Maggie's Farm

Yup --you fergot yer hat, too. After a few years i went and put it on the scarecrow where it half works and half doesn't--it attracts more of 'em, but they don't eat, they laugh

Exactamento! The secession and the war were two separate and distinct things --not the binary event portrayed in the lore.

The war started several months after the secession.

Charleston was sending delegation after delegation to DC trying to purchase the fort sitting in the middle of her harbor.

Mr. Lincoln would not see them, not allow anyone to accept their proposal for consideration.

In this span of time, Charleston was feeding the federal garrison --the townfolk just wanted them to leave, as to them it was now a foreign power's guns that were inside the harbor aimed at the commerce.

When Lincoln announced he was sending a resupply flotilla into the harbor to resupply and reinforce the Garrison, the southerners begging him not to, as they would have to oppose it, to establish the state sovereign right.

But the flotilla --warships carrying supplies as well as marines and heavy guns, sailed anyway.

At that point, the reb military command --receiving reports from coastwatchers of the flotilla enroute, told the federal commander that he would have to start shooting, he could not allow the flotilla to debark cargo --but the bombardment would be at so n so hour of the morrow.

The guns duly began, with the target garrison, warned and under cover, suffering zero casualties, before, a couple hours later, honor served, it ran up the white flag, and the fight was done, the only casualties next day, the federals holding a ceremony of departure, suffered one death and an injury when a federal cannon breech blew during the flag-lowering cannon salute.

The Charlestonions fed the yanks and friendly-like loaded the garrison --boys they knew and vice versa -- on a train and sent the train to DC, along with the continuing letter of appropriation and request to have a conference of settling the real-estate improvements costs pending.

The myth, that the secession and the fire on Fort Sumter were concurrent and the work of firebrand confederates, is accepted history but the truth is much more a shade of gray, so to speak.

Not to be rude, nor to forget that at bottom the secesh did cause the shootin' war in the sense of the secession having enabled Lincoln to provoke the war.

As a clue, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, other moral leaders, were against slavery, tho they had slaves. They wrote against the ''peculiar institution'' even before the war. I know, sounds crazy --but it's true. Point being, the power of fashion was already against it, only inertia and the difficulty of monied interests stood in support. Once the invasions began, however, folks who'd never even seen a slave, like the country folk i hail from in northwest Louisiana a valley over from the Mississippi River, were immediately in the fight, as the federals were despoiling the farms, and there wern't no food stamps.

Worst of all, he petulantly quit the reparations conference over allied demands, and went home. The allied radicals then took over, and drove the reparations that Hitler soon enough took power by reneging.

...speaking of them RT fellers, here's your Russia 1930s kulak posters doing what the California teachers seek to do --dehumanize property owners and make them hateful and eventually easy to kill --which is what the kulak campaign actually did. Look at the images --they're aimed at the same brain chemistry.

http://www.soviethistory.org/index.php?page=subject&show=images&SubjectID=1929collectivization&Year=1929&navi=byYear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QtILBeOMYI

Ghastley perverted crap --and exactly where the little Asner video is meant to lead.

The video is from here,

[urlhttp://www.collectingsoviethistory.com/2012_07_01_archive.html[/url]

which, scroll down, shows you and me hanging at the end of a rope.

Mary Tyler Moore shoulda pushed his fat ass out a window.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=boris+pasternak+doctor+zhivago&form=IE8SRC&src=IE-SearchBox