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Saturday, November 12. 2016Saturday morning linksThe True Story of Hacksaw Ridge and Desmond Doss: the Medal of Honor Winner Who Never Fired a Shot Illegal immigrant border crossings reach highest number in two years United Pilot Announces Passengers Must Keep Politics Off the Plane, Whole Cabin Cheers Schools offer counseling to help students process Trump win I'd suggest free beer instead Or maybe free unlimited Tequila shots Democrats Embrace Their Radicalism Michael Moore: They Voted For A Guy Named ‘Hussein’ Twice, Trump Voters Are Not Racist Obviously. But a Trump election might be, in part, a repudiation of SJW loonies in general. Don’t give Trump so much credit, America The GOP: America’s Party Trump: America's First Citizen President In America now only normal people can see the obvious. Everyone else is lost in a data-filled fog. Hillary wins the popular vote – not Safety-pin symbolism First fruits of the Trump Era: Strange new respect for checks and balances The press’ insane election smugness, Clinton’s Catholic disaster, and other commentary 'The Basket of Deplorables' and Political Science: New at Reason - Donald Trump stands out in particular as the populist par excellence, say political scientists Comments
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QUOTE: Trump forces black family from home Actually, they were planning to move out anyway. Back the the 1970s, though, Trump Enterprises used to put the letter "C" on rental applications so they would know not to rent to "colored" people. Hillary Clinton and her lawyer used to erase "c" on her email so she could pretend it wasn't classified and she hadn't committed a national security felony.
sorry, Zachie Babies:
CBS News: "Part of the exchange is redacted, so the context of the emails is unknown, but at one point, Sullivan tells Clinton that aides "say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it." Clinton responds, "If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure."" Jim: Clinton responds, "If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure."
This is why professional investigators and courts adjudicate legal claims. As Comey testified that he learned during the investigation, the expression “nonpaper” is a term of art in the State Department for stripping classified information from an email.
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Zachriel
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2016-11-13 09:10
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QUOTE: Hillary wins the popular vote ... But the Electoral College brilliantly smooths out the variances in the voting proclivities among states and regions. A voter in Wyoming has 3½ times the influence in the Electoral College as a voter in California, and 68 times the influence in the Senate. It's hardly brilliant, but a quaint vestige of a time when most people couldn't vote, and it took a long time to travel from one end of the country to the other. Without the EC there would have been no United States.
The small states were and still are wary of being dominated by the large ones. feeblemind: Without the EC there would have been no United States.
Sure, it was a compromise solution, along with counting slaves as 3/5 for purposes of apportionment, including in the Electoral College. It was also a recognition that the states were sovereign. Thus, they (and the people) were given the powers that the Federal government was denied.
Zachies, see they've updated your (second person plural) meme software.
That's the way the system is supposed to work, Zach babies. And by the way, a Senator from Hawaii has just as much power as a Senator from California, even though California is 100 times larger. It's called constitutional federalism, to keep the states from being overwhelmed by a concentration of rats in a couple of small urban areas. Jim: It's called constitutional federalism, to keep the states from being overwhelmed by a concentration of rats in a couple of small urban areas.
Using the term "rats" only undermines whatever point you thought you were making. It implies you don't think people who live in urban areas are even people, much less people deserve equal representation. Zach, that looks about right - People in Montana are about 3 times smarter than those in California, who elected Moonbeam for their governor, who has spent billions on a train with no tracks by giving taxpayer money to his friends. Here is a quick, back of the envelope calculation that californians aren't smart enough to do, but people in Montana can.
You have $billion dollars. How many hours of topflight civil engineer and structural engineer time at $150/hour can you buy with this money? = $7,000,000,000 divided by $150 = 35,000,000 hours. 35 million hours of honest work !!!! How many crooked payoffs can you make from a $7 billion taxpayer fund? = lots of them How many miles of track can be built in a crooked democrat administration with $7 billion dollars? = none. jaybird: People in Montana are about 3 times smarter than those in California ... You have $billion dollars
Median household income in California is $67,000. Median household income in Montana is $44,000. Money isn't necessarily a measure of intelligence, but you were the one who brought it up.
