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Sunday, January 22. 2017Nationalism!
I think The Donald views himself as having been hired as CEO to run a company called USA. Perhaps, for now, with a TRUMP logo on it. He told the Board of Directors (citizens) what his plans were, and they voted to hire him, along with a Repub Congress and Senate. If he doesn't put "America First," he should be fired. I guess that is "nationalism." From Noonan: President Trump Declares Independence. His message to America: Remember those things I said in the campaign? I meant them. I meant it all. Also, Bill Kristol: ‘It’s profoundly depressing and vulgar to hear an American president proclaim America first’ Unrelated but of note: Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington - What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the Women’s March? Turns out, it’s quite significant
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'It’s profoundly depressing and vulgar to hear an American president proclaim America first
Faux outrage to be sure but for what purpose? Does he prefer 'make America mediocre again or still"? Zach thinks (well I'm not sure Zach actually 'thinks') "make America great again" is anti-semitic or something. I do wonder if he believed that when Democrat politicians said it. One thing about Trump - one of his strengths and weaknesses too is that he says what he thinks. He simply could not be anti-anything and hide it. Unlike Obama who talks out of one side of his mouth while he is stabbing you in the back. Speaking of Obama; did you hear his plane got diverted by... wait for it... the end of global warming caused droughts? Is this a great day for America or what? California went from it's cyclical season of too dry to it's cyclical season of too wet soon to be followed by it's cyclical season of too muddy. Hint to those of you living in Southern California in places that tend to flood: Rent a U-haul, load up your important stuff, move it to storage on high ground somewhere. This will save you a lot of heartache when the flood comes. Yes I lived in California and yes I had to evacuate when the biggest fire came through burning hundreds of houses. I did it quickly without even looking back at my neighbor on his roof with the garden hose. Come-on! Seriously! Did anyone really believe these biblical rains weren't coming??? "Hint to those of you living in Southern California in places that tend to flood: Rent a U-haul, load up your important stuff, move it to storage on high ground somewhere."
I suggest Utah, or South Dakota, or maybe Texas. No, NO, No, don't send any more of them to Texas. Austin is full already and they are overflowing.
I live in California. I do no intent on moving anywhere. I've seen the poison of California political refugee that have contaminated other states. I'm taking one for the team.
Bill Kristol has pretty much destroyed his magazine. I wonder of Murdoch, if he still owns it, has regrets?
I don't mind criticism of Trump but National Review and The Weekly Standard went on suicide missions. IdahoBob: Zach thinks (well I'm not sure Zach actually 'thinks') "make America great again" is anti-semitic or something.
The slogan at issue is "America First", which was used in the U.S. by nativists before WWII. As for "Make America Great Again", the phrase can be problematic for minorities and women who don't really want to return to a time when their rights were far less recognized than they are today. It also implies that the U.S. is not currently great, even though it is the richest and most powerful nation in the world. I assume that those nativist also used the toilet are you in favor of outlawing those as well? Or perhaps you think because someone uses a toilet that they are thus a nativist.
“the phrase can be problematic for minorities and women”. I guess depending on how you choose to interpret it that anything at all can be problematic for the always offended crowd. Seriously do you believe anyone wants to return to slavery or make women cook over a campfire??? If he can take America back from the globalists and the financialists as well as the special interests, including identity politics, to put the well being of all Americans first, I'm good. This is what I think Trump means.
Remember what Eisenhower said of the Military/Industrial Complex; I think, today, he'd warn of the Global/ Financial/ Special Interest Industrial Complex and their millions of minions in academia and media, along with lobbyists and other hangers on. Remember those things I said in the campaign? I meant them. I meant it all.
This was an open strike against the globalist elite. Remember, the American Revolution didn't start out as a revolution. It was simply a call to the British king and Parliament to return to the values enshrined in Magna Carta, the English Bill of Rights, etc. Somehow people are hearing "America First" as if he were saying "America is the only country that counts." For me it's more like a healthy person who acknowledges that he's responsible for taking care of himself. He doesn't mean he doesn't care about his neighbor, only that no one else is supposed to be in charge of looking after his own interests. He's not going to make a career out of being a martyr. He nevertheless hopes and intends to strike bargains with his neighbors that help all parties to the negotiations, because that's the point of deals--if you don't make the mistake of thinking that the other guy is going to bargain for you at the same time he is bargaining for himself. In the psych field, they call it boundaries, right?
"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?" Seems to me President Trump is channeling this saying when he refers to "America First".
I assumed that Kristol was trying to tie Trump's "America First" to Lindbergh's "America First" and all that it entails, such as the isolationism and the wiff of being pro Germany. To be sure, there was some admiration for Hitler's economic successes, among America's elites in the 30s. Though' I think the hindsight is 20/20 crowd was a bit disingenuous, and fell for the historical fallacy of Presentism, they did succeed in tainting the phrase "America First". I would think that Kristol is aware of this.
'It’s profoundly depressing and vulgar to hear an American president proclaim America first ..."
If it's depressing and vulgar to stand up for the welfare of one's citizens, one's national independence, one's liberal culture, and one's body of Constitutional law, then I fear Mr Kristol is going to have to drown himself in antidepressants. I'm actually surprised that someone as bright as Kristol is misinterpreting Trump's meaning. Live and learn. I don't think he's misinterpreting it. I think he means exactly to squeeze what he can out of the criticism of Lindbergh. On it's face MAGA is a positive statement. Something else is implied by Kristol to suggest vulgarity.
QUOTE: The zz' inability to form value judgements outside the confirmation bias of zz' programmers is showing. zz misspelled "Socialism".
That's YOUR kind of nationalism.
This is my kind of nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kOEg55vewU IdahoBob: That's YOUR kind of nationalism.
No. It's A kind of nationalism. Of course, not all forms of nationalism are pernicious. IdahoBob: This is my kind of nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kOEg55vewU Can you explain the difference? IdahoBob: Not in a million years.
Didn't think so.
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