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Friday, April 11. 2014
Prison for being a huckster? Is that right?
Do you have any idea how many medical procedures and medicines which are commonly used today are backed up by dubious science or unproven evidence, or with which placebo effect is dominant? And look at this: your at-home TMS machine!
And what about nutritional supplements, vitamins, and minerals? The benefits there are minimal to none, most of the time, yet the airwaves are full of sales pitches.
And on internet ads, "Take this miracle pill and..."
What about the organic food and Whole Foods scam on naive and ignorant people? And what about politicians and stockbrokers?
Ineffective things are sold every day, demonstrating the power of wishful-thinking, or magical-thinking, in humans. Hucksterism is an old American, if not worldwide, tradition. Caveat Emptor.
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The guys and gals performing surgery on teen-aged girls to make their butts bigger should go to jail.
well, got to punish those who don't pay enough in campaign donationsprotection money to the right politicians...
How else can you expect to keep the masses in line?
We must remember the Con Man Extraordinaire of our age - Pres. Obama - selling to the useful idiots amongst us, the snake oil of the Affordable Care Act. Tar and feathers needed.
Not all vitamins and supplements are useless. But, like medicines, not everyone reacts the same.
After experimenting over the years with many items that claimed to reduce cholesterol, including one non-statin prescribed medicine, I finally found the combination to bring mine down to 181- first time below 210 since first measured 20 years ago. A spoonful of 5 different natural fibers (flaxseed, chia, pectin, psyllium and guar gum) taken once dily, with a lot of water, mixed altogether in a shaker bottle. Everyone I know who has ever taken statins has had unpleasant side effects- so I have resisted doctors recommendations to take them. All of them, BTW, have studies showing they may help to reduce cholesterol, but none of them had worked to reduce mine when used singly. So I figured I would try them all at once and it did work.
Started taking lysine years ago. Stopped getting cold sores after I started taking lysine. Could be co-incidence, but since it also worked for my wife, and anyone else I know who has tried it, maybe it isn't.
Chondroitain-glucosamine. The person who recommended I take this conination as a supplement said that it wouldn't take the pain away like an NSAID or pain pill, but that a few months down the line I would wake up and say to myself- "You know, my knees haven't hurt for a while." And that's exactly what happened. Studies on this combination are generally short term- and expect it to act like other pain-relievers. Take it and the pain goes away- instantly and magically.
Creatine, Works wonders. If I'm doing work I know is using underutilized muscle groups, I take some afterwards. Muscles will be tired the next morning- but not sore. If I do pull my back muscles, a more frequent occurrence as I get older, taking creatine everyday afterwards reduces recovery time from weeks to days. Still need pain-killers to stop the pain, but don't need them as long.
My doctor had never heard of nasal irrigation when I started doing it, using a water-pik attachment. Haven't used an anti-histamine in more then a decade now. He says I was ahead of the trend. A significant portion of his patients now practice it. It works- really well- and is still not mainsream medicine. (Don't know how people do it with a Neti pot.)
Real prescribed medicines? I forget the name of what my son was prescribed for cluster headaches- but his college health department sent him to the psychiactric emergeny room becasue it made him paranoid. (I got him out of there before they started drugging him furthur and making it worse.) He finally started taking aspirin- powdered aspirin to get in him quicker- and it worked better then any new wonder drug. But every doctor he had ever been to warned him- "DON'T TAKE ASPIRIN!" Aspirin is far safer then ibuprofen and acetomenophin. And for most people- works . And, it's less expensive.
There's both a lot of information and mis-information out there in the wilds of the internet about supplements. Seperating the wheat from the chaff is difficult. I don't disagree that there are a lot of worthless supplements out there. But I do know there are several that work.
There's both a lot of information and mis-information out there in the wilds of the internet about EVERYTHING. I know people who use the internet to "prove" all the mutually incompatible conspiracy theories they believe in. Free energy, anti-gravity, mind control, XT bodies at Area 51, vaccines as poison for the masses- it's all out there. But, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Man clearly missed his calling – elected public office.
You can't lump everyone and every "vitamin" into you neat little box. And yet you are.
I used to get two or three colds or sinus infections every year. I worked in the construction trades (drywall) and was often inside a cold unfinished house or outside cleaning tools. Not having any kind of health insurance caused me to look for ways to help myself. So five years ago I starred taking D3. Shortly after that I added K2 and Calcium. These three work together well. I have not had a cold or sinus infection in four years. What should I attribute that to? Dumb luck?
Most mulitvitamin supplements have most vitamins, just because. The biochemistry professor I rented a room from said that for many of them, the chemical form in the supplement wasn't even in a form that could be easily metabolized by humans.
On the other hand, vitamin D deficiency is actually very common, which is why it gets used as a supplement routinely in food items such as milk. I've personally suffered from what was diagnosed as a calcium deficiency, and the typical western processed food diet is low in bacterial fermented foods, like mature cheeses and curd that would be a good source of K2.
I don't think it any contradiction that many may have a diet that is deficient in some stuff, but that multivitamins and other food fads based on woo will not help the majority of people.
yes, most bottles of "mutivitamins" are just placebos.
As always, you get what you pay for.
There's a reason that that cheap bottle costs $1 for 100 pills and that expensive one costs $10 for 50 pills, and it's not corporate greed (ok, there's some brands out there that are expensive yet junk).
I read one of Trudeau's books, saw nothing particularly outrageous in it, but do recall that he was very critical of the FDA in every chapter. Looks like payback to me.
You can't lump everyone and every "vitamin" into you neat little box. And yet you are.
Here at MF, home of inquiring, even contrarian minds, the good Doctor's health prescription is that pizza and ice cream are all you need. And fruit is right out, it's complex sugars being tantamount to poison.
Obesity, presumably like cancer, heart failure, and diabetes, is simply hereditary around the Doctor's office and blog. The glory of the Western diet's ability to push folks to 90 is ample proof that aspartame is not at all unlike, say, supergreens.
Because MD. Smugly.
I had a nutrition class in junior-high-school, and the teacher was a big booster of Pizza. On all the recommended dietary intake recommendations of the time, it ticked all the boxes. The sodium level was not inappropriate for active young people, and carbs were encouraged.
I've a strong suspicion that she just liked pizza a lot, and spent time lookng for justification of why it was OK. But I couldn't counter her data or argument at the time.
One:How many proven drugs are counterfeited? These are named brand drugs that are made in independent labs without standardized dosage and / or mixers. There is a lot of money to be made in gray market drugs.
Two: I have a tendency towards blood clots in my legs and an aversion to doctors. I mean they get huffy if you discuss price and always want to stick fingers in my fundament. After research, I have found a freeze dried gingko hawthorn mixture that works for about a dollar a day. How do I know it works? Because I have experience two relapses when I ran out. That said, I hesitate to take any supplement in which each dose contains the vitamins normally found in a bushel of wheat.