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Saturday, November 12. 2011Election 2012: Spartanburg debate tonight
Of course, because microwave transmissions heat up the air and thus cause global warming, they can only broadcast for an hour at a time, so you might have to scramble if you want to watch the last half-hour.
It looks like it's being streamed on the CBS News site. The good news is that the debate's main topic isn't something crashingly boring like economics or Social Security. Tonight's 'primary' focus (get it?) will be on national security, and I'm eager to see how Cain defends his plan to put electrified barbed wire along the top of the southern border wall. The moderators will probably label it 'cruel', but it's really just a matter of how much voltage is applied. A mild, paralyzing shock never hurt anyone. It'll also be about foreign affairs, so all Ron Paul advocates within the reach of this blog site are strongly urged to miss this one at any cost. I'd suggest a small hammer blow to the forearm or hand, just enough to warrant an hour and a half visit to the hospital. I promise you, the pain you'll feel will be much less than if you'd stayed home. The question is how the audience will respond when Paul outlines his plan to distribute America's nuclear arsenal to every country in the world so that all nations can be equal, thus ending war forever. The audience might go for that, but they'll probably stop short when he suggests we rename Washington, D.C. to Ahmadinejadville. That guy really knows how to push boundaries, doesn't he? As far as who's hosting the show besides CBS, we're in luck. It's some magazine called the 'National Journal' and it appears from their web site to be quite fair and evenhanded, which is just what we need after the CNBC Attack Machine went into overdrive last Wednesday. Hold on, let me grab a quick screen shot: Yep, looks fair and balanced to me. Actually, I thought they went a little easy on Perry, but maybe they're trying to show that they're above picking on him just because he had a small memory lapse in the last debate, although it's doubtful any professional media organization would ever stoop that low. The fair and impartial extravaganza begins at 8 pm EST on your local Cave Man Channel. Trackbacks
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Well, hopefully the LSU Homecoming game against Western Kentucky will be all wrapped up and over with by the second half so I can watch it.
This could be a very good chance for Perry to shine if he has the wits and courage to stay cool and calm. I didn't think his last "fox paws" was endearing at all - the three main points of his deficient reduction plan was eliminating those departments - it's been in position papers, stump speeches, interviews. That stumble was a very real screwup. He obviously wasn't paying attention and his mind wandered off trying to think ahead while speaking - not a positive character trait. I just remembered something from back in the day - you remember McNamara's Wall or Project Dye Marker? I wonder if Cain is thinking about something like that? No, don't recall anything about McNamara's Wall. You mean JFK's SecDef? Want to elaborate?
Yeah - it had a bunch of different names (most of which were made up by 3rd Division Marines and they weren't complimentary ones), but the three that are officially recognized McNamara's Wall, Project Dye Marker and the Electric Fence. The later was the final official name.
It was a 50/60 mile stretch of the Ho Chi Minh trail. It was supposed to be a passive surveillance system (radar, sonic receivers, "tremblers", etc.) but parts of it were "active" - trip wire, electrified barbed wire entanglements - there were even land mine emplacements. It was supposed to discourage infiltration - HA! How'd that work out for him? It was really more of a curiosity question than anything. While the Electric Fence was really an "electric" in one sense, it was called that and there is some confusion about what it actually was - it wasn't completely electric. "How'd that work out for him?"
Welcome to the U.S. military's first experience, after 200 years, with jungle warfare. Personally, I thought they were on the right track with Agent Orange. They should have dropped leaflets over the entire northern part of the country saying, "Get your ass below Phai Kwan before January 1st or we're going to fry your ass", then used the entire fleet of Flying Fortresses to dump 300 billion gallons of Agent Orange on the place. Wait six months. Voila! Now they can kick ass, just like they did in Europe a few decades earlier. Why learn a whole new style of warfare when the solution is only a fleet of Flying Fortresses away? It's just so easy to be smart in retrospect, isn't it? Dr Mercury, Agent Orange killed and disabled more Americans than anyone in our government wants to admit. The long term problems from that defoliant are attacking vets even today. Uncle really isn't taking care of our vets with disabilities from Agent Orange.
The big question was why were we in Vietnam in the first place. The Domino Theory was proven to be a false theory just as our current theories on war fighting are being proven false. As a note, Vietnam wasn't our first war in the jungles in 200 years. America was fighting in the jungles in Africa, Asia, Central and South America for years before Vietnam.
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Dave
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2011-11-12 19:47
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Dave - Yes, I know the whole Agent Orange story. Took decades before the VA would even admit the symptoms existed.
I meant "jungle war" as in war-war, not just skirmishes. War with a capital 'W', where every branch gets involved. Vietnam was so lame it was considered a 'police action'. Sorry, I don't think Nam was considered a "police action" by the people who suffered that draft and didn't return home.
