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NJ’s Stupid Stupid Gun Laws
Via Maggie’s Farm here’s a very sad story about the stupid gun laws here in NJ Sue Aitken called the police because she was worried about her son, Brian. She now lives with the guilt of knowing that her phone call is the reason Brian spent ...

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Three cheers for Soros moving to China...
but hearing him speak chinese might be better.

#1 RickTn on 2010-11-17 12:04 (Reply)

Oh please, Mr. Soros, please move to China. Permanently. At least China is open about its wish to take over America. I'd pay the Chinese to keep him.

Marianne

#2 Marianne Matthews on 2010-11-17 12:07 (Reply)

I'd help him (Soros) pack! but Marianne, I disagree with you, Soros is pretty open about his wish to take over the US (or have his minions do it for him).

As an aside, dictatorships are always more efficient governing systems (I take 'better functioning' to mean 'more efficient'). We'll see how they handle the imbalances they are creating in their economy. They are walking a pretty fine line. If things go south there, there would likely be HUGE problems for the regime.

#3 mudbug on 2010-11-17 12:43 (Reply)

"As an aside, dictatorships are always more efficient governing systems (I take 'better functioning' to mean 'more efficient')."

Are they?

#3.1 JJM on 2010-11-18 09:08 (Reply)

I agree with just about everything that Maggie's Farm posts. But I draw the line at sending money to Wikipedia.

Why?

Because William Connolley heavily edits, and routinely censors subjects connected with "climate change," propagandizing for the U.N.'s view. He is no different than George Soros, and every bit as devious.

Much better to send Jimmy Wales a message: remove Connolley permanently, and then ask for donations.

Connolley has supposedly been banned by Wikipedia on several occasions for ethical violations and for violating Wikipedia policy. But the bans have never been enforced.

For more information, see the internet's "Best Science" site:

http://wattsupwiththat.com

Put "connolley" into the search box. You'll see what's going on.

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#4 Smokey (Link) on 2010-11-17 14:14 (Reply)

I agree with Maggie; yall need to scrub the floors.

#5 Leag on 2010-11-17 14:54 (Reply)

Why the hate?

Yall yanks need to learn some tolerance, hear?

The mucks are sweaty and hot and going to stone the devil.

America and Israel are the devil in their irreligion but yall need be tolerant.

It's very difficult being a Muhammadan.

#6 Leag on 2010-11-17 15:01 (Reply)

New Jersey man gets seven years for being a dumbass.

Dumbass for not knowing gun law even after study.

Dumbass for crying to mommy.

Dumbass for returning to her house with weapons of mass destruction.

Dumbass for hiring a dumbass attorney.

Dumbass for wanting to live in New Jersey.

What a schmuck.

#7 Leag on 2010-11-17 15:10 (Reply)

Leag, if being a schmuck is worth 7 years, you'd be doing 7 life sentences --consecutively, not concurrently --

#7.1 buddy larsen on 2010-11-17 15:37 (Reply)

Boo, i don't wait fer yall to understand, dumbass violated the law, given yall's stated IQ.

#7.1.1 Leag on 2010-11-17 16:10 (Reply)

You might want to actually read the article.

He did know the laws (it is lawful to transport guns when moving. He was moving stuff from his mom's house to his apartment.)

It wasn't his attorney that was a dumbass but the judge and the previous governor. The judge refused to allow exculpatory evidence and the previous gov. signed a ridiculous law that made possessing a gun as unlawful as using it against innocents.

You have a VERY strange idea of "weapons of mass destruction". You have a warped sense of "mass" and "destruction" (at least).

The ONLY reason I could imagine moving to New Jersey is to be closer to my kid. That's what he did.

A guy is in the slammer for seven years for doing the right thing and you call him a schmuck. I'd say, you two ought switch places.

#7.2 mudbug on 2010-11-17 16:14 (Reply)

Read the article all by meself, mudbug.

Yall say, "He was moving stuff from his mom's house to his apartment."

Judge heard all the evidence and said he was doing something quite different, which different rouses chorus of yankee drivel that he was being responsible; moving guns from drunken household.

He knew what the ridiculous law was and violated anyway.

