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I think that what is missing from these calculations is a simple logical truth. If the illegals (and the legal immigrants) were never allowed into the country THEN 100% of the crimes they commit would never have happened. illegal immigrants kill roughly 3000 people in this country every year. They would all have lived if we were serious about illegal immigration. Every rape, child molestation, murder, robbery and fight committed by illegals could have been avoided.

When you add the hundreds of billions of dollars that could have been saved or better spent that is wasted to incarcerate illegals and feed and house illegals the savings to this country in lives and money would be astronomical if we would simply vigorously enforce our laws.

#1.1 OneGuy on 2018-04-19 17:58 (Reply)

Hi A.V.I. Not sayin' you're wrong, just that I can't make the numbers work. US prison population is about 2.3 million, out of 327 million is a rate of 0.70% overall. US illegal population is estimated at about 11.3 million, so the incarceration rate for them would be about 0.31%, right? All of this was just scraping numbers off Google, so... no guarantees. Would like to understand this better though: I've helped 3 people get their green cards over the years because they were solid proto-citizen types.

#2 Aggie on 2018-04-19 09:05 (Reply)

Aggie, your numbers are incorrect. Twenty years ago, the 12 million illegals in the US was the standard number and that false number stays in the public forum because the MSM pushes it. My friends whose kids worked as cops in the Miami laughed at the 12 million and estimated that in Miami alone, the city, not the county, there were over 3 million illegals.

In Idaho, illegals don't show up before a Federal Grand Jury unless they have committed at least three (3) felony acts. They go to the city or county slammer and are released to cause more havoc on the US population. Those who are deported are back in the US of A in short time.

The true figure is closer to 30 million illegals stealing from the citizens of the US.

#2.1 Dave on 2018-04-19 12:19 (Reply)

You see the problem though, I guess? If the numbers of illegal aliens that are out in general population are much much higher, then the incarceration rate would be much much lower, inversely proportional. What I am saying is, even with the assumption of the lower number, the rates don't compare. The incarceration rates are already lower than those of US citizens. Hence the question.

#2.1.1 Aggie on 2018-04-19 20:50 (Reply)

Aggie, one reason the numbers don't work out well is because of how illegals are reported if reported at all as illegals. For example, Florida doesn't list citizenship/immigration status in their stats. They do list country of origin which gives a hint as to their illegal status in the US of A.

Also, often illegal criminal activity isn't even reported. Consider the illegal, under the influence, who rear ended a friend's daughter. He was taken to the cop shop and released. Of course, he booked and it was listed as unknown driver.

The number of illegals committing felony offenses is extremely high and the last administration spent considerable effort to cover up illegals doing the work that Americans just wouldn't do -- murder, rape, armed robbery and so on.

The numbers don't work, because politicians don't want to be tared and feathered if the truth were made clear to Joe Public.

#2.1.1.1 Dave on 2018-04-20 00:36 (Reply)

Re Funding and education:
TO me the problem seems to be not so much that too much or too little funding, or that more funding necessarily produces negative results, but that as more money becomes available, the less effectively it is spent.

#3 another guy named Dan on 2018-04-19 10:24 (Reply)

"bird-frying solar power"

in 1973 I took a tour of "Solar I" an experimental concentrating solar power generation facility in Southern California. While on the tour two birds did fly into the almost invisible concentrated sunlight and died instantly in mid-air. What are the odds that what I saw was rare? I did see numerous bird bodies on the ground around the tower that was the focus of the energy.

#4 GoneWithTheWind on 2018-04-19 10:48 (Reply)

Re: "Sweden’s violent reality"
Sweden is reaping the benefit of liberalism. I suspect that early on in this immigration/invasion fiasco the Swedish politicians were trying to prove how generous and tolerant Sweden was as a lesson to the rest of the 1st world. I do not think they had any clue how bad this would go for them. The elite live in an ivory tower and to some extent they actually believe the lies they spout to their huddled masses that they rule over. Now they have open borders and the inevitable result of that decision is anarchy. It is just a matter of time as the problem grows until their will be open civil war. As goes Sweden so goes the rest of Europe. Will the U.S. be next? We have been on the same path for awhile and our day of reckoning is coming too.

