We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
This is an awesome admission of categorical intellectual, political and
moral failure. For two decades greens have arrogated to themselves the
authority of science and wrapped themselves in the arrogant certainty of
self-righteous contempt for those who oppose them. They have equated
skepticism about their incoherent and contradictory policy proposals
with hatred of science and attacked their critics as the soulless hired
shills of the oil companies, happy to ruin humanity for the sake of some
He quotes Monbiot:
“All of us in the environment movement, in other words – whether we
propose accommodation, radical downsizing or collapse – are lost. None
of us yet has a convincing account of how humanity can get out of this
mess. None of our chosen solutions break the atomising, planet-wrecking
project. I hope that by laying out the problem I can encourage us to
address it more logically, to abandon magical thinking and to recognise
the contradictions we confront. But even that could be a tall order.”
So many people refused to drink the Kool Aid. I'd like to see the enviros and greenies get back to the sorts of rational conservation efforts which prosperous societies are the best at doing - and truly do care about. Conservation, minus the Socialism and totalitarian aspirations.
It is so much more than this admission by George Monbiot. It is a total repudiation on their intellectual schematic by a well documented, thoroughly researched, and intellectual take down of all that they know to be true, It is the Shale Gas Shock!
In a bygone day, dependance upon the light of the moon was though to lead to a sense of mental instability when the current phase kept it out of the night sky. It was called Lunacy.
So, to our esteemed Greenies, their reliance upon their 'moon', and the failure to make others 'dependent for its light', is comical. I hear Sam Kinison speaking ever time a Greenie lectures us on or harmful habits.
I'm all for taking care of where you live, using the resources smartly, and not mucking up the place, but, their complete Luddie mentality against everything we embrace in the modern world is, well, mental.
I'll heed the lecture when all these hypocrites stop traveling by Lear jet, and riding to their presentations in motorcades of limos and Tahoe s
"So many people refused to drink the Kool Aid. I'd like to see the enviros and greenies get back to the sorts of rational conservation efforts which prosperous societies are the best at doing - and truly do care about. Conservation, minus the Socialism and totalitarian aspirations."
BD, with respect, these people are irredeemable. They will seldom renounce their articles of faith, and we can't waste our time trying to change them.
"Think of how much good could have been done in true conservation with even a tenth of the $ western countries have thrown at this complete bullshit."
"I'm all for taking care of where you live, using the resources smartly, and not mucking up the place, but, their complete Luddie mentality against everything we embrace in the modern world is, well, mental."
Outstanding insights! Right on the button.
I remember when "conservationist" or "conservation officer" made me think of a professional who was paid to manage our natural resources with an eye toward balance. Balance between societies needs today and in the future with preservation of wildlife and habitat - "nature" if you will.
Somehow with the addition of "activists" and the usual cheap drama and overblown hype, possibly driven by cash from elements who would profit from carbon credit schemes, it became "religionized" and holds no interest for me because it has no validity.
Conservation starts local. I recycle trash, I plant and maintain my property and garden for my family and the local birds and wildlife with an eye toward water conservation and recyling of garden refuse. I stay away from garden chemicals (but am not on the organic bandwagon), I volunteer with the local forest preserve to eliminate invasive plant species, I stop to pick up trash when fishing in the local lakes and streams, I could go on but the bottom line is - I care about and I take care of my little piece of the world - as should we all.
(That having been said, I have been known to flick a cigar ash into the petunias).
We need to get rid of the "activism" (= negativism) mentality and get back to basics.
Thanks for confirming that for me George. Some people think it's crazy to suggest that they don't really care about the environment and are just utilizing useful idiots to help crash the system so they can replace it with something just a little more totalitarian.