We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
"...the wind of opinion in recent years appears to have begun to blow against those who insist that Western liberal societies owe nothing to the religion from which they arose. Partly because the more we become acquainted with other traditions, the harder it becomes to sustain. Indeed, although some people still hold out, it should be evident by now that the culture of human rights has more to do with the creed preached by Moses and Jesus of Nazareth than that of, say, Muhammad. Nevertheless, the question of whether this societal position is sustainable without reference to the beliefs that gave it birth remains deeply pregnant and troubling in the West."
They perceive correctly that some faiths cost them something, while others do not. Amidst all the criticisms - some legitimate - of Christianity and less often, Judaism, I often wonder if that cost is the real root of all opposition.
Assistant Village Idiot
Secularism is dead if only because secularists don't have children.
Perhaps Europe will descend into Islam and barbarism, and the lights will go out forever. One prays not. How sad an outcome for the rest of the world.
The Catholic Church has now joined the Protestants in the race to the bottom. If Christianity survives in Europe, for a long time it will be a remnant, and the eventual victor will likely be the Orthodox Church, most likely its Russian version.
For some years now I have been especially struck by accounts I have heard and read of people who have chosen to convert to Islam. Partly these stories are striking because they are so similar — and not only to each other. They are almost always some variant of a story nearly any young person could tell. They generally go something like this: “I had reached X age (often the twenties or early thirties) and I was in a nightclub and I was drunk and I just thought, ‘Life must be about more than this’.” Almost nothing else in our culture says, “But of course this is not all.” Instead the voice of our culture just says, “repeat, repeat.” In the absence of such a voice they search, and they discover Islam.
in that case, islam is also doomed.
but this makes no sense. if someone is searching for meaning, what is it about slicing off heads and sharia law that is attractive or even understandable except as a juvenile rejection of adult life? disaffected kids aren't turning to islam, they're not turning to anything.
Donny "The Bear Jew" Donowitz
Religion is a poeticization of ethics. Ethics though is being played into soap opera - which sells to a large viewinig and voting bloc, so that's where the story legs are, stories that will not die and cannot be corrected.
I'd say that Islam is a poeticization of tribal ethics, which winds up dysfunctional on its own. Judeo-Christian ethics produce a stable system of rights eventually, not counting soap opera which today trades on that.
I think most people have some sort of faith. Unfortunately many are replacing Judaism and Christianity with less stupid cults.
I see many people who still have faith in the State despite massive evidence that they shouldn't. The State isn't a jealous god and allows them to dabble in the apocalyptic cult of "climate change" too.