#5 TheRiver on 2018-04-19 10:58 (Reply)

I have to wonder if (or maybe when) Swedish men will access their inner Vikings.

#5.1 Sam L. on 2018-04-19 11:41 (Reply)

My son lived in Sweden for two years some time back. He loved the people and the country (aside from the long, dark winters) but upon his return he commented about how the "womb to the tomb" socialist state has produced people with little incentive to excel or have initiative. One man confided how unemployment was "really working out well" for him.

I'm afraid that Viking blood has been sorely diluted over the generations.

#5.1.1 Rivetjoint on 2018-04-19 13:56 (Reply)

Seems to me that criminal illegal aliens are in prison because they're criminals.

#6 Sam L. on 2018-04-19 11:39 (Reply)

The article about sitting just made the case for every kid out there who hates school..."See? Sitting in class all day makes my brain atrophy!"

LOL.

I find this kind of stuff to be quite silly. We have to sit. We sit to eat, read, watch tv, work at a desk, do crafts, fix things, attend church.

Telling someone sitting is going to atrophy their brain...? Well, I just don't buy it. Sorry.

I use my brain a LOT at work. My job is very mentally taxing. In fact, the reason I do it, is that I enjoy the challenge. If that is atrophying my brain...well, guess I'm screwed.

How are you supposed to learn if you can't sit down and read or study? Doesn't learning develop the brain?

Something doesn't make sense here.

#7 MissT on 2018-04-19 11:40 (Reply)

Rein in student mobs...For universities that can't seem to find a way to control student behavior it would be fitting to simply deny any student loans to students at that university. They made rules years ago that denied colleges and universities, such as Hillsdale, any access to student loans for their students if they did not comply with certain government mandated rules. Use the same rule making to deny belligerent institutions the right of their students to access student loans. Need safe spaces...no loans, allow disruption of speakers...no loans, disrupt classes...no loans. Don't like the new rules?...I feel your pain.

#8 indyjonesouthere on 2018-04-19 13:30 (Reply)

Re: DeVos

I have been a college professor for two decades. I am willing to try it, but I would bet that you could pay everyone 100 times what you do now and students won't learn 100 times more. Money has very little to do with learning unless the money is wisely spent. Good textbooks. Good professors. Safe, clean classroom. These are necessary.

My experiences with public schools both today and when I was in one 30 years ago have shown me that a lot of the teachers there are incompetent. I know that if we paid them more they wouldn't suddenly become better teachers. You know that. Yet we hear again and again that the problem with public schools is lack of funding. Horse bleep.

Hire and retain good teachers. Give them the power to discipline their students (and kick out those who disrupt classes...like I did occasionally when I was in school, I am sorry to say). Give parents vouchers to let their kids escape failing or dangerous schools.

Then watch the system improve. Yes, some kids will still fail. That is a shame, but many people aren't on track for college anyway. And no system will meet the needs of every student.

But the majority of students will get better education at the same time that teachers will enjoy a better classroom setting.

Only the people who stand to lose when Big Education fails are against choice and reasonable standards. I am looking at you, Randi Weingarten.

#9 Dangerous Dean on 2018-04-19 15:58 (Reply)

DD, have you ever taught or received distance learning? While some may not think that it is as good as classroom, it works wonderfully. DoD has used distance learning for eons with good results.

That being said, the Powers That Be in education are not interested in educating. The mantra that I hear is that teacher salary isn't high enough to keep good teachers. Well, we live in the age of Dick Tracy now and the best math teacher could be live streamed to classrooms state wide with the local math teacher helping individual students in the streaming class. The same can be done for other studies -- but not so much for shop class.

All the school districts want fancy tech but don't really want to use it to really help students improve.

#9.1 Dave on 2018-04-19 16:58 (Reply)

I am retired and rather enjoy taking on line classes from Hillsdale college. They are more fun than the classroom instruction I had in college.

#9.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2018-04-19 21:37 (Reply)

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Thursday, April 19. 2018

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