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Tuesday, January 19. 2010
There are people who hate me purely because they have learned of my conservative/libertarian political views. Real, venomous hatred, despite the fact that I believe myself to be a friendly, kind, thoughtful, reasonably attractive, socially appropriate, and relatively warm person with a respectable pedigree and well-bred manners.
Truly, and trite as it sounds, some or even most of my best friends are Liberal-ish, and I have never hated anyone for their political views. In social situations, it doesn't even register with me.
I do not understand this hatred, but I admittedly have never spent much time trying to understand it either. It does hurt my feelings, though.
Yes, I am voting for Scott Brown today, and not just because he is a hunk.
"Why are Liberals so condescending?"
Story by Alexander in the WaPo. One quote: ...even with Democratic fortunes on the wane, leading liberals insist that they have almost nothing to learn from conservatives. Many Democrats describe their troubles simply as a PR challenge, a combinat
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The dislike is of the truth. Don't take it personally.
Conservatives believe in perverse consequences. Liberals believe in direct action.
Since most of the problems that can be solved by direction action have been solved already, the problems that are left are those that respond with perverse consequences to direct action, and so conservatives are mostly always right.
"If you're twenty and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you're forty and not a conservative, you have no brains."
I sometimes have very heated arguments with some of my liberal friends and coworkers. Sometimes they will project their hatred of conservatives onto me and will accuse me of hating Obama. What disarms them? I say 'I don't hate Obama...how the hell can I hate somebody I've never personally met or talked to? That's stupid! I disagree with virtually everything he stands for, but am willing to give him credit if it's due. Why do you think that's hatred?'
They usually stammer for an answer because they realize how dumb they sound. Plus they had expected me to be the 'hater'. Fun!
If I am not mistaken if you are not a liberal you may NOT have feelings...
Also, I think what you're describing is an example of herd mentality amongst the left. Reflexive hatred like that is a social indicator or something....I like to read Dr. Sanity's and Dr. Helen's blog for psychological explanations to these issues.
"If you're twenty and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you're forty and not a conservative, you have no brains"
This may have been true at one time. But among our present-day "progressives," there are many who seem to be lacking both heart and brains.
It does not seem to much bother these people, for example, to condemn generation after generation of children to damage or destruction by failed public schools, while refusing either to do anything serious to fix these schools or to allow development of alternatives.
I'm not willing to credit people like this with "heart," however much they congratulate themselves on their moral superiority.
This is an example of the classic "Two-Minute Hate" from George Orwell's 1984.
I think that this Belmont Club commenter's analysis of the Democrats political strategy is about as concise and cogent as I've seen. It squares perfectly with the behavior that we've seen over the past several months and years.
They are desperate for a strong, identifiable enemy because that is the only thing they know how to do, and it is the only thing that can give them some kind of focus.
Hate is an expression of anger. Anger comes from hurt; those who hate you expect you could/will hurt them. You, as a conservative/libertarian, are a threat to all totalitarians and authoritarians, though you understand and promote a degree of social conformity. You replace sheer dictatorial authority (e.g. censorship, enforced fairness, political correctness, mandated equality in all areas of endeavor) with rational governance and civility, a step a true authoritarian considers weak and fraudulent.
Add contempt for females who "don't know their place," and you are in trouble with the most insecure, bigoted and fearful people on earth: authoritarians who are wildly frustrated by their failure to achieve control of all threats. Because they fear and hate Liberty (which is to them loss of control of others) they hate you.
Another way of saying it is that you uphold the individual rather than the collective -- without granting the individual anrachic freedom to prey on others.
Have a nice day.
I do think it has to do with what Pope Benedict XVI called in another context the "human cry for recognition, for belonging, for unity" or "the importance of being noticed" — ur-theme of my blog — from the suicidal monsters who terrorized London to the astronauts who flew to "the stars." As I've blogged early and often, it's all about whom you choose as your peers. More here:
I do think it has to do with what Pope Benedict XVI called in another context the "human cry for recognition, for belonging, for unity" or "the importance of being noticed" — ur-theme of my blog — from the suicidal monsters who terrorized London to the astronauts who flew to "the stars." As I've blogged early and often, it's all about whom you choose as your peers.
NOTE: DAMN, DAMN, DAMN. I tried to include a url and got "Spam Prevention Invalid message."
Self-described (self-posed) "liberals" are often anything but liberal. Sometimes they are among the most bigotted and illiberal people one can ever meet. Those who fit that category have no tolerance for any level of disagreement or difference of opinion.
While I have no data (nor any ability to gather any) to support the following assertion, as best as I can tell this sort of bigoted, illiberal "liberal" is absolutely enamored of the likes of Jon Stewart, David Letterman, and Conan O'Brien. Way beyond enjoying their respective shows - they seem to accept them as some sort of spiritual advisors for somesuch. Very odd. I can't even fathom getting hung up about the current "Leno vs. Conan" war for the late night "comedy" slot at NBC. But they can and some are fully willing to hit the streets over it.