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Zachriel
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2016-11-12 16:08
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Very early in my career I thought I was underpaid, but there were no published salary comparisons for my field. I decided to do my own salary survey, and through extensive use of contacts and friends of contacts managed to find I think virtually all of the about ~80 people nationwide doing the same sort of thing I was doing. 68 agreed to tell me salary, years of experience, years in current post, and educational background. I thought that was a pretty good response rate.
Along the way, someone said that I ought to include the cost-of-living multiplier from respondents' metropolitan areas in my calculations. I learned from this that (even at my low pay in greater podunkville,) I likely had more disposable income after taxes, housing, transportation, and food than any of my colleagues on the coasts, even though their income more than doubled mine. I ended up moving back abroad for 15 years. I just drop this in as a reference point for the intelligence/pay/state-of-residence calculus.
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Douglas2
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2016-11-12 17:00
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Zachie, you do realize the cost of living in California is almost 3 times higher than it is in Montana?
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Jim
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2016-11-12 22:12
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Jim: you do realize the cost of living in California is almost 3 times higher than it is in Montana?
Cost of Living index California, 135.9 Montana, 100.8 Which is about ⅓ higher. But California is a very large place, so the cost of living will be much higher in Los Angeles than in a small town in the San Joaquin Valley. In any case, there's an economic impact to high GDP, even when costs are high.
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Zachriel
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2016-11-13 09:19
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Otherwise known as democracy, Jim, water to the oil Z-Bot(s) run(s) on.
QUOTE: Obama is repeating Eisenhower’s mistakes in the Middle East Most U.S. presidents have misread the Middle East. Reagan policies made the U.S. increasingly dependent on Middle East oil, while enriching authoritarians in the region. Bush, of course, invaded Iraq, imploding the Middle East, and strengthening Iran. Obama has tried to avoid direct intervention, but has often misread the situation. Only Bush père seemed to have been able to navigate the complexities of the region, the Gulf War strengthening the U.S., revitalizing U.S. alliances around the world, as well as reaffirming international law. Trump doesn't seem to have a clue. He apparently didn't understand why the U.S. doesn't use nuclear weapons, and has said he wants to unilaterally pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, which would only further advance Iranian interests. For the first time in history a white billionaire will move into public housing replacing a black family.
Well, keep in mind that it is the first time that a black occupied the residence. Previously, it was occupied by rich white men and their families.
how are you personally handling your election Fail?
are you coping? do you need a safe space? Will Bithers: how are you personally handling your election Fail?
You mean the U.S. presidential election? The U.S. chose an unrepentant bigot as president, as is their privilege. Is that what you mean by failure? "The U.S. chose an unrepentant bigot as president" true. And now his term in office is drawing to a close, and Donald Trump will assume office as the 45th President of the United States.
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OldFert
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2016-11-12 13:42
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"F*ing Jew bastard!"
"...That G**damned n****r. " - Hillary Rodham Clinton
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mudbug
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2016-11-12 14:29
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There is no public record of such statements, which are only supported by hearsay. That compares to Trump who repeatedly has made bigoted statements publicly.
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Zachriel
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2016-11-12 14:36
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They and statements like them were personally witnessed by former colleagues such as Dick Morris and girl friend Dolly Kyle and described in books they wrote. To be fair, I found out from further research that the quote using the 'n-word" was actually attributed to Bill and not Hillary, but it is in keeping with Hillary's racism since it was recently recounted by a former White House chef that she used the term to refer to a black servant.
Since the subject was racism, I didn't mention when Hillary called handicapped CHILDREN, "f*ing retards." Oooh! I can really feel her love for children!
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mudbug
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2016-11-12 15:09
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Reply below.
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Zachriel
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2016-11-12 17:04
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Not exactly. Many presidents were not wealthy - Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Lincoln, and Truman for example.
mudbug: Many presidents were not wealthy - Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Lincoln, and Truman for example.
Jefferson owned slaves and lived in a mansion. Monroe also owned slaves and worked a large plantation. We'll give you Lincoln and Truman, though. They inherited their slaves. Jefferson died $100,000 in debt and Dolly Madison was only saved from destitution by Congressional action.
