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Thursday, February 6. 2014A do-it-yourself test for sociopathy, re-postedRead this question, come up with an answer and then scroll down to the bottom for the result. This is not a trick question. It reads:
A woman, while at the funeral of her own mother, met a guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazingly appealing. She believed him to be her dream guy and soul mate so much that she fell in love with him right then and there, but never asked for his number and could not find him. A few days later she killed her sister. Question: What is her motive for killing her sister? [Give this a little thought before you answer]
X X X X X Answer below the fold - She was hoping the guy would appear at the funeral again. If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. This was a test by
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Um, and what does it mean if I answered:
"She discovered the man was really her sister in drag." My thought was that anyone who'd fall that far in love in one meeting at her mom's funeral no less, might kill her sister, or do anything else under the sun, just cuz she was nutso.
But, yes, that is one wicked test, a real aimed shot. I've seen this one before. I came up with a few answers, but not the right one.
Every so often, when the mood is right, I trot this out and see if anyone guesses the answer. Most people not only cannot guess it, but they are appalled at the answer. The one person who guessed immediately? My unmarried sister! I hope I'm not in trouble. My sister thinks that single people will be more apt to guess the answer. I haven't tested that theory yet. Yikes. While I'm usually pretty good at out-thinking bad guys, I failed this one. Glad to have done so. Think I'll pass it around and see if some suspicions will be confirmed.
I totally got this one right. Or wrong should I say. I actually expected that almost everyone would get the same answer, but no one else did. I thought it was just a logical conclusion.
I guess I kind of fit the description of a sociopath in some ways. I don't trust people too much and I'm very critical of others, but I'd never consider hurting anyone. Probably why I think like this, is because I was made fun of a lot as a kid. It made me very introverted. I just think most people will think it's ironic, given the fact that my email is sick.psyche. Also, the fact that I have my own website is ironic considering sociopaths are generally very narcissistic. However, I suppose I have an excuse for that one. My mom actually made me that website to post my art on a couple years ago when I turned sixteen. Didn't anyone else choose the unhealthy answer? Yeah your not a sociopath, they are more with drawn an wouldn't draw attention to themselves by posting art or any other form of achivement on the internet or anywhere else.
In fact I would consider yourself lucky. It's a condition that takes many years to develope properly an it mostly effects people that you would never suspect. Hidding in plan site if you would, noticed as people that are just there an no one to notice by others. Sociopathy and Psychopathy are not the same things, you moron.
Sociopaths lack several or all emotions and are extremely capable of faking the emotions they lack, are persuasive and generally(there are exceptions) highly intelligent. They also have OCD and are Paranoid, though the latter can range from minor suspicion to extreme phobia. Psychopaths have extreme emotions, are highly intelligent and very compulsive. They are the deadly, unpredictable kind, because they let their emotions lead them. Sociopaths on the other hand, lack those emotions, and thus are very much less likely to kill, not because of awareness of good or bad, but more because of the consequences it could bring. Apparently, you don't really know what you are talking about either. No, sociopaths and psychopaths are not the same thing, but you have them mixed up and backwards. Sociopaths are people who have very little guilt response to doing bad things and so they tend to do whatever they feel like doing at the time and will do whatever it is they need to to get it, often ignoring social norms. A more extreme example of this would be someone who kills somebody else because they want their ice cream cone. In contrast, psychopaths are people who have "thought disturbances", meaning their thought process is "off". An extremem example of this would be someone who hears voices telling him that aliens have emplanted chips in his stomach that make unicorns fly out of his butt while he is sleeping, but doesn't see anything odd about this belief. Anyways, so sociopathology and psychopathology are quite general terms that can encompass a lot of different behaviors and often times the behaviors can be very similar, what differentiates them is the person's thought process behind doing the action. As far as the test above goes, this woman could be either a sociopath or a psychopath depending on her reasoning behind the decision to kill her sister.
