Maggie's Farm

There was a time, maybe ten years ago maybe more when you could argue that the warmist believed what they were saying and that there was not yet enough data to prove or disprove AGW. But today with the exposing of the fraud by climate scientists to hide the data that doesn't fit their agenda and the changing of historical data to make warming look worse that there is no doubt that warmist are now liars. As for the politicians and the far left in general they were never in it for mother earth. They were always in it for political and economic gain. It may now be more obvious that they too were liars but they were always liars.

You miss the point. CO2 is SOOOO powerful that it drive the climate inexorably warmer. If the CO2 stopped, slowed or reversed over the last 15 years then the warmist might still have somethng to hang their hat on. But in fact the exact opposite has occurred in those 33 years. CO2 has risen relentlessly and over the last 15-17 years temperatures have dropped just as relentlessly such that they are roughly back to where they were 33 years ago. Fallacy? Really!

But there is more to this story then just that. 33 years ago the earth had cooled somewhat so to cherry pick that date as a starting point seems incredibly "lucky" from the standpont of AGW theory or perhaps a tad dishonest. Suppose instead they had picked a point 79 years ago, the hottest period in the 20th century? Then instead of global warmng the data would prove global cooling. It is considerably cooler today then it was 79 years ago and has been during the entire period that global warming has been the meme. But yet CO2 continues it's constant rise... Go figure. It certainly appears that the fallacy is to claim there was AGW and that CO2 causes gloal warming.