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Thursday, June 28. 2007
With the collapse of what I call the Bush-Kennedy Immigration Bill, it has been dramatically demonstrated the people of America have spoken loudly enough to be heard.
Every single phone call helped defeat this bill, which had all the power in the world behind it - The Repub leadership, the President, the Dem leadership, business, labor, MSM, newspapers, etc etc. All the power in the world, except for the power of the common sense of the American people.
The message is this, I believe:
We citizens put up with a lot of crap from the arrogant Bozos in Washington (mainly because we are too busy being independent and working hard and running our lives and driving kids around and paying bills and taxes) to speak out all of the time. But, when it seems critical, we speak loud: We are a sovereign nation, and our country is precious to us. Prevent invasion, secure our borders, enforce existing laws - and then let's discuss what legal immigration policies we want and need.
But first, if you agree with our view on the issue, celebrate the death of a terrible idea which would have been a costly disaster. Raise a glass or three of Veuve Clicquot today with us at Maggie's Farm, where we happily employ our legal Mexicans friends, give them advice, help them learn English, and generally help them get established - but we will not employ illegals.
Addendum: A quote from Sen. Bob Corker (R, TN), in today's piece by Kesler:
”Americans feel that they are losing their country ... to a government that has seemed to not have the competence or the ability to carry out the things that it says it will do.''
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i'd put his vote on par with the French and Dutch
rejections of the EU constitution,as extreme as that sounds
We'll have to do it again and again and again. But at least now we know we can win. Amazing.
I do believe this is a major demarcation in the citizenry's relationship to it's elected officials.
For years politicians have said they pay no attention to the polls, while collectively spending billions on polling and focus groups.
For years the average citizen has felt detached, alienated, and rejected from a government that redistributes OUR money on projects that are buried deep within bills having nothing to do with the bill.
Well, I do believe we have crossed a threshold that if pursued can alter those conditions.
1. We have the capability to have OUR public servants instantly upload all bills and changes to those bills to a site for public scurtiny. Programs would no doubt be easily developed to search for key words. Gone would be the days of some multi million dollar grant going to a "performance artist" or an Andreas Serrano to do another "Pixx Christ", or a 25 million dollar upgrade to the Roadside Wild Flower Project in Shangra-La.
2. see 1. and add your own idea.
Now this does present a monumental alteration in the how's, why's, and wherefore's of the formulation of our REPUBLIC. I have mentioned before that the word "democracy" does not appear in either the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution.....what I have outlined and what we are capable of is exactly contra to what the Founding Father's debated and produced for us. They had no intention of setting up a direct democracy, knowing that mankind's immediate judgements are usually not the best ones and that reflection is needed to have good government.
Having said that what we have now is not what was intended either and continues to move further and further from it. This new "power to be heard" and thus influence legislation did precisely what the Founding fathers envisioned...WE forced the "deliberative body" of Congress, the Senate, to do more deliberation on a bill they were thrusting forward at the speed of speech.
We have sounded the tocsin.
I believe this day can be built on to realize a more serious, deliberative body is what the citizens want, were promised, and need resusitated.
I do believe we sent them a message. Fellow citizens we did ourselves proud these last few weeks....bravo to us!
I mentioned in previous posts the Democratic Parties move from using socialist codewords to the term "Progressive".
It is of no small note that Nancy Pelosi, a heartbeat and failed pacemaker away from the Presidency is a card carryinf member of the Democratic Socialists of America*. I am still compiling an more inclusive list but over 70 members of the Democratic Party, including many committee chairmen are members of this organization. Here is an example of their creed and objectives. From their website.
"We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo.
We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships."*
For a real treat visit their website and enjoy a day with Comrade Pelosi.
CAUTION: You won't believe what they're working for, and have in mind for us.
The above site has been listed before. I HIGHLY encourage the readers to visit this site and familarize yourself with it's operation. It is a wealth of information, linking names with organizations they are affiliated with.
Knowledge is Power.
I noticed a preponderence of red in the design of that Dem-Socialist website. Habu, where did you find the names of the Dems that are members of that commie group?
I just used the Discover The Networks site.(above) It takes some work but you can connect the dots.
World Net Daily has also done work ..Divvy Kidd the writer.
Then you call the Hill and ask.
I'm a Canadian living in London UK who needs little pretext to enjoy a chilled flûte of la Veuve's best! Particularly in light of events in the news here today.
