We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Pearl Harbor is a difficult topic to discuss rationally, with the layers of conspiracy nonsense that have grown over seven decades. This was caused, in party by the slow release of facts and documents due to wartime necessity and the Navy's understandable desire to cover up the, negligence and poor judgment of senior officers; intelligence dissemination bottlenecks; rivalry with the Army and State Department; etc. And this has been aggravated by the public love of conspiracy theories combined with the fallacy where argument is confused with evidence.
Still, the lessons are there and still applicable: the Vietnam War I mean Pearl Harbor is what happens when an aggressive foreign policy writes checks that the military cannot honor. 911, sorry, Pearl Harbor, happens when intelligence groups do not talk to each other because of turf wars and underestimate the intent and reach of the enemy.
Still, I'm curious about what is in the British Foreign Office archives still classified dating from late November, early December 1941 (the noted historian John Costello referred to them in the 1995 Senate hearings to clear the record of the Hawaii commanders, speculation abounds as to their nature and content). my guess is that the British or Dutch had made an accurate estimation (albeit without the cachet of having broken the IJN naval code) about the raid and a warning -- possibly only hours before the raid -- given FDR, much too late to evaluate and take effective measures. just another embarrassment for the government.
In Volume 1 of "Robert A. Heinlein, In Dialogue With His Century"(Learning Curve 1907 - 1948), by William H. Patterson, Jr., is a description of a 1932 Naval exercise starting on page 148. He was on the carrier USS Lexington, and the Lex was part of an air strike on Pearl Harbor, completely successful.
Those were the "Grand Joint Army Navy Exercises" of that year. its easy to draw wrong conclusions looking backwards in time, although the proponents of air power were ultimately proved correct. the carriers' role in the then-prevailing notion of a big-gun battle line was as a scouting force, very different from the role they would have ten years later. the decisive naval battle was expected to be fought between battleships. the aircraft of the day were still biplanes, and very poor performers compared to wartime models. direct comparisons are difficult: by 1942 a deckload of attack aircraft could "kill" one enemy carrier; this is important: in '32, the actual ratio would have been far lower. its also important to note that results of exercises like that were often "adjusted" in favor of whatever faction was running the navy, and in '32, that would have been the gun club.
interestingly, it was the temporary loss of the second generation battleships (total for Arizona and Oklahoma) that freed the carriers from being tied to the slower battleships and allowed an evolution in tactics where the faster battleships then being built operated in support of the carriers.
Exxon? JUST Exxon? Sure, just the start of everyone hates our children. Except, of course, Planned Parenthood and the abortion lobby. And HOW KIND is is to show teens how to cover up a beating with make-up. That's truly empowerment!
Nonprofits better watch out, though I doubt they are that smart--higher taxes on the rich would be on their execs, and on those who contribute to the nonprofits...
NO corrupt? How can I believe that? And Mr. Mead foolishly thinks this may exonerate (in part) BUSH!!!!111!!! for Katrina. Like the lap dog media would do any such thing! (See Sandy.)
A recent revelation is that Russia had an agent in the FDR administration who engineered the disaffection between Japan and the U.S. with the intent of pushing Japan to attack. FDR had a lot of communists in his administration and ironically, as we enter the next great depression, so does Obama. In my opinion I believe that the administration knew of the attack and choose not to do anything about it (almost but not quite like Benghazi). I think he knew we had to enter the war and the sooner the better. I don't think he knew how effective and disasterous the attack would be. He assumed our battleships were tough enough to survive an attack by the very small Japanese planes which were little more then gnats. But the attack was much worse then anticipated. There were two U.S. aircraft carriers in the fleet and they were both miles away from the attack, something that was unusual and can not be explained. Aircraft carriers rarely go anywhere without a full complement of accompanying ships but most of the fleet were in Pearl Harbor. It seems likely that at some high level the decision was made to put the carriers out of harms way and allow the attack so it would coalesce American opinion about the war.