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Thursday, May 23. 2013The white people at The New York Times have a deep understanding of what black people are likeThese lyrics, for example. According to them that's The New Shakespeare. The true voice of black Americans. If that is what brown-skinned Americans are all about, I guess I don't get out enough because I never see people talking or acting like that, regardless of skin tone.
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[i]"There’s a long history of overlap between Chicago’s gangs and Chicago’s rap."[i]
Boy howdy you can't sneak nothing past the New York Times, huh? I never see people talking... like that
There was a kid on my high school bus who talked like that. Take away the 'fuck's and 'shit's and there wasn't much left. He wasn't black, though, old line Massachusetts underclass I would reckon. "old line Massachusetts underclass"
No that's a fine distinction of the undistinguished. Old line Mass underclass? Yessirree
Lynn, Lynn the city of sin You never come out, the way you came in You ask for water, but they give you gin The girls say no, yet they always give in If your not bad, they won’t let you in It’s the damndest city I’ve ever lived in Lynn, Lynn the city of sin You never come out, the way you came in. Apparently it's had that reputation for quite a while. It's been sung about. Three Jolly Rogues of Lynn existed during "the good old colony days, when we lived under the king." In more recent days, it's been written about. In his book Sacred, Dennis Lehane wrote about a chop-shop guy on the Lynnway, the place where cars in the Boston area go to premature deaths. The book points out that the Boston area has one of the highest auto theft rates in the country, even though other crime rates are rather low. For all of its reputation, Lynn is a rather photogenic city, and one where you can purchase a house much cheaper than in neighboring towns. Why houses are cheaper in Lynn? City of sin. And you wonder why black youth unemployment is so high...
Can't blame blacks on Lynn's reputation. Lynn is only 13% black. 58% white. Lynn had earned the "City of Sin" reputation when it was much whiter than it is now. Far as I know, it ain't blacks running them chop-shops in Lynn; Run of the mill Eyetalians and Irishers. Probably some WASPS, too. Probably some blacks in the chop-shop business, but it wasn't blacks who started them up. Recall Chucks' #3 remark:
There was a kid on my high school bus who talked like that. Take away the 'fuck's and 'shit's and there wasn't much left. He wasn't black, though, old line Massachusetts underclass I would reckon. When I think of people I know from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts whom I would label as "Massholes," all of them are white. There are plenty of people from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts who are NOT Massholes, but there is a certain proportion who are. In Revere, In Those Days is a good coming of age novel which juxtaposes sober, hardworking people of Revere [near Lynn] with those of the underclass/ criminal class- or those who are roommate and his family.
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Gringo
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2013-05-24 11:15
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Somehow I posted my comment in reply to yours. That was not my intent. My comment referred to the text of the song/chant in the article.
Coincidently I was born and lived in Lynn until I was 21. The "sin" was merely that it rhymed with Lynn. Not that there was no sin back then but no more or less then other cities. I go back to visit Lynn and other cities where my relatives still live and it's still a pretty good city. Certainly there are parts you wouldn't want to walk in at night like so many of our cities. You may already know that "Massholes" is what people in New Hampshire or Maine call those who come from Mass or move up there from Mass. It is nothing more then a perjorative not based on much of anything. In fact the people who usually use that term are those residents of New Hampshire that move up there from Mass the year before and now wish no one else would. I grew up in Lynn in it's hayday; lots of shoe factories, leather factories, Machine shops, GE, etc. Plenty of jobs for everyone and the city was well run and clean. Now the beach looks like a dump, the biggest industry is welfare and most of the industry is been long gone. Back then Revere was the place to be on a Friday or Saturday night. It was a great place to grow up.
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GoneWithTheWind
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2013-05-24 20:52
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Interesting that you are from Lynn.
I have relatives who live in Mass, so I am not ignorant of the place. The biggest Masshole I know is a relative by marriage- who no longer lives in Mass. I will spare you the details. But the rest of this particular person's family, who all still reside in Mass, are OK. Here is one operational definition of a Masshole: one Saturday night I was crossing a street in Back Bay, following the traffic lights. A driver crossed the striped crosswalk, aimed straight at me. I jumped out of the way. The driver braked, and laughed. Really funny. Only in Boston. Regarding Lynn and sin, well, you know it better than I. It makes a good joke, though. Have you read any of Merullo's books about growing up in Revere? [such as the one I mentioned] I liked his Revere books.
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Gringo
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2013-05-24 21:21
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I have not read any of his books I will have to look for them and read one. It sounds like it would be a familiar story. Revere Beach had an amusement park along the beach. Largest wooden roller coaster East of the Mississippi. One casualty on the rolloer coaster and it was the only night I ever saw them use both sets of cars. One passenger stood up in the tunnel and was knocked unconsious and ouy of the car by one of the wooden timbers as it came out of the tunnel. My friend and I were in the second set of cars which ran over the unconsciouse victim. If they hadn't been running both sets of cars he probably would have survived. They also had the first double Ferris Wheel I ever rode. The top wheel would hang out over the street and seemed to be over the beach too. But the best part of going to Revere Beach was the fried clams. I can still taste Ipswich fried clams. It's one of the first things I love to eat when I visit back home. The beach itself had a fatal flaw, small stones everywhere. You couldn't walk barefoot on the beach. Otherwise it was a beautiful beach; clean very long sweeping curved beach. The town itself was a lot of three story walkups, almost no single family homes. Lots of first and second generation immigrants from Italy and South Eastern Europe. Usually peaceful and safe but sometimes when a large navy ship was in the Boston Navy Yard the navy men would get into some trouble, usually fights over a local girl or drunk.
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GoneWithTheWind
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2013-05-24 23:29
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Just a single example of a whole raft of self-degraded slunks.
Reminds me of this internet classic:
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/ I still suspect this may be Chris Matthews webpage, but he denies it. I don't understand. But, then, my parents taught manners and proper speech and other things Texan. Maybe those are flag words -- manners and proper speech.
The new Shakespeare? Ahhhh, the Bard of Benin. Leave it to the NYT to resurrect The Noble Savage meme.
You obviously don't get out much - or hang with black gangsta's as they say in the vernacular.
Hell, you even see this kind of behavior among the younger black population in CT - nothing unusual. They have no life, they don't want anything beyond the "tribe" as defined by whatever gang or entity they with to be a part of - it's a whole different look at how life is to be lived. dirtbag with meat cleaver in UK = lowlife gangbanging losers in the windy city. Call the Orkin man, pestilence getting out of control.
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