Congrats on killing the bill! The US is Canada's neighbour and - despite the carping anti-Americanism of far too many of my addlepated compatriots - we are lucky to have you to our south.
Your proximity is the source of our wealth and prosperity so we have a natural mutual interest in your domestic affairs.
Moving back to Canada in August. Hope to head down to New England in the fall to renew old acquaintances and revisit favourite spots.
All the best!
P.S. Hey Skookumchuk! How's the weather in Cranbrook?
JJM: "P.S. Hey Skookumchuk! How's the weather in Cranbrook?"
Actually, I'm a Yank just north of Seattle, though with relatives in Canuckia. For those who may not know, Skookumchuk or Skookumchuck means something like "powerful water" or "whitewater" in Coast Salish. You guys tend to spell it as I do, while south of the border we spell it either with a "chuck" on the end or use the Canadian spelling. There are things named Skookumchuk or Skookumchuck all over the Pacific Northwest - rivers, lakes, at least one mountain, and a few towns.
Thus the Birch Canoe was builded
In the valley, by the river,
In the bosom of the forest;
And the forest's life was in it,
All its mystery and its magic,
All the lightness of the birch-tree,
All the toughness of the cedar,
All the larch's supple sinews;
And it floated on the river
Like a yellow leaf in Autumn,
Like a yellow water-lily.
(Hiawatha and the powerful water)
Wow. Thanks. Haven't heard that one in a while. I'll have to re-read it.
Nor me, not in a long while--the history behind your net handle is what brought it to mind. Great poem--from 1855, another time of turmoil, much greater even than now maybe.
Hiawatha was an Ojibway, said author Longfellow.
Google say, Ojibway and Chippewa were same, from upper Great Lakes, and that the name means "roasted until puckered-up" and refers to the way they seamed their moccassins (puckered-up seams). pretty funny. makes me sad somehow. i wanna be a wild indian.
I know. I'm now on volume 8 of the Lewis and Clark journals. They're in Idaho, on the way back, looking for a way over the mountains still covered with snow. Lots and lots of Indian stuff.
And needless to say, the Corps of Discovery consisted of some pretty tough hombres. Example. Heading west at the Great Falls of the Missouri (back in Volume 4) they had to portage around. Clark surveyed the route, drove in stakes, then led the men back and forth over the route, which was covered with prickly pear. They made trips all day, hauling their boats and supplies. According to what Lewis wrote for Friday, July 19, 1805: "Capt. C. informed me that he extracted 17 of these briars from his feet this evening after he encamped by the light of the fire."
No wusses need apply.
And I just realized we don't have Longfellow on the bookshelf. I coulda sworn we did. Grandma had a copy, which we got. I know we did. Maybe it is out in the garage or up in the attic in a box. No matter. Too lazy to look. Just bought it at Amazon for fifteen bucks.
Really. And every night they caught up their journals--in detail. I can't even catch up my journal living here in the Land of Convenience, fooey.
Yeah. You expend 7,000 calories walking over mountains, hunt for your dinner, then sit down and write a three page description of the botanical characteristics of chokecherries.
"No matter. Too lazy to look. Just bought it at Amazon for fifteen bucks."
ha.ha.ha. I do the same thing! My library is just outside my office, and rather than stand before its voluminous shelves with my head turned low to the right, I just click me sum keys.
You are too funny, Skook. Made my day... :)
Sum people be so VOLUMINOUS brillyant, AK'ing, and book smart about filosofical tenants and such. They are too funny and make my life, my head turned low to the right scrotum and such ... :)
Hey, HS&AI, check them berries for fermentation before you eat any more--
Hey, BL. No worries. No alcohol-induced writing here. I've no clue as to the excuse for others' Porn 101 comp on other blogs. Perhaps if I had an eidetic memory I'd understand why some 'joked' they were ridden hard by the local Boy Scouts and put up wet (and loved it), or why they tell people they must use butt plugs and such and should pull their (man parts) a bit harder, etc. Political intercourse can be such fun. Republicans, of course, can decry Clinton's Lewdinsky grossness, especially when it became public. But we're special that way and need no fermented grapes to see it all and pay 'lip service' to what we denounce/ crave.
Hey, don't forget the "suck" and on the edge of the seat meme we all enjoyed recently.
Uhhhh...okay, HS%AI, whatever you say. Do you have a point? Wait--scratch that question--
By all means, scratch it. Make it real fast and a done deal. We're like so horny getting to watch it all in not so veiled detail :)
Well, there's always the cold shower. Be sure and wear a bathing suit, welder's gloves, and remember to "think of England'.