That ain't doin' right thing, ridiculous yankee even if the ridiculous yankee Judge thinks so.

Yall get good time in yankee land, mudbug?

If'n yall do; Aitken can rehabilitate hisself, stop being dumbass and get out early.

Ain't movin' to quick fer yall, mudbug?

#7.2.1 Leag on 2010-11-17 17:13 (Reply)

Didn't know you were moving at all.

It's kind of hard to follow something that isn't moving but let me try:

So he's a dumbass for moving to NJ to be with his kid, he's a dumbass for having a gun in his car, he's a dumbass because the judge interpreted his evidence differently and then disallowed it in court rather than letting the jury decide.

Whereas you are a genius because his unloaded pistols were "weapons of mass destruction".

Assuming that he was transporting his guns from the "drunken household" you the genius would have elected to leave them there.

But that's assuming you would be in NJ with your son. You, the genius would still be in Colorado because you don't like NJ.

#7.2.1.1 mudbug on 2010-11-17 17:53 (Reply)

Obviously i's movin' way too quick for yall.

Me thinks yall need to find yerself a man, sister mudbug.

#7.2.1.1.1 Leag on 2010-11-17 17:59 (Reply)

mudbug,

Feeding the troll won't help. Especially if his reading comprehension is as feeble as his spelling and grammar.

I live in the Peoples Socialist Soviet of California, and that story shocked even me. (I guess I'll have to buy my allotted one handgun per month to make myself feel better☺) But I will sure steer clear of New Jersey after this – where the police and the Mafia have exclusive rights to possess the guns, and the citizens can't be trusted.

And at least that judge has been booted out of office, so he can't do any more judicial damage.

#7.2.1.1.2 Smokey (Link) on 2010-11-17 19:30 (Reply)

What yall be smokin', Smokey?

Raygun's Soviet is no improvement over New jersey but since yall are getting wet for Brian; i'll shoot yall his addy in case he wants to marry one of yall ladies.

Mid-State Correctional Facility
Brian Aitken SBI 737585C
P.O. Box 866 Range Road
Wrightstown, NJ 08562

#7.2.1.1.2.1 Leag on 2010-11-18 13:54 (Reply)

Given yall's diminished capacity i'll shoot yall a handout;

According to DOC records, he was convicted of:

2C:39-3f - possession of hollow-nose bullets
2C:39-3j - possession of a large-capacity magazine
2C:39-5b - possession of a handgun without a permit to carry

Me thinks, dumbass applies to each bullet, sweetheart.

#7.2.1.1.3 Leag on 2010-11-18 14:01 (Reply)

Leag, how would YOU like it if hollow-nose skulls and large-capacity dumbass were made felonies and called for prison?

#7.2.1.1.3.1 buddy larsen on 2010-11-18 16:33 (Reply)

Boo, twas brillig and the slythy toves did gyre...

Take some aspirin and a nap.

#7.2.1.1.3.1.1 Leag on 2010-11-19 12:18 (Reply)

PS; mudbug me could switch if'n Aitkens pays enough and promises to keep his mommy away.

#7.2.2 Leag on 2010-11-17 17:54 (Reply)

'take Friedman with you' sez BD, but he don't mean THIS Friedman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gppi-O3a8

#8 buddy larsen on 2010-11-17 15:35 (Reply)

Boo, yall understand trifling some, yall's kiddy garden teacher?

#8.1 Leag on 2010-11-17 16:20 (Reply)

Being one of those "dumbasses"? myself, who moved back to NJ from Va, I have just written a letter to Governor Christie asking if he would be so kind as to apply a little common sense to the case.
I have also offered to work with him to change the state laws relative to firearms ownership and possession that were put in place by a number of ignorant, feeble minded, tyrants many years ago.

#9 Bonasa on 2010-11-17 17:37 (Reply)

struck me that the judge clearly decided on matters of fact --which is in the jury bailiwick, the judge being charged only to instruct and execute on matters of law. This was ''lawfare''.

http://www.thelawfareproject.org/

#10 buddy larsen on 2010-11-18 06:16 (Reply)

Struck yall after or before yall considered all the evidence, Boo?

