Fall as Jobless Rolls Near 45-Year Low


Z-man:



 For a long time, I’ve made the point that the Republican Party is not really a political party, in the sense that it is a coalition held together by common interests. Instead, it is more like a dumping ground for politicians, who no longer fit in with the Democrats. 



The Dems:  Clintonite triangulation aimed at appealing to the broad middle is dead.


 Having Learned Nothing, Democrats Turn to Hollywood for Help in 2018 and 2020


Those Ignorant Hicks Ruin Everything


That means me


Also,  IG Report: FBI Agent Said Trump Voters 'Poor, Uneducated, Lazy, POS'


 12 Things You Need To Know About The Inspector General's DAMNING Report on The FBI's Hillary/Trump Conduct


FBI agent who wanted to ‘stop’ Trump has really just helped him


 'We’ll stop it': Justice Department inspector general says texting FBI lovers talked about keeping Trump from becoming president – yet insists there was no 'political bias' in Hillary Clinton email probe


And now  Meet the Other Amorous FBI Staffers Who Texted About the Clinton Email Investigatio


The Nation: The Mueller Indictments Still Don’t Add Up to Collusion - A year of investigations has led to several guilty pleas, but none of them go to the core of the special counsel’s mandate.


Guardian:  Donald Trump was right. The rest of the G7 were wrong


Trump’s Tariff Gambit - The president’s latest move harks back to an earlier era of truly free trade.


We are all globalnationalists now. Let's move past the false dichotomy of nationalism vs globalism


 San Juan Democrat Mayor Who Trashed Trump Now Under FBI Investigation over Distribution of Relief Supplies


Can we please give them independence even if against their will? 


 An Assessment of the Islamic State in 2018


They are done. Nice job, Trump and Mattis 


  Venezuelan Socialism Hasn’t Failed Because It ‘Has Never Been In Place’


 Europe’s ‘Axis Of The Willing’ Attempts To Seal The Borders

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ref: suicide

Suicide is a complex subject. People on the outside really may not understand what is happening in a person's mind or life. But sometimes we have a clue. Someone my wife knew killed himself after it became clear he was headed ino Alzheimers. I can fully understand that, there is a lot to be said for having a clean (potentially) painless death (opioids can do that) instead of dragging it out through years of suffering. Not just physical pain but mental anguish.. consider the schizophrenic who is constantly tormented by terrifying voices in his own head .. there is no escape, drugs sometimes help but often cause additional problems (which is why people stop taking them).

One of my private terrors is being kept alive in a hopeless situation against my will. My dog had a peaceful end of life but in most places, I cannot.
#1 jay on 2018-06-15 09:08 (Reply)
I have worked in acute psychiatric emergencies most of my forty year career. The hard part about suicide prevention is that a person only needs to go beneath the waves once. They can have some hope and recognition of support 99% of the time but the 1% is enough. Motives vary. Some commit suicide in despair, some in anger, some in anxiety, some in pain, and unfortunately, the approach for one is sometimes counterproductive for another. In the short run, the best thing a person nearby can do is remove the means of suicide: take the car keys, lock up the pills, get the guns over to an uncle's house. Next, break the spell. Get the person distracted from their endless hamster wheel of thinking about suicide and how miserable they are. I read last week - I think it was here - about a person who was distracted by a neighbor looking ridiculous while building a Buzz Lightyear costume. Such things are not uncommon.
#2 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-15 09:21 (Reply)
I remember reading a story some years ago about a cohort of individuals who had attempted suicide impulsively and for emotional reasons (i.e. not health or decline-related), and had survived the ordeal. These were mostly jumping-off-the-bridge types. The cohort was being studied to better understand their motivations I guess, but one of the findings was the discovery of a sense of immediate and profound regret that was felt once they had committed to the act. I seem to remember that it was common to most of the individuals within the group; if they could turn back the clock they would have. I had a aged relative who is in decline and deeply depressed, starting to 'question things' conversationally, and when I recounted this finding it had a strong impact. Maybe you know about this study, as a professional? I've looked for it casually but haven't come across it.
#2.1 Aggie on 2018-06-15 10:27 (Reply)
Try this 1978 study of people who survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge: http://seattlefriends.org/files/seiden_study.pdf
#2.1.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-15 12:38 (Reply)
Cheers.
#2.1.1.1 Aggie on 2018-06-15 18:35 (Reply)
Venezuela. One has to remember that socialism always works and fixes inequality. Therefore, if something doesn't work and fix inequality, it can't be socialism.