Heh, Buddy, that's so hard-hitting. Some of us are gob-smacked.
(I've deleted most of my comment as a wedding gift.)
In an effort to civilize this wide-ranging thread, may I offer my opinion that the Bernard de Voto version of the L and C journals is the best.
I studied L & C under the most wonderful western historian John Sunder at UT. He was a wild West- cowboy-native American ranging gentleman and professorial giant. Will never forget his manner of lecture and discourse, not to mantion his love of subject.
Spam preventer makes it difficult to correct. My guess is that the word should be "mention", unless for a man...
BTW, BD, I had friends who were pretty taken aback by some of the uncivilized threads here recently ("suck" theme etc.) and elsewhere on center-right blogs recently. It's silly to act as if they didn't happen and what they meant. Or, is being a conservative to deny what some do and not others b/c they're our friends?
That question is too deep for me. Suction is a good thing, in general, though. Very useful.
Forgot to correct your wording. We are a Centrist blog - not center-right. We are sometimes right, but not "Right." Who is "Right"?
I was given the Moulton edition as a gift. The de Voto edition might be next.
I mean "correct", and oral sex is to be publicly celebrated! Long live the demure and modest women we claim to respect, I mean, the big mouthed "centrists" who write explicit sexual come-ons and put-downs on political blogs and not Monicas who do it in the Oval Office!
Oh, okay, that's judgmental. They can be Monicas, b/c who is right in the final analysis (and especially if they say they read books and get most of their vocabulary right, I mean, correct)?
After all, we're not Bubba Presidents. We're centrists.
BD, too funny. My gay arch ass-ociate wants to know if a centrist blog like this wouldn't mind another suck- themed thread, but this time between a couple of guys. I certainly don't know what oral sex is, but my friend says suction is a good thing, just like you do! Yay!!
I'm on the edge of my seat thinking, OK not thinking... Oh, my!!
OK. We're thinking mouthing pieties is too clintonian. How bout instead of "suck", which evidently is less private than mainstream fun and goodness to be shared by all, our thread code word can be "yuck"? A centrist blog surely would be open ended enough for a little back end banter :) Think anyone will notice our clever diversion? Yuck, yuck!
Sorry. That's why I wouldn't let my teen and a friend read Maggie's on a couple of occasions, as noted above (or a couple of other political blogs where the commenters get even more explicitly vulgar.)
It wouldn't hurt to remember that BD and crew do this blog in spare time, for no return other than the goodwill & fun, and the offering of a free forum to anyone on the internet.
Since I'm not paying them to accept my complaints, and no one else is either, they're not actually trying to protect profit margins and so are in very little need of a complaint dep't.
So I try to keep my complaints to a minimum. But that's just me.
Constructive crit always welcome.
We can handle it. We welcome it. We are big boys and girls and dogs and orangutans.
You are right - we want no $ from this. We learn from doing, and it forces our lazy brains to think a little bit.
Forgot to mention that Murdoch quietly offered us 2.4 billion for Maggie's Farm. We turned him down: we want to maintain editorial control.
That shows how pure we are!
yep--I heard about that offer. Elvis Murdoch, down at the Mobil station, offered all 2.4 billion old tires stacked up there behind the outhouse.
You know Elvis too? Gol dang. Them ole tires gotta be worth sumptin.
Yer means Germanians, dontcha? Them wallmark red thangs?
I'm beginning to wonder, re family, that is. Mr/Ms Anonymous appears too have a need to piss higher on the post every time they pass by. Have they somehow been offended? A lack of attention perhaps. Some deeply seated issues? Who knows. Maybe it will let us know how it really feels.
Beats me, Luther--I still haven't figured out the offense--or the offending thread. And I read most all of 'em.
Buddy, if someone here wants to append my name to a four or five month old convo with you on this blog recently, then I will bring up convos here, as well. IIRC, people said they were drinking during that suck thread between you and another "can't think as she's being sucked and is on the edge of her seat, pass the booze, heh heh" and so forth person, as well. Whatever. I'm not going to bother googling it, but people I know remember quite well and that's enough. It's not a good idea to bring up names of people who are no longer in the conversation here, who are no longer in the conversation here for a reason.
