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Wednesday, July 20. 2016How many dead bodies on the streets of Europe will it take for leftists to realize that we are at war?
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And nothing will change. I don't really think things will change until the terrorists use a nuke. That's when some places will submit and others will start throwing real punches.
I pretty much concur.
Infrequently occurring attacks causing a couple hundred casualties in a country of 10s of millions is statistically not enough to change the attitudes of the ruling class. The governing caste won't act until it starts biting them in the a$$. Remember, above and beyond the human tragedy, 9-11 was an act of economic war. Remember the powers that be urging people to continue a fly, to travel, to go to malls and amusement parks?
When asked why the French plant their trees in rows along the roads?
'Cause the Germans like to march in the shade. I am at a loss to understand the European leadership/politicians. What would be different if they were all traitors attempting to flood their countries with the enemy? They are not acting in a rational way. Even the majority of citizens are not acting in a rational way. I do think that unless the terrorists/Muslims make a terrible mistake and use WMDs or something that the Europeans will indeed let the massive immigration continue until the Muslims reach a number that will allow them to take over. That is they can boil the frog if they are careful not to wake the frog up (no pun intended towards the French).
The French - notwithstanding what Americans might think about their present socialist government - are far more tough-minded and frank about Islamic terrorism than the US is (and certainly more so than my country - Canada).
Yeah. They're so tough minded, they're a target every month of another ISIS assault. They're so tough minded and frank, they can't police Muslim neighborgoods in Paris wearing uniforms. They're so tough minded the Prime Minister told the nation they'll have to get used to terrorism.
They get any more frank, won't be much left to be tough about. QUOTE: How many dead bodies on the streets of Europe will it take for leftists to realize that we are at war? The French currently have their forces over Syria attacking ISIS, and recently had ground forces in Mali fighting Islamic extremists there. They also fought and died in Afghanistan alongside the Americans. The French seem to be quite aware of the military component of the conflict. Part of the realization that you're at war is that you don't allow the enemy into the gates.
But you may open your gates to refugees from war-torn provinces, especially those with whom you have a long-time history.
You may invite "refugees" into your gate, but I would not consider that you are at war if you have no controls to make sure those "refugees" are really on your side. BTW, most of those refugees are military aged men and many if not most of them have no interested in your values, traditions, or laws.
Mass immigration without assimilation is an invasion. mudbug: You may invite "refugees" into your gate, but I would not consider that you are at war if you have no controls to make sure those "refugees" are really on your side.
Most, if not all, countries do have controls in place. However, that won't stop radicalization of the existing population. And some people will inevitably slip through. You wouldn't want to admit any Jews escaping from the Nazis because some of them may be radicals. Guess you could live in fear of the world. mudbug: Mass immigration without assimilation is an invasion. You apparently have little confidence in western culture. In fact, western culture is so powerful, it is assimilating most of the world. That's why you see "I♥NY" baseball caps in Beijing, KFC in Tokyo, and Kenyan goat herders checking commodity prices on their iPhones. http://travel.cnn.com/tokyo/eat/mcdonalds-vs-kfc-japan-christmas-meals-591494/
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Zachriel
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2016-07-21 17:26
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There is no way to vet the number of immigrants that are flooding into Europe and nothing to vet them against. It's the same problem here.
Talk to the Swedes, Germans, French, and English about how well they're assimilating. They live in enclaves where they do what they want when nobody's looking. They have so little interest in assimilating that they are requiring the host country to change its laws and customs to accommodate them. The incidence of rape in those countries, especially Sweden, has exploded.
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2016-07-21 19:37
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mudbug: Talk to the Swedes, Germans, French, and English about how well they're assimilating.
Opinions are mixed. Most everyone recognizes the problem of integration, especially education and jobs. The large influx is certainly putting a strain on resources. mudbug: They live in enclaves where they do what they want when nobody's looking. Sort of like every immigrant group ever. https://s.instela.com/m/don-fanucci--i47957.jpg mudbug: They have so little interest in assimilating that they are requiring the host country to change its laws and customs to accommodate them. What laws and customs are those? mudbug: The incidence of rape in those countries, especially Sweden, has exploded. Misleading statistic. Victim surveys show that Sweden is around average for Europe.
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Zachriel
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2016-07-22 09:42
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Meanwhile in Canada the indoctrination to receive peacefully and without opposition the new feudal lords as dhimmis continues:
http://www.cbc.ca/littlemosque/ http://login.stream.aljazeera.com/story/toronto-muslim-prayer Our civil servants are busy addressing more pressing societal issues in the meantime: https://accreditation.ca/lgbt-toolkit-–-enhancing-awareness The French are politically schizophrenic. They do indeed do some things right but they do many things wrong and they do this quite intentionally and proudly. I like France and visit often. I have been everywhere in France and have spent time right where that women and her children were stabbed. A beautiful country that I would happily live in. But the French people themselves are generally standoffish and unwelcoming. They can be fiercely nationalistic and yet consistently do stupid things that weaken their country in the international arena. If you go to a restaurant in France you will either be treated with disdain or treated quite well. BUT more than likely if you are treated quite well your waiter is not French or French born. Ditto if you talk to someone on the street as in asking directions; If they are rude and refuse to try to speak your language than you are talking to a Frenchman. If on the other hand they try to communicate with you and get past your poor attempt at speaking French than you are talking with an immigrant. This holds true even if you are from a neighboring country. A Frenchman would rather shoot himself in the foot than try to accommodate a foreigner.
Are they aware of the military component of the conflict? Yes. Will they act like they are aware and do the right thing? Nope! They will find some way to shoot themselves in the foot. |