Socialism seems to only work when conditions are very favorable and everyone minding the store is honest, hardworking, smart, and reasonable. Fragile. If you ever find that country, let me know because I would like to move there. The free market seems to stumble along and sorta work even when manned by incompetents and selfish people. Resilient.
#3 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-15 09:32 (Reply)
For Socialism to work there must a high level of altruism, morals, integrity and loyalty. Each person must, by their own choice, work hard to produce to the best of their ability for the common good. They cannot be slackers or greedy. Each person must, by personal choice, take only the minimum for their needs, so as to provide the remainder to the sick, infirm, weak, and incapable. It is only thru a high personal level of altruism, loyalty to the group, humbleness, and service to humanity can Socialism work. To attempt to make socialism effective by force is to declare Socialism a failure and it becomes Communism.
#3.1 Blick on 2018-06-15 13:31 (Reply)
And the leftists would have us believe that none of us hicks are smart enough to operate guns or cars without slaughtering every innocent within miles, yet somehow a country would be able to function under socialism when everyone from top to bottom is an altruistic fellow traveler willing to put the community before themselves. Good luck with that one, comrade.
#3.1.1 Dangerous Dean on 2018-06-15 15:14 (Reply)
"What Ultimately Took Kate Spade And Anthony Bourdain Wasn’t Mental Illness."

Yes it was mental illness. It is probable that both were bi-polar . Sane people do not take their life especially in such bizarre ways. But what was really interesting is how far the author bent over backwards to blame it on everything else; "This is a broken world that neither they nor you nor I will ever be able to set right. Gunmen will continue to kill. Terrorists will bomb. Disease and poverty will ravage." That is a really strange rant. Buck up buttercup. The world has never been a safer better place than it is today.
#4 OneGuy on 2018-06-15 10:14 (Reply)
"This is a broken world that neither they nor you nor I will ever be able to set right. Gunmen will continue to kill. Terrorists will bomb. Disease and poverty will ravage."

A strange rant indeed!

None of the above affected the affluent, comfortable lifestyles of either Kate Spade or Anthony Bourdain in any way, other than the added security inconvenience at the airport before they got to the lounge to wait for their flight.
#4.1 JJM on 2018-06-15 11:33 (Reply)
"This is a broken world that neither they nor you nor I will ever be able to set right. Gunmen will continue to kill. Terrorists will bomb. Disease and poverty will ravage." None of the above affected the affluent, comfortable lifestyles of either Kate Spade or Anthony Bourdain in any way...

In a way that might be the point of the statement. If you believe evo-psych, we can assume worrying about things was one way we managed to stay alive as a species for thousands of years. Undoubtedly this trait is not distributed evenly across the population, we can observe that some people worry much more than others about things both profound and inconsequential. But once you remove the immediacy of having to worry about things that are really necessary for survival, that trait is likely to spin off on its own merry course. If you start to fixate on problems you have no reasonable chance to resolve without some way to control the emotions generated, you're asking for trouble.
#4.1.1 Christopher B on 2018-06-15 13:15 (Reply)
New York school admissions. There are so many current topics that would fit the Maggie‘s Farm content so perfectly, I can’t help but scratch my head at the idea of rehashing a story from 2014.
#5 Galway Boy on 2018-06-15 10:37 (Reply)
It's happening again with the top 7 schools in NYC.
#5.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-15 20:53 (Reply)
Suicide prevention. I'm all for it, But if you take a person who because of mental issues thrives on attention and one of the ways they get attention is threatening or "attempting" suicide what then does suicide prevention do? It gives them attention based on the fact that they might commit suicide. But they need more and more attention and how do they now get it? Simple; attempt suicide or act like they will. Fail to give them the attention they want and they will go to far and kill themselves. Wow! Who could have seen that coming?

Here is the thing, it isn't pretty or a solution it is simply the crappy truth: If you love that person so much that you can devote your life to keeping their mood up and catching them when they fall then do it and good luck. If on the other hand you have a job, a life, a family, other interests and there is simply no way you can devote 24 /7 to keep the potential suicide liability happy than walk away. You cannot live someone else's life and you cannot be their every second and when the inevitable happens your emotion and time wrapped up in trying to stop it will harm you deeply probably changing your life forever. So if you want to destroy two lives (maybe more, your spouse, your children as you ignore them to appease the crazy one) this is how you do it.
#6 TheRiver on 2018-06-15 11:07 (Reply)
There are a couple of different categories here. There is a particular diagnosis of people who engage in what we call parasuicidal behavior. Sometimes this is attention-seeking (they will describe it that way themselves - we no longer do); sometimes tension-relieving and private; sometimes habituated; sometimes manipulative. It is not easy to tell the difference.