Odd, angry people some of those liberals are.
Call me a rabid dog conservative. It does not matter.
I hate liberals/progressives (sic)/Democrats. I hate them because of their ideas and actions concerning everything from slavery to the purpose of our representative republic. I hate them because they knowingly lie and, plitically, attempt by any and every means to personally destroy conservatives. I hate them for attempting to turn the United States into a socialist state. I hate them for their sense of intitlement to what I've earned. But I especially hate the current occupant of the white house because he empitomizes, is the essence of, liberal (sic) thought.
Contrary to what others say, I firmly believe that one's politics is the extension of one's personality. I have no friends that are liberals nor do I care to associate with liberals in a social setting.
Only a fool would trust a progressive in even minor matters of day to day activity.
Agreed. I hate them because they'd knife you in a heart beat when the chips are down. Liberals are all that way. F*cking losers. gahhhh [kicks garbage can].
I still do not wish ill on them. That is the difference between "us" and "them". They wish ill on almost everyone, including themselves, the little sadistic bastards. They never met a schadenfreude they didn't like.
I have had the same experience as Dr. Joy as I can bet most conservatives have. It is sort of surreal. I have had people who formerly were inviting to their homes for dinner and including me in all their plans suddenly cut me out because I am unapologetic about my beliefs. I view that as the price of admission into the maturity club. Sure it is painful and insulting. Every thing of value to me costs me something and I am willing to pay this price.
I feel no need to psychoanalyze their behavior. It is simply immature and should be ignored. I find that when I endure the separation the cream rises to the top. Meaning the people of quality find away to commune.
I have many friends who find my political views execrable. We mostly get over it. And as for family? my earliest memory of politics is when my aunt told me I was going to die in a hail of nuclear fire because Reagan had been elected (I was six years old). Again, we've stayed friendly despite our differences.
I just got back from voting for Brown. My local polling place has a counter on the voting machine and I was #500 this time as opposed to #850 in a previous election at a similar time. I don't know who a low-turnout election favors.
The libs, democrats or whatever they are called, believe their good intentions make them morally and intellectually superior persons. If you disagree with them you are obviously stupid and evil. Seriously, if you ever watched Dan Rather or Ted Koppel on TV, those guys fairly oozed self righteousness. I always found it repellent.
As The Folk Song Army shows (1965) , the left has long considered itself morally superior.
We are the Folk Song Army.
Everyone of us cares.
We all hate poverty, war, and injustice,
Unlike the rest of you squares.
Tom Lehrer, even though you despised Dubya, I thank you for this and all your songs. They are timeless.
Intellectually superior- recall the crack attributed to Adlai Stevenson. "All the thinking people are behind you, Mr. Setvenson." "Thank you, but I need a majority to win."
Time for the libs to come up with something a little less stale and a little more original.
I read yesterday that a low turnout would favor a Republican. The explanation was that Rebublicans have a stronger sense of civic duty. And that they work and do it on the way from work. Why are most of the well-known liberals so obnoxious? I'm starting to come to the conclusion that they're not nice people. I'm sure there are some nice ones though.
Hate's addictive. It pumps up the endorphins and LOOK OUT, euphoria! It doesn't matter that the whole diversity thing goes out the window when you trip over someone looking at the world differently than you and you whip out righteous hate. It feels good. It's pretty base. I always like when people talk about primitive defense mechanisms and other stuff I don't fully understand because it's all related somehow in my mind and I like how it feels to think about it...it makes me feel superior. Man, progressives do it. Christians do it. All kinds of people do it...it's a kick to feel the superiority high...the trick we play on ourselves. The real trick is to actually let your education kick in and investigate the things ticking in your head, but the world's a trip. All sorts of education falls short because there are things the head can't bear to countenance. The so-called educated should pay heed, because when we think we're really strong we're well set to stumble.
As for me and my house, we'll follow the Lord.
I have said many times on this site that " I'm not prejudice at all. I hate everyone equally, why, I don't even like myself" It's meant to a flippant remark. Working for the public can sometimes do that to you. I have become increasingly less tolerant of people with the liberal disease. Which is a nice way of saying they all make me puke. I slowly see my anger towards them turning into rage then eventual hatred, if they continue to screw up this country.
Dr Joy I love your resume. Could you define "reasonably attractive" for me. It's either I'm smokin hot, and you are to modest to say so , or I'm 30lbs over weight , and you know the rest. The hurt feelings everyone understands.
Imagine how the people who were banned feel.
I'm amazed, after the wilding of Palin, the trashing of Condoleeza, the loathing for Coulter, and all the venom spit at other accomplished women by Progressives, that they have a smidgen of contempt left for you, Dr. Joy. With 65% of precincts reporting, Brown leads 745,000 to 654,000. Your vote did good, Dr.
They hate us because we are all that is blocking them from achieving heaven on earth.