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mudbug
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2016-11-12 15:29
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mudbug: Jefferson died $100,000 in debt
That he squandered his wealth doesn't mean he wasn't wealthy. Now compare his mansion, Monticello, with the slave quarters on his property, who were sold to settle his bill for wine and other expenses. mudbug: Dolly Madison was only saved from destitution by Congressional action. Same story. Madison lived in a mansion, squandered his wealth, then sold or leased his slaves to maintain his lavish lifestyle. His wife, Dolley, did suffer later in life, but sold his papers for a considerable sum.
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Zachriel
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2016-11-12 15:56
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Dude, show some balls for once on this thing and just admit your preference for president took a freaking beating, as did your Party, suck it up and SFTU for once in your life.
Go have a beer or a hundred. You sound like a little girl. QUOTE: Hillary wins the popular vote – not ... If the number of outstanding absentee ballots wouldn’t influence the election results, then the absentee ballots aren’t counted. That is false. Depending on the state, absentee ballots are counted before or within a few days after the election. QUOTE: there were 2 million absentee ballots in California alone. California counts absentee ballots before the election. Clinton is now about 600,000 votes ahead. It is expected the margin will increase.
who gives a shit? is this stroke material for your peace of mind. Hillary is gone, she's not coming back. You people lost the house, senate, presidency and two maybe three USSC nominations, innumerable trial and appellate level appointments. you lost legislation and rule making control.
you lost big time, grow a pair a deal with it. Will Bithers: who gives a shit?
Apparently the writer of the article, and Maggie's Farm which posted the article. its bait for guthooked libtards like you.
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Will Bithers
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2016-11-12 14:53
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Most states don't. And they never count the military vote unless the margin of error is close enough in a state. The military vote surely was overwhelmingly Trump, since 70% of the military believe Clinton would be incompetent as a commander in chief.
Jim: Most states don't.
That is false. Depending on the state, absentee ballots are counted before or within a few days after the election. Military votes are counted as absentee ballots. Though there are still significant obstacles for those military personnel stationed overseas, when they do vote, they are counted. While I am glad that Desmond Doss's story is the subject of a major motion picture, what Doss did transcends Hollywood, and his Medal of Honor citation is what you really want to read:
Rank and organization: Private First Class, United States Army, Medical Detachment, 307th Infantry, 77th Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Urasoe Mura, Okinawa, Ryukyu Islands, April 29, 1945 – May 21, 1945. Entered service at: Lynchburg, Virginia Birth: Lynchburg, Virginia G.O. No.: 97, November 1, 1945. The President of the United States of America, in the name of Congress, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to Private First Class Desmond Thomas Doss, United States Army, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action above and beyond the call of duty from April 29 – 21 May 1945, while serving with the Medical Detachment, 307th Infantry Regiment, 77th Infantry Division, in action at Urasoe Mura, Okinawa, Ryukyu Islands. Private First Class Doss was a company aid man when the 1st Battalion assaulted a jagged escarpment 400 feet high. As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar and machine gun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying all 75 casualties one-by-one to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands. On May 2, he exposed himself to heavy rifle and mortar fire in rescuing a wounded man 200 yards forward of the lines on the same escarpment; and 2 days later he treated 4 men who had been cut down while assaulting a strongly defended cave, advancing through a shower of grenades to within eight yards of enemy forces in a cave's mouth, where he dressed his comrades' wounds before making 4 separate trips under fire to evacuate them to safety. On May 5, he unhesitatingly braved enemy shelling and small arms fire to assist an artillery officer. He applied bandages, moved his patient to a spot that offered protection from small arms fire and, while artillery and mortar shells fell close by, painstakingly administered plasma. Later that day, when an American was severely wounded by fire from a cave, Pfc. Doss crawled to him where he had fallen 25 feet from the enemy position, rendered aid, and carried him 100 yards to safety while continually exposed to enemy fire. On May 21, in a night attack on high ground near Shuri, he remained in exposed territory while the rest of his company took cover, fearlessly risking the chance that he would be mistaken for an infiltrating Japanese and giving aid to the injured until he was himself seriously wounded in the legs by the explosion of a grenade. Rather than call another aid man from cover, he cared for his own injuries and waited 5 hours before litter bearers reached him and started carrying him to cover. The trio was caught in an enemy tank attack and Pfc. Doss, seeing a more critically wounded man nearby, crawled off the litter; and directed the bearers to give their first attention to the other man. Awaiting the litter bearers' return, he was again struck, by a sniper bullet while being carried off the field by a comrade, this time suffering a compound fracture of one arm. With magnificent fortitude he bound a rifle stock to his shattered arm as a splint and then crawled 300 yards over rough terrain to the aid station. Through his outstanding bravery and unflinching determination in the face of desperately dangerous conditions Pfc. Doss saved the lives of many soldiers. His name became a symbol throughout the 77th Infantry Division for outstanding gallantry far above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks for posting. We'll also check out the motion picture, Hacksaw Ridge, as directed by Mel Gibson.