As far as a lot of your other statements go, good grief. Psychopaths are usually not dangerous let alone deadly. Some small percentage of persons with psychopathology have delusions or hallucinations that lead to them wanting to hurt or kill other people (they think they need to kill you to save the world from something or voices are telling them to kill you because you are going to attack them). This is not very common. Paranoia among psychopaths does tend to be quite common however. OCD and intelligence are completely separate issues from either psychopathology or sociopathology and tend to be completely coincidental when they occur together (however as narcisism and sociopathology often goes hand-in-hand, many sociopaths may believe that they are very intelligent). As far as emotions go, sociopaths tend to have a very decreased response to emotional stimuli, with the exception that some things can often piss them off quite well. Psychopaths usually don't interpret emotional stimuli correctly (due to their messed up mental processing) and so often don't seem to respond to stimuli and usually don't understand other people's reactions to emotional stimuli. It is very common for persons with psychopathology to have what is called "flat affect" which means they just don't display emotions and don't respond to emotions. I often describe this as they look like they are pretending to be robots. Anyway, this is a quick overview, so there are lots of nuances to these things that I have not touched on here. If you want more information, go look it up ;-) I have to disagree on one point. From my readings sociopaths do tend to actually be fairly intelligent, or at least able to decieve people into believing they are. I would qualify the ability to manipulate others emotions and turn them into pawns as something requiring intelligence. Sociopaths have always been my favorite people. They don't seem to like me though. You are right I suppose about narcisism but whoever doesn't view themselves as the center role in their own little drama is either a liar or a moron. Sociopaths are also rarer than psychopaths or at least documented, because they slip so easily by with lies, and also because their "symptoms" are so common, I myself have qualified in several exams for sociopathy and yet by the very act of caring I make it impossible. An interesting disorder.
this doesn't really work that well. sociopaths (like myself) aren't killers, we just don't give a fuck about anyone and only 'befriend' people who we can use.
I remember this test when I took social psychology 12... My first logical answer to that was infact the correct one... but I didn't riase me hand to share my answer...
People around me were blurting out answers, not one said what I was thinking... They were all confused. Noone could get it. But me, being so shy... just sat there. Luckily, I ended up remaining completely silent, and when the teacher told us the answer, I found I was correct. All of my classmates, well, they were rather stunned. Classmates which, were all infact in grade 12. I was in grade 11. and pulling the highest mark in the class... 102% I let my emotions guide my life and my actions, and I am rather compulsive. I tend to not talk to much to people about how I feel, causing unpredictible behavior... and here I thought I was a sociopath! I'm a psychpath! Yay! (Now I can scare the sh*t out of people!) I'm bookmarking this page. I guessed right.
And I'm actually getting rather high scores on the tests. I think they'd be higher except that I've beaten a sense of duty into myself. I don't really care about most people, to tell the truth, really just fond of most people... If something happened to someone, I wouldn't really care, and would just try to pick up from there, and help them repair the damage (if possible) either out of a sense of duty or because I like them. And if I had to do something bad in order to prevent something even worse, I'd do it, and unlike most people I wouldn't have a twinge of conscience about it, or ever think "Could I have done it any other way?" It's why I'm confused, actually. If it weren't for the duty bit, I'm sure I'd be getting 80%, 90% sociopath. My mom asked me this one when I was 14 or so. I immediately came up with the dreaded "correct" answer, but I imagine there is more to sociopathy than that... I do fake some emotions, but I genuinely feel compassion for others.
psychopaths are not the same thing as Sociopaths. And sociopaths don't fall in love...
I had two thoughts, she wanted to see the man again, or she believed her man slept with her sister, so she killed her, what does it mean?
I too guessed the answer..this time, and every time someone's sent me this in an e-mail . And yes, they are usually disturbed at me having arrived at the "correct" answer.
It was a simple process of elimination. Assuming that the subject of the story is indeed compulsive-psychotic-sociopathic whateverhaveyou and would take the path of least resistance...."arranging" for another like event was the surest and quickest way to recreate the circumstances that brought her in contact with the man in the first place. Interesting..the fear in some of the responses. I guess that taking an analytical approach to the riddle marks one as a deviant. Oh well... Does that make detectives and mental health professionals deviant too? There must be many lifestyle or career paths that would put one in touch with their "dark side". Takes one to know one? BUMP!
Ray, I Loved your answer. I, on the other hand, think that she killed her sister because she is utterly stupid. Why would the guy appear at his sister's funeral? At most, he was his mother's acquintance. Was he a friend of her sister? She doesn't speak to the man the first time he sees her but is willing to add the pressure of murdering her own sister as a boost for what? Self-confidence? Not to mention the high probability of getting arrested, wisch is one of the main reasons why sociopaths don't rely on murder. They are too intelligent. At least more intelligent than that. Obviously the answer was that one. No other was possible. If you guessed it, that doesn't make you a sociopath - it shows you have basic reasoning skills (IOW: "you're smart") Seriously, people... I mean, seriously........ Listen to you all trying so hard to sound like you are sociopathic or psycopathic. You're degrading yourselves. If you really were a sociopath or psycopath, you wouldn't care enough to point it out. Using large words or eloquent vocabulary doesn't help. It makes you sound like you're trying to be Hannibal Lector. Quit making everyone (including yourselves) look stupid.
