We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
"The people who did this to us are monsters; the people who cheered them have hate-sickened minds. One reason they can cheer is that they know we would never do to them what their heroes did to us, even though we could, a thousand times worse. They know that when we hunt down the monsters, we will try hard not to harm the innocent. Those are the handcuffs we willingly wear, because for all our flaws, we are a decent people."
Obama is saying that if it’s not written into the bill that a public option will lead eventually to a single payer system, then you cannot draw logical conclusions that such would be the case. I totally reject that idea, based not only on the way the system is set up but also because several liberals have made absolutely no bones about the fact that this is exactly what the public option is for. When your opponent admits that your slippery slope argument is true, why would it be a lie?
The same holds true for the few other slippery slope arguments I believe are legitimate. For instance, is it possible for a bill (HR3200) that contains provisions to create 53 new panels, committees, and boards with regulatory or statutory authority over health care in America really, really lead to more “efficient” and “cheaper” health care?
Me too, Meta! I love that 'tea party look' on 14th Street. Just waiting for the Associated Press and the NYT to call it a 'fake display' by paid thugs. The opposition never learns that we're just as smart or smarter than they are. Until it's too late.
Marianne the 'Mobster' who would be there if she could still travel.
Thanks, News Junkie, for that beautiful pic of one of the great Presidents of the 20th century. I miss him more and more.
Contrast today's diplomatic fumbling and pacifying of bullying, bloody Mideastern dictators with Reagan's precisely timed single air strike against Libya and the bloviating Ghaddafi's palaces. One air strike turned Moammar into an on-the-road gypsy, for years, moving his tent every night to a different place. For years! Best of all, it pretty much shut him up. Ah, blessed silence.
Our present administration has all but thrown Israel under the bus -- Israel, the only really civilized country in that benighted area of the world. And if Iran gets 'the bomb,' it will be blown off the face of the earth. We in the West can't afford to lose them, with their innovative brilliance in all of the sciences and their civilized far-seeing understanding of diplomacy and fruitful relationships with the rest of the world.
Will someone wiser and more articulate than I point out that countries can't negotiate anything from weakness?
No one is dumber than the guy who thinks he's smarter than you are.
As much as I loathe this whole health care "debate" and I sure as hell don't want government sticking its nose into health care decisions, the constant din of "best health care in the world" vs. "worst health care in the world" BS is finally starting to get to me. This situation, while not "broke" is definitely screwed up. I attribute it to lack of competition due to, for some stupid (I presume, union-contracts-driven) reason health insurance is tied in to who you work for. And spare me the "I don't have that problem because I work for myself/am independently wealthy/come from superior genes/whatever" arguments, that's not the point. Yes, you can get reasonable insurance on your own, as I did so myself for a few months last year. I was surprised by what was available. OTOH, neither I nor my wife have pre-existing conditions. Along with that major issue is the blood sucking sons of bitches lawyers (none of those here, I take it) who are profiting hand-over-fist from this mess.
There ARE horror stories out there of people who are desperate because they were paying for health care and due to some bureaucratic BS, their bills are not getting paid and/or they can't get "approval" for necessary procedures from the insurance automatons. Been there myself also, though I had the financial means to deal with the situation. Pretending that there aren't problems beyond the tort issue and the miserable choices people make with their disposable income is a disingenuous as the Ozombie's idiot blather.
BTW, what was with Kraut-man's haircut in that Fox News video? He looks like Mr. Spock. Doesn't this guy have a barber?