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Saturday, March 27. 2010
Why believe in a conspiracy when stupidity is explanation enough? With that at the front of my mind as a major caveat to my and others’ conjecture, aside from not knowing what is going on in the privacy of White House meetings, there may actually be a secret purposeful plan behind President Obama’s public undermining of Israel.
Stupidity isn’t enough of an explanation:
First off, there’s every reason to believe Obama’s pledge to be a “transformative” president. Nearly every policy, law and appointment from him and his allies have been distinctly left of those from previous Democrat and Republican administrations.
Second, there’s every reason to believe that Obama and his counsels are aware, how can they not be, of the past refusals by Palestinian leaders to accept offerings, to obstruct negotiations, to foment violence, to foster corruption, to be divided between the violently hostile and the very violently hostile, and that repeated and continuous Israeli concessions and withdrawals have encouraged more of the same from the Palestinians.
Third, there’s every reason to believe that Obama and his advisors are aware of Iran’s impending nuclear status (even the IAEA has finally publicly woken up) and that other MidEast nations are accommodating themselves to Iran, they seeing little likelihood that the US will push for severe enough sanctions in the face of Russian and Chinese opposition and European profits or the US striking Iran’s nuclear installations.
Fourth, there’s every reason to believe that the
Fifth, there’s every reason to believe that President Obama and advisors, some of whom are Jewish, depend upon the Democrat’s base supporters, some of whom are Jewish, to at worst weakly react to the Obama administration undermining
Sixth, there’s a big difference between occasional ignorance or mistakes and a consistent pattern of such, particularly when the facts and errors are so well known.
Yesterday, I had a brief conversation with a very liberal, very smart friend who visits
This morning, Glenn Reynolds similarly conjectured:
I’d add to the above that President Obama may also, not mutually exclusive, be currying favor with the Moslem states in continuation of his seeming belief that rewarding enemies will somehow make them less hostile, particularly in a new world order in which the US is no longer and doesn’t act to be preeminent in its power or actions, regardless of the consequences domestically or abroad.
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We have seen enough of The One to stop trying to figure his motives, but must find ways to STOP him! Pakistan is still the region's largest nut house.
I agree. He's showing what he's really all about. He's going to do as much damage as he can, while he can. It's getting scary.
You guys have to look at this in the context of Biden's humiliation. This is O being a bad politician, but with legitimate reason. Intimation of race hatred is totally inappropriate
To clarify, he has legitimate reasons for his rudeness, but the whole thing appears to be an exercise in political incompetence.
The US is not a preeminent power anymore, hasn't been since the Nixon Shock. What we need is a solid foundational rebuilding of this nation, not empty blustering.
1) It's only stupidity to us - to them, it's consistency of political worldview.
2) Israel is a hotspot - but the O has basically dumped/snubbed a lot of other former allies (UK, Europe, Australia).
The POTUS could urinate on the Prime Minister of Israel's face on network TV in prime time, but if Israel bombs Iran it'll be our fault in the Islamic world. If he thinks he can put enough distance between us and Israel within the next 12 months to counter this he's only fooling himself.
Biden's humiliation, my butt. The administration has known the score in Jerusalem since day one, they are the ones repudiating the previous agreement with Israel regarding settlements. This was a provocation and an arrogant one at that by Obama, he wants his peace settlement done his way, to his timetable, and Israel is the only party he can boss around.
His treatment of Bibi in the White House visit was completely uncalled for, and would be unacceptable treatment of any foreign leader, regardless of the country. And all of the foreign policy gurus and commentators just give him a pass, could you imagine the howling if either Bush or even Bill Clinton had ever done such a thing? We'd be hearing about the clumsy, arrogant cowboy Ugly American bozo for weeks on end.
No, there is no finely-tuned strategy to advance American interests and support our allies. The alliances have been tossed aside as unworthy of the Obama vision of a humbled, ordinary America.
I feared Obama might be the second Jimmy Carter administration, but it's worse than the first McGovern administration.
