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Wednesday, July 5. 2017Exercise Physiology, re-posted
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The saddest part of the story is how quickly training gains are lost during periods without regular (meaning 3+ days/wk) strenuous activity. There is measurable decline in cardio functioning and muscle strength in weeks, and training gains can be lost in a few months. Use it or lose it. That is just how it is after age 30 or 35. Physical fitness, like mental fitness, is a life-style choice. Trackbacks
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My weights trainer has a 92 year-old client. Guy does bench press, deadlifts, everything.
The saddest part of the story is how quickly training gains are lost during periods without regular (meaning 3+ days/wk) strenuous activity. There is measurable decline in cardio functioning and muscle strength in weeks...
I realize this blog almost couldn't be more casual where comprehensive documentation goes, but has it occurred to anyone that the above runs contrary to the experiences of millions who do not partake in the Western mixed diet? Physical fitness, like mental fitness, is a life-style choice. Equally interested to learn the definition of mental fitness. What are you talking about? If you're discussing physical performance, then while diet is important it is secondary to training. Period.
What can someone eat (other than anabolic steroids) that maintains their muscle strength without exercising said muscles? What can someone eat (other than anabolic steroids) that maintains their muscle strength without exercising said muscles?
Given how vague all this is - your claim included - what are you talking about? There are entire nations where Western-style ketogenic dieting plus strenuous working out is neither the norm nor needed for good physical condition. Moreover, where disease is far lower and longevity is not impaired. If you're saying that ketogenic strength training is ketogenic strength training then yeah, I'd have to agree. A duck is generally a duck. I'm also always amused to see appeals to Science! coupled with complaints about scientism from the same source... Which is why hospitalization can be such a disaster for the marginally fit oldster in whom ordinary activity requires 80-90% of maximal capacity. Bedrest for a week or so can further reduce
maximal capacity to the point where getting up from recumbency or sitting much less walking exceeds their maximal capacity. Broken leg bones exacerbate this significantly and can be essentially a death sentence in terms of life expectancy of months because of loss of physical ability. Truly. Two nonagenarians: my late aunt and my neighbor. Both fell and broke their hips. My aunt lingered in pain in a nursing home before dying about eight months later. My neighbor (who broke her hip line dancing) charged through rehab and was using nothing but a cane within weeks. She doesn't even use the cane now, and still drives herself most places.
QUOTE: There is measurable decline in cardio functioning and muscle strength in weeks, and training gains can be lost in a few months. Use it or lose it. That is just how it is after age 30 or 35. Sure, but someone who has been physically active most of their lives will be fitter after a period of inactivity than someone who was never physically fit. QUOTE: Physical fitness, like mental fitness, is a life-style choice. Agreed. Physical fitness in humans comes from an active life. Query: I am 65, had a laminectory and fusion of L1 vertebra a month ago, have a lovely 8" scar on my back, am walking around in a body brace, and am under strict orders not to do much of anything until the doc says I can. Definitely no BLT (bending, lifting, twisting - not battalion landing team, that is). However, with all this inactivity, I am losing muscle mass and strength quickly. I understand the need for inactivity to make sure I heal and the hardware integrates itself properly, but are there any gentle exercises I can perform NOW at least to arrest the loss of muscle mass and retain a measure of strength?
You need a good physical therapist, now - preferably one who also can do exercise training.
Can anyone weigh in about isometrics exercise? I thought it was possible to do even with limited mobility.
Isometrics or dynamic tension exercises can be done while encased in doctors' swaddling clothes.
But those bastards won't tell you that! Too arrogant! They didn't learn that from their vaunted Med Schools, which only really taught them about surgery and drugs to alleviate "symptoms" and then call that "improving health". I broke an ankle some years ago and did two things after being placed in a hard cast covering my entire lower leg: flexed my muscles five times a day while wearing a cast (dynamic tension between muscles) and mentally focused upon the healing of my ankle through concentration, meditation...call it what you will. When the cast was removed after six weeks, the physical therapist was utterly amazed my leg muscles tested at 75% of normal strength. She explained that most people tested at 30-40% of normal due to non-use atrophy. She reported my condition to the orthopedic Doc; who asked me what I did. When I explained my "system", he pooh-poohed at as "nothing but luck". Moral of the story: You don't need to "exercise", but you do need to work your muscles, which you can do by regularly flexing them using the dynamic tension of working your muscles against each other. The data/statistics regarding longevity and health of nations and groups is replete with misinformation and propaganda. It is simply not true that there is any comparable country or group of people who have significantly better health or longevity than the U.S. (what you meant by "Western mixed diet").
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I'll see your baseless nationalistic assertion and raise you the largest health diet study ever conducted. Merica! "the largest health diet study ever conducted. Merica!"
Yes and every year our life expectancies increase and our survival rates from serious illnesses improves. And? Is that your proof-by-bacon?
Earth's longest human longevity isn't Western and its lowest incidences of disease aren't either. You're posing a lifestyle preconception, not positioning a good argument, which brings us back to what you're replying to. Your move. https://www.amazon.com/Barbell-Prescription-Strength-Training-After/dp/0982522770
Read it, learn it, live it. I turn 56 in a couple of weeks and have been following the Starting Strength programming philosophy for about two and a half years. Aside from a groin injury (due at least in part to poor form on my part) I have not had any injuries and my joints are pain free. My squat is 365 lb, deadlift is 460, bench is 205 and overhead press is 155, all at about 200 lb bodyweight. I fully intend to enter my golden years as strong as I can be. Spot on, brother! Tell the folks. Starting Strength/Barbell Prescription works! Read, learn, DO!
The saddest part of the story is how quickly training gains are lost during periods without regular (meaning 3+ days/wk) strenuous activity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tell me about it. My experience is at my age you begin losing it after about a week (I'm 60). Got hit with plantar fasciitis back around November which has been really hard to come back from in terms of my running, and I am really feeling the effects now after about 6 months of lessened activity. Before I could do a 6 mile run several times a week with no after-effects. Now, even a 2 mile slow jog is a challenge, and takes me several days to recover from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsTwcOb_0k
Above is a link to a talk by Jordan Feigenbaum on training & nutrition. He is an MD, an avid lifter and his talk gives a nice summary and critical look at some current studies in nutrition and exercise science. Worth a look for those interested in such things. There is also 'muscle memory', whether actually as the name implies or some other agent.
Having been a (serious, Bird Dog ain't in it) gym rat for several years, I've gone on and off the iron over time. Each time I go back, I am astonished at how quickly I can 'bulk up' - albeit bulking up for a fairly feminine woman is probably a misnomer. But defined muscle is there, and strength grows very quickly. I'll never be as I was at 35, 40, 50 or even 60 - age takes its toll. It isn't about recapturing youth. Such a silly idea - and so prevalent, especially in those that have come late to the party. It is about making the life that is left more enjoyable. Every year that passes will see a decline in strength and stamina but it still is worth keeping up a routine, even if it is limited to long walks and some minor lifting - and climbing the rigging, of course ;-> Fair winds, The Captain At 70 yo and counting, I am still get around in the rigging, if not quite as quickly as I once did. I came across this guy about 6 months ago. He is a doctor, he trains and studies training and nutrition exclusively. There is some good info on his site. http://themusclephd.com/
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