We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
PBS' Jim Lehrer gets it totally wrong. WTH? Wasn't he alive then? Or is he spinning lying? It was the Repubs who made it possible to pass the civil rights legislation in Congress. Also, Lincoln was a Repub, remember?
I was a kid in the South during the Civil Rights era, and I can remember when Democrats were segregationists and Republicans were in the forefront of pushing for civil rights legislation. It drives my lefty Democrat friends nuts that I've never automatically assumed Democrats were on the side of the angels.
" Save some $ and pay a private doc or private clinic for your care, and avoid the government plantation."
Isn't that illegal in most socialist health care countries? IIRC, Canada had that provision that made it expressly illegal to travel to the U.S. for treatment. I can see that happening here, unless you are one of the protected groups.
OTOH, I already pay three times (actually MORE than three times) for whatever care I require. I pay a local tax for the county hospital (supports indigent care), for ambulance service, 911 emergency service, I pay the premium on my catastrophic health plan, and I cover nigh 100% of the cost of any other medical visit (most of my doctors give me a 'medicare' level discount.)
Last year, my health care costs were nearly $9000 for just the two of us (NOT including the hidden tax costs).... and we were reasonably healthy. (add dentist trips, drug purchases, & vision care expenses) ... the overall vast majority of that being the insurance premium. I had thought about "going bare" and just banking the premium. But, like any 'insurance', its just my bet that I am going to have a heart attack, or cancer, or some other catastrophic illness and the insurance company's bet that I won't.
JoeC ... You make a very good point about individuals saving to pay cash privately to doctors for their own healthcare or surgeries. My husband and I had planned to do just that. I recall that several months ago I read in the Internet that the drunken wienies on the staffs of our politicians, who drafted the health care bills for their bosses, inserted a provision that individual citizens could not make such an arrangement with their doctors, under threat that the doctors would be fined up to $10,000, IIRC, for providing such services on a private basis. Now, I don't claim to have read the 'verdompt' bill through. And few of us have, I suspect, since it changed almost daily before it was voted into law. But I suspect that a bill which contains such amazing provisions as supplying Viagra for convicted sexual predators and rapists is fully likely to contain other such toxic provisions as the one I outlined above. I've been waiting for the grown-ups in Congress to discover this.
Meanwhile, I'll just have to discover a 'black market' doctor, like I'll have to discover a 'black market' incandescent bulb supplier for 2011 and beyond.
Fortunately, I never voted for any of those Democrats in Congress. But that is cold comfort indeed.