According to the speculation of an Israeli friend, Kremlin is pulling the mullah's strings, and the whole mullah rhetorical attack on Israel all these years is probably a diversion, a smokescreen, to hide the fact that only KSA stands between Kremlin and Iran setting OPEC and world oil prices wherever they want them.
If KSA's oil production costs (part of KSA's power to menace Russia and Iran's long term future is not just in KSA's reserves but their extremely low production, or 'lifting' costs) and capabilities are the "Caspian Axis" true target --and how could it be otherwise in the global petropolitics --then what Obama is doing is signaling the Caspian Axis that USA will not try to thwart an plan to subdue KSA's OPEC pricing power any way possible.
This would be perfect to satisfy Obama's core constituency, his green left, his marxist right, his progressive center, and his anti-Dollar one-worlder banking plutocrat overlay.
In this line of thought, the mullahs welcome an Israeli attack (which would explain Achmadinejad's otherwise insane hyper-provocative bellicosity), they figure to weather it, and with Obama taking USA out of the picture, Russia will have a green light --if Israel shoots first --to demand a cease fire and get it should Israel begin doing more damage to the mullahs than the plan allows for.
Should it go the other way, and Israel loses, all the better for the true goal: complete control of world oil prices --and probably allocation of supplies as well, behind a Russian missile shield, and now while that missile shield can still guarantee Chinese cooperation --both on oil and on territory in the Russian far east. Now, if it all happens now, Russia has a great, probably final, chance to become the permanant all-time world hegemon that will know how to maintain the world in a cooperative state of being.
If WWII was at least partly an oil war --then that part wasn't completed, due to the oddity of Oceania entering into it and reaching the on the winning side in a Eurasion continental war. In that way, what Obama is doing to Bibi is just an attack in that war --an attack on Oceania, whether or not Obama's philosophy may or may not consider such to be in Oceania's long-term interest in 'getting off foreign oil'.
As many of us feel in our gut, the finish Obama has in mind may be wildly different than anything we have ever been prepared to see as the desire of an American president.
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If WWII was at least partly an oil war --then that part wasn't completed, due to the oddity of Oceania entering into it and effecting the German surrender on the winning side in what began as a Eurasion continental war.
Yes the surprise maybe that Iran fires upon the USA with Russian and Israel takes out Iran. The USA people see Israel as the hero as well as Egypt, Saudi and Arab Eremites. The USA finding out it was double crossed after having Iran as a brief ally..responds by attacking Libya or any Arab states that get into the fray. China stays on the sideline and when it's all over becomes the World's power. Unless Russia, Pakistan and India get into the fray. Then Pakistan goes after India with China by her side. This could be a huge mess and when it all clears perhaps 2/3 of the world's population is gone.
A happier ending will be Israel takes out the Nuclear sites and Iran does not respond by the threat of Russia and China referring and saying you got the bloody nose and lost the fight now stop or we will go after you in order to protect the region's oil supplies. How is that for two scenarios. Obama blames Israel for the trouble and gives Israel the cold shoulder and Israel allies with China. USA's economy tanks and the citizens blame Obama for lousy domestic and International policies and a civil war begins.
The best and final scenario cold be that Iran triggers a mechanism and blows itself up by mistake when placing the atomic centrifuges in place. Then everyone is looking at what happened are clueless and send aid to the country like Haiti to assist the survivors.
it's one thing to decide for one reason or another that a friend struggling in deep water is not worth throwing a line. It's something else if you told him before he swam out there that he could count on you throwing him a line if need be. The former is betrayal, the latter is treacherous betrayal.
"...he has legitimate reasons for his rudeness..."
I think you need to school yourself in the history of development in Israel.
The incident was practically nothing --Obama siezed upon it --with gusto --and blew it up into the 'crisis'. So, even accepting the risible notion that Gasbag Joe could be 'humiliated', then twas his boss who done the humiliatin'.