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Friday, June 15. 2012
Watch video to see how the Obama Administration treats former allies. House Church Christians are brutally repressed in Vietnam and hundreds of Christian prisoners rot in Vietnam's gulags and the Obama administration doesnt have the decency to mention them in their human rights reports.In fact for the FIRST TIME EVER - in 2012 the US State Department deleted ALL references to religious persecution in its Vietnam human rights reports, downplaying religious freedom and human rights in nothing but a cowardly display of betrayal.
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Obama imports America-hating Muslims and ignores proven allies.
My disgust is unbounded.
unfortunately Obama and his commie cohorts are soul mates of the North Vietnamese totalitarians not the indigenous Christians.
Bill is quite right...our domestic enemies will need some international support when they do the same here.
I'm not a fan of the Bambi administration, but I dislike false reporting. the US hasn't deleted all references to religious persecution from its human rights reports. as cited below, there are two, a Country Report and a Religious Freedom Report.
United States Department of State, 2011 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - Vietnam, 24 May 2011 (from the UN website)
"c. Freedom of Religion
See the Department of State's 2010 International Religious Freedom Report."
with this link:
United States Department of State, July-December, 2010 International Religious Freedom Report - Vietnam, 13 September 2011
there are extensive, detailed, factual reports of restrictions on religious freedoms and abuses. e.g.,
"Several hundred parishioners protested the demolition of a large concrete cross by police at the Dong Chiem Catholic parish in January. Police dispersed the crowd with tear gas and beat approximately a dozen individuals. Two weeks later a Catholic monk was beaten unconscious by police as he tried to enter the Dong Chiem parish near where the cross was demolished.
The government continued to assert that some ethnic minorities or Montagnards in the Central Highlands were operating a "Dega" church. The government accused the Dega churches of calling for the creation of an independent Montagnard state. The SECV and house churches in the provinces of Dak Lak, Gia Lai, Kon Tum, Binh Phuoc, Phu Yen, and Dak Nong continued to experience government scrutiny because of feared association with separatist groups overseas."
what's the point of making such patently false claims? Little Barry is incompetent enough without having to resort to lies about his administration, lies that make the opposition look like liars themselves.
It is NOT false reporting, (I am correct) and what your have done is quote from older reports (from last year). The State Department's LATEST 2012 report has in fact "dropped" the sectionsof religious freedom FIRST TIME EVER this year.
The older reports too while mentioning religious persecution always watered the issues down. But NOW they taken a incredible downturn.
Because religious persecution is worsening the US State Department is trying to "separate"religious persecution from political (by its own made up definition) in order to downplay human rights violations.
Its purely political manipulation by a hypocritical administration. = Betrayal and more betrayal. and the Obama/Clinton people are all too cowardly to do anything about it.
Without a doubt the US State Dept has refused to acknowledge the hundreds of Montagnard prisoners.
the reporting is dishonest your entire claim about nefarious government intentions is cut out of whole cloth, pure speculation and entirely inconsistent with the facts:
Reports for 2006, 2007 and 2008 all make passing or no references to Montagnards. All of these reports have some detailed information on specific religious abuses, but none of them are as nearly as detailed or specific as the 2010 report cited by the government in its more recent report. if the government wanted to suppress this information, it wouldn't have linked to its own United States Department of State, July-December, 2010 International Religious Freedom Report - Vietnam, 13 September 2011
Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 2006
dated March 6, 2007
no mention of Montagnards, discussion on religious persecution not as detailed as the government's 2010 report.
Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 2007
Released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor
March 11, 2008
one reference to Montagnards who were amnestied by the government. discussion on religious persecution not as detailed as 2010 report.
2008 Human Rights Reports: Vietnam
BUREAU OF DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND LABOR
2008 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices
February 25, 2009
references to two Montagnard individuals. discussion on religious persecution not as detailed as government's 2010 report.
ill-informed anti-bambi claims don't help and make the opposition look as bad as the government.
the report is false, and I'm guessing intentionally so.
I will repeat again: (Firstly I am correct) and you should not try to defend betrayal and their cowardly actions. But let me explain again. The US State Department dropped the "religious persecution" section from its HR reports THIS YEAR. This is the first time that they did so and I am NOT referring to the previous reports!! (thus no need to mention them again) however, I will say the previous reports are watered down and deliberetly incomplete and repeatedly fail to specifically mention the "over 350" Montagnard Christian prisoners because they doesnt want them to complicate the political situation with Vietnam.
I wont go into too much detail on these reports on Vietnam other than to say they are unsatifactory and written more as if to benefit the Vietnamese repressive regime than the victims. I will defend this answer and on the balance of evidence WILL WIN on this.
Further, the US Federal Agency - US Commission on International Religious Freedom has also reported SPECIFICALLY on this issues stating " The State Department's standard for determining who is a religious ‘prisoner of concern' draws an arbitrary line between 'political' and 'religious' activity not found in international human-rights law."
In other words a US Federal Agency is saying the State Depart is making up its own rules....
As I've said the State Department is GUILTY of betrayal and the Obama/Clinton administration is complicit in betraying the "HUNDREDS" of Montagnard prisoners.
I am absolutely correct and the Obama/Clinton administration is guilty of betrayal.
From another angle, Clint Eastwood's film Gran Torino is a great piece of moviemaking, but the backdrop is is the Hmong tribe of the Vietnam, Laos, China, Thailand mountain highlands. The large number of America-friendly Hmong who to escape revenge of the communists in the war's end, with the help of American church groups moved to the upper midwest.
Note the help of Harvard in entering a soviet atrocity into the history books as just another 'controversy'.
PacRim Jim - Bingo! obama is quietly importing tens of thousands of muslim "refugees" from Gaza and Somalia on the taxpayers' dime. Meanwhile Montagnards in Thai refugee camps are tossed aside as were the freedom fighters on the beaches of the Bay of Pigs.