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jma
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2011-11-12 22:21
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So, this is the new norm? The Republican fish willingly jump into the barrel on a weekly basis, or more, and allow the PR advance teams of their eventual opponent to shoot at them for sport... there must be a less expensive, more efficient method of committing character suicide than running for president.
If there is, no one's discovered it yet. :)
But, to clarify your observation, that would be "no more efficient method than running as a Republican for president." Say, I just had an idea. Run as a Democrat, get the fawning media to cover up or gloss over your past sins, win the election, then, right after they administer the oath of office, turn to the TV cameras and say, "Actually, after long and careful consideration, I've decided to change my party affiliation to Republican and now espouse all good conservative values. EPA, you've been warned." Well, it's a thought. Hey, its not like it hasn't happened before.
Ok, maybe not at the Presidential level, but it is possible. From the page:
– Rodney Alexander, U.S. Representative from Louisiana (his switch just before the filing deadline prevented the Democrats from fielding a viable replacement candidate) Nasty! On the subject, that was one of the cuter things that Perry said during one of the first debates. Some candidate decided to spit on Reagan's 11th Commandment and accused Perry of having once been a Democrat, and Perry replied that Ronald Reagan had also once been a Dem, and that he had switching to the Republican Party at an earlier age than Reagan had. Oops. QUOTE: EPA, you've been warned ...or one of those three (5?) government agencies.Vern - Covering how many states, 50 or 57? You've got to be clear, Vern. Details like this count.
As far as how many government agencies to cut, it depends on who you're talking about. Here's the latest list: Perry - 3 Paul - 5 Cain - 6 Bachmann - 8 Gingrich - 16,427 So, looking at your handle, I take it you live in the Golden State? Just a crusty, jolly old new englander... and does it count as 3 fer 1 if we shutter ATF first?
Ah, got it. "Vernal Pool" is a CA thing, but 'Vern' is about as Down East as one can get. Name of my girlfriend when I was in New Hampshire? Verna Dawn.
Or 'Vernal Dawn', to complete the circle. "and does it count as 3 fer 1 if we shutter ATF first?" Ah, a very interesting question. I'd argue for 'yes' in a court of law, noting how the very name, itself, stands for three completely different fields, but I can see the other side winning by pointing out that 'ATF' is the name, singular, of the organization, and singular only means one. But I like your thinking. Good work. :) Actual government funded activity:
Taxpayer Advocacy Panel: "TAP’s accomplishments in 2010, including 101 new recommendations and 34 completed projects the panel provided to the IRS. The Wall Street Journal article, “IRS Reminds Workers They Can’t Demand Turning Off Speakerphone,” highlights one of TAP’s recommendations agreed to by the IRS." NO WAY MAN!! Vietnam Education Foundation: The Vietnam Education Foundation (VEF) is an independent federal agency created by the U.S. Congress and funded annually by the U.S. Government. Its mission is to strengthen the U.S.-Vietnam bilateral relationship through educational exchanges in science and technology. You'll never guess who is on the Board of Directors on that one - CT's very own war hero and Vietnam veteran Richard Blumenthal. Go through some of these - they'll make your eyes cross. "they'll make your eyes cross."
Gosh, it sure is nice having online friends. Yesterday, my good friend Buddy Larson sent me a treasured link to an Elizabeth Warren site, and there went dinner, and now you want my eyes to bleed. I'm... (wiping tear from soon-to-be-bloody eye) ...I'm just so touched by all the attention. I guess you guys really, really like me! (H/T Sally Field) BTW, what did you think of the Geraldo clip the other day? Dear Doc Murk, you have made me a Swede. The American people want to know if their Maggie's commenter is a Swede or not. Well I am NOT a Swede. I have never spent a prairie winter locked in the barn, drinking, fondling a shotgun, and muttering to the livestock. No, I am a Norwegian, the people who gave the world the Herring Net, and made it almost to the twenty-first century without last names or an alphabet
I did it to protect you, old friend. If you say, "Hi, I'm Buddy, son of Lars", then people figure you're a Westerner. But if you say, "Hi, I'm Buddy, sen of Lars", then that makes you look Chinese, and I figured between the two of them, you'd rather stay on our half of the world.
As far as that cat fight you and those Fin-bitch neighbors of yours are having, you have my sympathy. Best of luck in your ongoing struggle to reach the truth. well, Aurora Borealis is just a stage name anyway. Her real name is Darlene Schmidt and she has quit dancing in favor of palmistry as Madame Katrina Voodoo. But if those reindeer-humping dwarfs won't quit, ve vill fight dem to da finnish, jah ve vill, you betchum!
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buddy larsen
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2011-11-13 08:32
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Dear Sen of Lars:
I read your comment with great interest and was left with only one question: How do they find boxes high enough to stand on? They'be been queried on that topic. They will admit nothing, even tho the evidence --herds of reindeer lounging around the countryside having a cigaret --is indubitable. They shift blame when confronted. "Somebody put us up to it" they say.
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buddy larsen
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2011-11-13 10:38
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