So my "complaint" is to whomever finds it necessary to dredge up old sore points. You can deny you understand any of this, and no doubt you will try, but just remember I don't like being bandied about. Please leave well enough alone, OK? Leave my name out of your lives. Thanks!
Hi,char--long time no see. I hate to deny it--esp since I still don't know what it is we're talking about.
but I do plead ignorance--whatever it is or was, if I did something hurtful, I didn't mean to, and I'm sorry.
Otherwise--hi, howya doin'?
Those words you quote--not mine. Somebody may have used my name and said them, tho. Does happen--as lame as that may sound, it's true. "Buddy Larsen" even had a revelation and became a socialist over on the "Best of the Web" @ wsj-online. My name, but not me.
Buddy, I'm doing really well on all fronts, and am only here to say that I don't enjoy having my name "C" and "Char" and past personal conversations with you mentioned here by your friend (a week ago, perhaps), since I wuz chased away. The convo could have been referenced without naming me. Of course, I can't stop anyone from doing so, but it's a gesture that's too easily reciprocated here and elsewhere. I'll win another $20 from a friend if someone protests that it was only an innocent inclusion, but I have PLENTY enough $ as it is, so please don't bother :)
Anyway, thanks for the simple consideration and y'all be well and happy. I enjoy most of the threads when I catch them.
Char sounds like anice person, but I have no idea what he is talking about.
What a disgusting show of cowardice on this thread. It ought to be put into formaldehyde and pulled out to demonstrate the wicked nature of some people.
I know who anonymous is. That person will be back. That person has stalked me and a few others. Their intent was to impugn and hurt others for no apparent reason other than a big, black streak of meanness scarring their back that drives them to cowardly insult. I am the subject of some of 'anonymous'' ramblings. Had 'anonymous' not wanted so to be filthy, 'anonymous' would have included context. But that defeats the purpose of slander most every time.
It's a shame any of you worried about this 'anonymous'. What kind of loser sits around with teenagers and reads blogs? There is never a guarantee that a blog will not produce something not 'family oriented'. For 'anonymous' to lay that guilt-trip on MF is reason enough to dismiss 'it' and to underscore 'its' motives as sick and vicious.
I look forward to 'anonymous'' next blithering tirade.
As for CHAR. Lunch is on me. I haven't a clue who you are. I used your name to orient the conversation on a point I wanted to make with Buddy. He had zero to do with it, and your coming back here to threaten and bully me about using your 'name' is kind of a joke in itself. If you were so worried about your name, why did you crawl out of the woodwork to reappear in order bring your name up again considering that's your major gripe.
I'll say this: I read your PUBLIC conversation late one night and thought I'd never 'seen' such a kind man as Buddy. You, 'C', were extremely nice as well. I felt a little as if I were spying, but you chose to write on a public forum. Your choice. Now don't go beating up others for that choice.
I have NO clue as to who you are. I have NO clue about the 'suck' and 'edge-of-seat' business. I've not seen anything of the sort on this blog since I started reading, nor have I seen your name beyond that one time.
So. Char. Enjoy lunch on me with your betting buddy.
"hahaha... Buck Turgidson.
Yeah, pass the bourbon.... thinking while getting sucked off is never good. Oh. Wait. I've got that backwards. I'm a girl. I'm at the edge for the ride. ... Of my life. heh...
Oh nevermind.... pass the bourbon.
#9 Phoenix on 2007-06-11 23:29 (Reply)
Yes, pass her the bourbon...heh heh"
No seat, just edge. Sorry, only skimmed what you wrote just now, because I don’t care. I only have one point: Leave me and your unnecessary ID’g of “C and Char” out of your commentary and your life, please. Show a little grace about someone’s very personal conversations and subsequent dismissal from this blog and from an online friendship on your account. --As if you couldn’t bring up the guy’s ex without explicitly referencing that convo or identifying me from that convo with *two tags*--.
You got what you want, just don’t pick at the carcass, unless you want others to recall certain convos and comments and name the person, just to innocently make people aware of which precisely embarrassing convo one means, etc. I’ve had to move on, so why don’t you enjoy what you won a bit less gratuitously? I don't need the reminders, thank you very much.
You get the last word (ten paragraphs single-spaced if you so desire) because I think there's not a lot of rationality involved here. Just leave me out of your affairs, OK?
“... nor have I seen your name beyond that one time.”
Just read a little of what you wrote. [Major eye roll and they’re stuck- OMG!!]
Thanks for the light-heartedness.