People may go through a bad patch of being suicidal for a few months. But if it goes on for years it is more likely the result of having a personality disorder. The treatment for that is different.
#6.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-15 12:10 (Reply)
Dems want Hollywood help for upcoming elections: NEVER, EVER, interrupt your opponent when he's shooting his feet.
#7 Sam L. on 2018-06-15 11:17 (Reply)
G7 is in need of some changes

Just came across this short discussion of how the G7 has been in decline for decades and needs some rework. The authors suggest some changes in membership to better represent world GDP and population.

Germany, France and Italy - combined into a single EU seat opening up spots for China and India
Canada is out and Brazil is in

So is Trump a bull in a china shop or a wrench in the works to incentivize review and renewal of the process?
#8 JK Brown on 2018-06-15 11:48 (Reply)
Interesting isn't it that dem-leftists want to destroy so they can rebuild in their image. But when Trump disrupts the existing order, the dem-leftists do not like that strategy.
#8.1 blick on 2018-06-15 12:12 (Reply)
The headline for the tomb story should have been: 'Researchers bugger up intact Roman tomb'
#9 SgtBob (Link) on 2018-06-15 12:56 (Reply)
For Assistant Village Idiot:

There is so much work to be done with this subject. My own experience with the most beloved of humans is this: early childhood abuse lasts a lifetime unless examined and dealt with in a shared inquiry situation. If the individual insists on trying to repair the damage themselves (I'am smart enough to fix this) then the necessary relief never comes. I don't spend every day waiting for the shoe to drop, but I have watched for years as the deep down pain is carried with courage and grace.
#10 apple pie on 2018-06-15 13:38 (Reply)
Childhood abuse is common. But what, exactly, is childhood abuse. I was terribly abused as a child I can remember my mother going to school and telling the teacher in front of me that she would support the teacher and make sure I did my homework every night. The abuse! When I became a teen my parents wouldn't let me hang out with certain kids, Geeez! I had my rights taken away from me when I acted up in school. I had a terrible childhood, but years later I thanked my parents for being strict.

Oh, but you probably mean beatings or sexual abuse. Well sure that would be abuse too but IMHO many of the people who "claim" to have been abused in this way lie. I mean they also make other bizarre claims that turn out to be untrue. Now I don't conclude that physical and sexual abuse of children does not exist. On the contrary I think it is very common, perhaps 50%. BUT, the ones who complain the loudest seem to have so many other problems and the majority who were abused managed to adjust to life and keep their past unfortunate events to themselves. So what I'm saying is probably most people who claim childhood abuse (whether it is real or not, doesn't matter) have many other things going on in their life such that it is obvious they are a few bricks shy of a full load. And they need and use this past abuse to keep themselves relevant and get attention.

My first reaction when some celebrity (it is typically a celebrity) comes out and claims to have been "abused" as a child is what in the hell are you telling this to the world for? And then it's "oh wait" they needed more attention and this did it for them.
#10.1 Anon on 2018-06-15 18:20 (Reply)
There was a cartoon, quite some years ago, where the young man was -as I recall - throwing himself about and saying something to the effect of: "How could you, you brought me up normally!!".

Actually, that's what most parents do; not always appreciated by the offsprings.
#10.1.1 Frances (Link) on 2018-06-15 23:36 (Reply)
Hey AMA, if you want to save almost 1,000,000 people a year, let's talk about the "disease" of abortion.

What?

Silence.

Thought so.
#11 Dangerous Dean on 2018-06-15 15:17 (Reply)
The AMA has been allied with the gun grabbers for years so their conclusions are predictable. They believe that guns are like germs. Germs cause disease and guns cause violence so if you eliminate germs you prevent disease and if you eliminate guns you prevent violence. I suggest you read the article "Guns and Public Health: Epidemic of Violence or Pandemic of Propaganda" by professor Don Kates et al. It was published in the Tennessee Law Review in 1994 and can be found online.
#12 Ray on 2018-06-15 16:01 (Reply)
An addendum to:
12 Things You Need To Know About The Inspector General's ...

QUOTE:
The IG gives a reason for the excuses not to be believed; gives a reason for the FBI finally taking action; but it never gives the reason why the Clinton email review was not undertaken….. the report leaves the actual biggest point as a dangling question.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/15/ig-report-fbi-lawyer-1-tashina-gauhar-and-the-huma-weiner-laptop-issues/#more-150619
#13 drowningpuppies on 2018-06-15 20:49 (Reply)

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