I came to the logical conclusion: the woman had no other way to reach the man other than to recreate the circumstances that lead her to him in the first place--the death of a relative. The fastest way to assure a funeral--kill someone.
I don't consider myself psychopathic--just logical. What troubles me is that most people didn't seem to come to the same conclusion. This lack of awareness is what allows these creatures to flourish and work their misdeeds undetected and unchallenged by society. I have had the misfortune to work under, not one, but TWO individuals displaying these traits. Misery, panic, fear, deceit and confusion plagued the establishment during their reign of terror. Destroyed careers and lives followed in the wake of their dismissal. And all because no one would dare question "The Captain and XO." I am an advocate for EEG-word association testing of ANYONE who assumes a government, military or high position of leadership where people's lives and careers are at stake. These people exist, they are more prevalent than you think and they will seek to destroy all that you hold dear--just because they know people will second-guess themselves before they will confront others. Arm yourselves with knowledge. If you think you're being targeted by one of these "people"--you are not crazy. You're aware. Don't be afraid to act. I think I'm the only person with my answer, so far, on this site. I didn't get the correct answer, as I simply figured the two incidents were unrelated, i.e she killed her sister for being annoying.
I cannot create bonds with people so the idea of killing someone to be able to find someone else, who I "love", is entirely foreign to me. I don't understand why if she wanted him at the time she didn't simply tell him. (I do understand lust if an attractive person is in front of me, though the sex or personality of the person is no barrier.) I love how concerned people are in the responses, and how the girl who brags about her I.Q spelled 'psychopath' wrong, as well as numerous other mistakes. ;) What's interesting is-- I'm not sure about myself.
Don't worry, I don't seriously believe myself to be a socio/psychopath, but I do enough to check online. The only thing I worry about is that-- I've been online for a bit now, checking along for tests for how to see if I am either. Unfortuantely, I don't think I'm qualified to judge, as I'm biased. The questions put forth, I answer with my best judgement, HOWEVER-- when I'm told that I'm NOT a psychopath/sociopath, I can't help but feel a little disappointed. And that's disturbing. The answers to most of the questions for me usually are a little varied-- I have certain markers that suggest a confirmation, but others that don't... and that makes me confused. Maybe I'm just crazy. I assumed the sister was with the guy, and the killer was jealous.
I'm almost afraid to admit this, but before reading the last line, I already kind of had it in my mind she might kill someone or something related to a second funeral.
So when it asked me to think about the answer, I thought it was so obvious that if they're telling me to think about it, maybe it's a sort of trick question. I still can't really see how you'd answer anything else, though, unless you were just purposely trying to hide knowing the right answer. First I said 'because she felt like it'.
Then I thought that was boring and read the question again. Then I guessed she wanted the guy to turn up at her sister's funeral. I'm not a psychopath though, I'm just a sociopath. you guys would make terrible defense lawyers or novelists, but great prosecution jurors.
you make horrible assumptions about the form of the argument so you can debate the conclusions: she's a psychopath, a sociopath, some other form of loon. but there's nothing in the set up that tells you (1) that all the facts given are relevant, or (2) that they are all equally weighted and (3) that all relevant facts are known. you assume they are, but you aren't explicitly told that. the woman might have been part of a triple murder-suicide pact with mom and sis and flirting with the guy might have delayed sis's death by a day or two. I can come up with a dozen different explanations for her conduct if I don't assume what I'm not obligated to assume. Answer seemed perfectly obvious to me, but i had trouble sympathizing -- I would have gotten his number the first time.
she killed her sister because the guy was her brother-in-law! There; am I more psychopathic than those who got the "right" answer?
yes, that was my answer too, but with the addendum "as he was the undertaker".
My answer is, "I really don't care what her motives were. Fire up Old Sparky."
So she had to kill her sister? She couldn't have simply asked for the guy's telephone number?
Oh, wait, maybe the sister didn't know the man either. So that would make killing the sister a waste of time. Either way, any answer to this question reflects more on its creator than those who attempt to answer it. So much for our old friend the "famous American psychologist". You know, the one who treats Al Gore. All she had to do was look at the male names who signed the guest book, and call them. There couldn't have been many at the funeral. How many friends could a person have who raises a sociopath? After killing her sister, who is she going to borrow money from now when she's broke? Dumb ass.......
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