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Wednesday, September 5. 2012
Deep thinker Alec Baldwin thinks Obama would be 17 points up in the polls if he were white. I think he'd be 17 points down if he were white. His skin tone is a large part of his appeal, I believe.
Dem delegates ecstatic about “belonging to govt.” Key ideological rift pinpointed.
That's one more government-centric meme as foolish as "you didn't build that." The serf-like attitude seems to pervade the Dem party this year.
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Hey, gotta play the race card any time it's presented.
Obama wouldn't be in the race if he were white. He knows he'd never have gotten out of the primaries.
Alec isn't exactly astute and if he believes the claim Romney is "out of touch" with America, I have no idea what he thinks he is. I guess because we get to laugh at his TV appearances, he feels he has a connection.
To be fair, they used the term "belong" in the sense of 'belonging to a club' - a voluntary membership, in other words.
I don't know about anyone else, but I never joined the government. I didn't voluntarily say "OK, this looks good, so sign me up." In fact, most times I say "why the hell can't they get out of my life?"
I see where they were going with this, but they got it all twisted. The essential flaw of the Democrats is their belief that government is all-powerful need for all people's lives. I say it's a useful adjunct that should be treated with a measure of respect, but greater measures of caution and fear.
"To be fair, they used the term "belong" in the sense of 'belonging to a club' - a voluntary membership, in other words."
To be honest, many of them have embraced the ownership interpretation, and I believe that's what they meant originally. We're talking about the party of Eric Holder, who has apparently blocked investigations into "human trafficking" (slavery) and the left, which has people who protest IN FAVOR OF SEX SLAVERY.
Many of them have, I don't disagree.
But most have not. That is precisely why the language was crafted in the touchy-feely 'you and I belong to the same CLUB!' BS. Hey, when you put it that way, yeah I wanna belong, too!
Umm, well, it's not so simple. Most people actually don't want to belong to a club that would have them as a member (thank you, Groucho), but so many people have low self-esteem, joining up with others to 'belong to the government club' sounds like a whole lotta fun!
This is clearly where the Dems seek to make their mark, with people whose self-esteem is so low, they can grab a few extra votes by making them feel as if they 'belong'. Feh.
Well, if government is a "club", why do some members have to pay to belong while others not only get in free, they get money FROM the club to belong? I've never heard of a club like that. It sounds like discrimination to me. If that's the way things go in the Democrats' world view, I can do without belonging to such a club, thank you very much, and instead I prefer to keep the annual "membership fee" the IRS forces me to pay to the membership committee of this very non-exclusive "club".
I agree, but Democrats don't. Their club is all about making someone else pay for others' problems. The natural extension, for them, is forcing others to join the club to cover the bills they've created for themselves.
I agree with Bulldog, he would have never gotten out of the Primaries.
If he were white he'd be down, because people would look at his agenda and policies.
If he was white, he wouldn't get 95% of the black vote.
Where's Zachriel to tell us yes, he would?
Democratic Presidential candidates' share of the Black vote were 88% in 2004 and 90% in 2000 . It's a pretty good bet that a white Democratic Presidential candidate would get 90% of the Black vote this year. Which is not 95%.
Though with 16% Black unemployment, would Blacks vote for a white Demo candidate in the same percentages?
Good word, NJ, that 'serf-like' --they could work up a campaign tune, Serfin' USA, by the Beached Boys.
Well, we're weeks away from the anniv-ursery of the MF Global bankruptcy (and attendant Miracle of the Missing Money), and hours away from Bill Clinton's con ventionspeech, so this is real apropos, if offthread, i think:
(sorry, maggie decided against a hyperlink)
As reported by Drudge, a photo from Reuters of a political button seen at the Dem convention: "Once You Vote Black, You Never Go Back. OBAMA 2012"
How very classy. Even forgetting the sexual connotations of the original from which this was derived, doesn't this show beyond a doubt that the Dems are racists? Race is on their minds 24/7. It's all about race, nothing but race. Can you imagine the outcry from the Libs if a Republican delegate at their convention last week had sported a button that said "Be Bright, Vote White"?
"I think he'd be 17 points down if he were white. His skin tone is a large part of his appeal, I believe."
Really? I would have thought he'd be 37 points down in that case.
But don't worry. Maybe Gandalf will show up with some tough fighters and save Romney's butt from Obama's orcs.
Until then, Romney needs to abandon his cheap ways, open his treasure chest, and start spending all that campaign money he supposedly raised.
So far, I'm unimpressed with the creativity of Romney's experts, advisors, and happy warriors.
Clinton: The Comeback Kid. Now Romney and Ryan: America's Comeback Team. Give me a break.
I expect Romney's current consultants to copy Coca-Cola next: "Things to better with Mitt."
The assumption by Democrats is that the US remains an essentially racist nation, so of course being black is a detriment.
But racism as a theme is ancient news. There are pockets of racism, I won't deny it exists in certain places. But generally speaking it isn't the driving force.
I know many people who voted for Obama for only one reason - to say "I voted for a black man." I am not making this up. They never came out and admitted this, but when you hear someone say "I don't really like him, but I think having a black president would be good for the nation." Well, you connect the dots. His color does play a role in his appeal.
Of course, some (not all) of those people today are saying "I still don't like him, but Romney is just a rich guy and he's going to steal our money." Or something to that effect. As if Obama isn't stealing it already, but let's not obscure the discussion with facts, the fact is people who voted for him because he was black are now seeking to rationalize their behavior of 4 years ago by finding reasons to either not vote, or vote for him again.
Hopefully, most of them won't vote, and the racism inherent in the original decision will become apparent.
I frankly don't give a damn what color he is. I find it hilarious every time the "RACISM" scream goes up. I can't quite square how I can like JC Watts, Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, and a host of other black people (not to mention the ones I work with), but for some reason, the only reason I have for not liking Obama MUST BE racism.
I guess I'm just in denial.
I disagree that "The assumption by Democrats is that the US remains an essentially racist nation". I think it is more accurate to say "The assumption by Democrats is that they can get votes by convincing their base that the US remains an essentially racist nation". The race thing is a trumped up arguement just as the war on women is. They trot it out every election and then put it away until the next election.
damn --it's catching on fast --heard it twice in three seconds already