Most probably over yall armchair lawyers comprehension but just for shits and giggles: how is it a Judge may direct a verdict in jury trial if he cannot determine the truth from facts?

Hmmmm?

Take yall's time boo and mudbug and smokey.

Let me know when yall can come together, ladies.

#10.1 Leag on 2010-11-18 12:14 (Reply)

Leag, let me help you catch up with us: The rulebook, the courtroom procedure, is the foundational bedrock heart of the jury concept. The judge referees, instructs and invokes the pertinent Law --but the jury hears the testimony and decides the matters of fact in the case.

The 'case' is called a 'case' because it is like a boxful of un-named stuff sitting in the middle of an abstract entity where the Rule is that everything must be unpacked and named --i.e., the courtroom of Law.

In a jury trial, jury makes judgment on case facts, judge makes circumscribed ('encircled by text') judgment on Law facts.

The judge is a 'jurist', the state's referee in a contest of the peerage. Judge keeps the matters of fact within their legal scope, or within the jurist diction, the 'jurisdiction'.

I'm afraid the seeming contra indicating terms are angrying up your blood and making it stall in your pointy little head. But here, you're a religion guy (BTW, 're ligio' = the 'ties that bind'), this Thomas Moore quote is apt to the Law and the Jury and the tension thereof:

"Etsi angelus scribit, sunt diaboli qui imprimunt"

"Though an angel shall write, still 'tis the devils must print"

===

what burns us sentient folks is that this noble and hard-won opus magisterium is being coarsened and flattened by crappy judges with political agendae --which mix of oil and water is poison to our nation as it has been conceived designed and hammerforged.

All better now?

#10.1.1 buddy larsen on 2010-11-18 13:56 (Reply)

Boo, i already understood yall's bias for felonoious acts but will credit yall for a response.

However, 'tain't goin' to warrant a passin' grade as yall ain't answered the question.

How's it yall be so wanton regarding religion, Boo?

Too much crawfish, perhaps?

#10.1.1.1 Leag on 2010-11-18 14:15 (Reply)

Nimrod had a religion, too --to build The Tower to the sky. When you support the judge in that case against the victim of tyranny Aitken, you are a brickmaker for Nimrod, regardless of whatever else you may fancy yourself.

#10.1.1.1.1 buddy larsen on 2010-11-18 16:02 (Reply)

Soros: "Today China has not only a more vigorous economy, but actually a better functioning government than the United States..."

Soros only sees the part of the Chinese government that matters to him; perhaps he might do better looking at how it operates at the most local level, say, way out there in the boondocks like some small town in Qinghai province.

There is quite a considerable disparity between the glittering towers of the Shanghai waterfront and the lives of most ordinary Chinese in the vast hinterland.

I seriously doubt that, across the board, China's government operates any better than anyone else's. In many cases, simply because there is neither much political give-and-take nor much accountability, it probably does a poorer job.

#11 JJM on 2010-11-18 09:21 (Reply)

Boo, hast thou slain the Jabberwock, my son?

Never avered support for either dumbass.

However, yall have without even being at trial.

Jury of peers convicted the boy Judge didn't.

#12 Leag on 2010-11-19 12:34 (Reply)

because the judge disallowed exculpatory evidence, mein herr moron.

"Das da Pernt o de WHOLE ting!"

#12.1 buddy larsen on 2010-11-19 13:11 (Reply)

Boo, yall continue to assume yall know any thing about trial participant's motives and inner thoughts and only parrot Palko and Nappan.

Felon sitting in jail ain't a responsible and conscientious gun owner regardless how many times Msr. Palko avers he is.

Mr. Nappan may get his day in court for appeal and he can try to fly before same that "New Jersey gun laws are insane," and Judge Morely a devil but i doubt he'll prove to be any more credible an advocate than defense's trial attorney.

Till then, yall can bitch and moan 'cause it delights me over and over and through and through witnessing yall's impotence.

Excuse me, while i take to hall for a belly roar and touch sky.

Yall do stiil have crawdads in field ponds down in Texas, don't yall?

#12.1.1 Leag on 2010-11-19 16:34 (Reply)

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