I was hoping you'd stay off this thread and not pollute it with your presence.
Please do not trash this man, you understand none of this. QUOTE: RUSH: I’m gonna make a prediction that in the final analysis of the electorate — and it takes a long time. Michael Barone does this and does a book every year updating as much detail about turnout, where people voted and why. It’s in-depth. You know what they’re gonna find? I will predict that before this is all said and done, a lot of illegal aliens will be found to have voted, in the millions. You wait. Let me rephrase it. I won’t be surprised if this happens, and it will be enough to blow apart whatever theory these people have that Hillary won the popular vote, because you’ll have to take those illegal votes out, and when that happens, she will not have won anything. Popular vote, Electoral College. Don’t doubt me. http://dailyrushbo.com/limbaugh-predicts-millions-of-illegal-aliens-will-be-found-to-have-voted/ This is no accident. The Democrat party has greased the skids for illegals to enter the country AND for them to vote. That always was the plan and that is why we have motor-voter and no wall. California has already been overwhelmed by this and it is unlikely to ever have an honest election again. As California goes so goes the nation. The Democrats will flood the country with illegal and legal immigrants until it will be impossible to ever have a honest election in any state again. If you object Zach and his ilk will call you names.
Yes indeed GWTW.
A piece at the American Thinker site the other day stated that Romney beat 0bama by 2.5% if only the legal votes were counted. I was cautiously optimistic about Trump's chances before the election but I speculated voter fraud might defeat him. The repubs need to make it a priority to restore integrity to the election process. mudbug: They and statements like them were personally witnessed by former colleagues such as Dick Morris and girl friend Dolly Kyle and described in books they wrote.
Morris is not credible on the Clintons. Considering the amount of hyperventilization with regards to the Clintons, you would need to have supporting evidence to make a reasonable case. That is assuming you think claims should be substantiated rather than felt to be true. - truthiness, the quality of seeming or being felt to be true, even if not necessarily true. It's always been amazing to me that the word of previous supporters, advisers, and lovers is deemed to be unworthy of trust, but the word of some person who claims to have been accosted by Trump thirty years ago with no substantiation is a valid news story.
Dolly Kyle was Bill Clinton's lover. Dick Morris was a trusted adviser who managed several of his campaigns - including his presidential campaign (both I think). Juanita Broderick was a supporter (before she was raped) and Kathleen Wiley was a volunteer for his campaign. When they say something against the beknighted Clintons, they become liars. If those people had stepped up and said what a saint Bill or Hillary were, they would be evidence of that sainthood. The fact that you aren't willing to believe the fact that somebody has seen and tell about what you don't want to believe just shows how invested you are in your own truthiness. Go play in the traffic. Re: Democrats Embrace Their Radicalism
The article was about electing Keith Ellison to head the DNC but it mentions the recent riots (interesting to find out who is rejecting the election now that it didn't go their way). It's not much of a shock that George Soros is in the middle of this violence, but what is also interesting is that the Progress Unity Fund - a 501(c)3 organization is part of it, too. My guess is that they found it much easier to get their IRS classification than the Tea Party groups did (some of them are still waiting for their classification). RE: United Pilot Announces Passengers Must Keep Politics Off the Plane.
No what really happened is a black woman started with racist sh&t against a white guy and the results is that the captain didn't call HER out, instead he called everyone out. This is a part of black female privilege. That faux NY Times cover is quite funny.
However, therein lies the rub: The Times has a serious sense-of-humour deficiency and is so full of its own gravitas. That, more than even an obviously bogus headline, is the giveaway that it's a fake! Now I could see this in The Rumford Meteor. |
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