We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
The current left-wing position on death panels would appear to be: "Death Panels are a horrible, wonderful idea and you racist Republicans should be ashamed for claiming they were in the bill, which they should be." Which is actually more coherent than the usual leftist government in favor of government health care, which is "Republicans are racists."
Indeed, I see a serious Ageism problem at work here which has been neglected, even while I acknowledge Maureen Dowd's doubtless accurate view that any debate about any of the O's notions is nothing but covert racism. Man, she is so perceptive.
As I understand it, in Britain, NICE is the government office that determines who may have what treatment, and what is considered "too expensive." Current articles in the British papers point out the devastating effects on citizens.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (Stimulus Bill) expanded the "Agency for Health Care Research and Quality", and a new "Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Clinical Effectiveness Research" was created to compare the merits of various competing medical treatments and strategies and make its recommendations about what medical interventions are effective, cost-effective and appropriate for the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of diseases and other health conditions. (see text pgs. 806-26 of the Stimulus Bill.
Just like NICE, this outfit will decide what treatment you can have, if it is"cost-effective". This is, I believe, what the whole "death panel" was all about. It is NOT in the House Health Care Bill, doesn't need to be. It is already law.
The same people who nearly torpedoed Cass Sunstein's nomination to OIRA Director and who howl like stuck pigs at any Borkian/Scalian notion of cost benefits analysis in a law & economics analysis of a regulation, want to put our health care in the hands of cost-benefits analysts.
Can you imagine if fire & rescue services were governed by these wankers? Or police departments?
"Not worth going into that burning nursing home Bob. The only people in there are old folks."
Very young people will also no doubt lose out under such a system, under some objectivized version of Peter Singer's notion (take a look at who is on one of Obama's major bioethics boards) that the lives of very young people, not being cognizant of much, may have less worth than the life of a chicken.
One of the most heinous and repulsive things about Obama's presidency is that instead of this country of ours with its sad past of slavery and civil rights rejoicing and coming together over 'burying' that past is that we now have a 'human' weapon so powerful it shuts down reasonable discourse. That this schism is caused by malice and stupidity makes it even worse. At least during the civil rights era, one knew where he stood, and he stood with conviction. Now we stand with sheer idiocy at the helm, our captain standing athwart black and white and not bending to the grays of his ignorant minions.
The revolting intellectual racial emollient the MSM wallows in along with half our countrymen is a crime against humanity.