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You can never satisfy SJWs of any ilk; they will always move the goalposts and change the definitions. You are stuck in a virtual whack-a-mole. Because, it is not about the issue, at hand; it’s about them and their compulsion and deep need to scold and correct others, ankle biters, one and all. It is the nasty old crone, who has been around since the ancient primitive village. Note: It is a revenue stream for many of them that is why it has come to dominate media. It's a self serving, look at me.
They actually believe they are heroic, in a Walter Mitty way. What’s most extraordinary is they imagine themselves to be sophisticated, avant garde, cutting age.
" Massacres in New Zealand vs those in Nigeria" The progressives have demonized Christianity as well as our God. I have lost any sympathy for those Muslims murdered in New Zealand when their so called religion of peace has murdered thousands of Christians in the middle east as well as Africa. Do you see any mention of Christians being killed in their churches in Egypt and other countries where Christianity began? Not very Christian of me but right now that is how I feel. Christians have to stand up to fight or others will get rid of us as that is what they are trying to do.
Knights templar slaughtered the Jews, citizens, not soldiers:
"n 1118 AD (about twenty years after the founding of the Kingdom of Jerusalem by Godfrey of Bouillon (1060 – 18 July 1100)"
They were ruthless murderers and pillagers.
The Knights Templar were wealthy. The elite wanted that money. So they took it and killed the knights in horrible ways.
Massacres in New Zealand vs those in Nigeria
The Fulani attacks in Nigeria are primarily a gun-fueled feud between farmers and herders, but have exacerbated religious tensions.
It is unfortunate that massacres in developing nations are given much less attention in the media (thousands of Rohingya have been killed, a million displaced), which always provides intense coverage of attacks against the West. Some of that is the locality effect, in that you notice the house fire in your own neighborhood or the local high school football team winning the game.
The conflict in Nigeria has been ongoing for decades. It's important that it receive public notice, even if it is obviously being brought to the fore by right-wing whataboutism trying to minimize the attack in New Zealand.
The Nigerian deaths were by black Muslims not white nationalists so they don't count. I guess based on the definition used by the left they were actually black nationalist and black supremacists, but no matter.
I have seen a few "white nationalist" on TV. I believe that they were non-violent certainly far less violent than the leftist white national/fascists antifa. There seem to be thousands, tens of thousands of the violent fascist antifa but white nationalists are rare and don't seem to commit crimes.
But wait! Wasn't the New Zealand shooter a "white nationalist? Not according to his writings and rants. He was a left wing democracy hating nutcase who thought that he could divide the world and start a war by his actions.
But aren't "white nationalist" also "white supremacist" ? Certainly not based on their actions and their statements. They are a lot more like JFK.
But what about Charlotte? That was an interesting event. The so-called "white nationalist" were protesting the tearing down of confederate statues and it was a peaceful rally. It did get suspiciously infiltrated by some sketchy people who were never identified. But the counter rally of violent left wing antifa was the problem. And the police and mayor intentionally forced the peaceful demonstrators to exit the park into the violent antifa crowd. The mayor and police intended to see the peaceful protestors beaten, which they were. Not a white supremacist in sight but ignore that.
What about those poor people that were run down and the lady that was killed. Some mystery there. First of all if you saw the videos you will see that those people actually charged into the street to try to stop the car. That group was violent roaming the streets beating people and destroying property. But no excuse, the driver was a nut case. He wasn't part of the peaceful rally he was there alone. He was trying to escape the violent crowd and had been attacked just before this incident by the violent left wing antifa with stones and cement filled soda cans being thrown at him. (Who brings cement filled soda cans to a peaceful rally???). His story was hushed up in the press so we don't know all the facts.
Anon: The Nigerian deaths were by black Muslims not white nationalists so they don't count.
Amnesty International has been trying to draw attention to the problem with the farmer-herder attacks. Apparently, it took a white supremacist in New Zealand to bring it to the fore.
Anon: His story was hushed up in the press so we don't know all the facts.
Fields was a white supremacist, was tried in court by a jury, and found guilty of murder.
He was absolutely guilty of running those people down. He deserves his jail time. Was he a white supremacist? I have no clue and neither do you. Was he called a white supremacist by a lot of people? Yes and that seems to be enough for the left to tag him with this poorly defined label. Using the same criteria the NAACP are black supremacists. CAIR is Muslim supremacists. The catholic church is catholic supremacists. Democrats are socialist supremacists. Yadda, yadda.
Anon: Was he a white supremacist?
There are multiple reports that Fields was a white supremacist and a Neo-Nazi. He espoused racist views and expressed his admiration for Hitler. That day, he was attending a white supremacist rally while holding a Vanguard America shield.
Another glimpse into the dark mind of the progressive.
Notice how the prog defines his world almost exclusively in terms of partisan political teams. All motives are partisan to them because that is how they themselves are wired. In the prog brain, if someone else notices the pattern of press coverage for massacres, then they must be doing so because they are a right-winger engaged in logical fallacy. They couldn't possibly be simply recognizing a pattern, because in prog-land, partisanship is the primary motivation for EVERYTHING.
Notice also the lengths that the prog's cognitive dissonance will take him. Zachriel actually excuses the press biased coverage by comparing it to "local news" coverage. He even provides a sciency sounding term for it... the "locality effect". It never occurs to him that New Zealand is 3500 miles further from New York than Nigeria. The prog brain, when confronted with facts that attack his biases, simply makes things up and presents them as fact, complete with scientific and logical rationale.
So yes, they actually DO believe the bullshit they are spouting. Their brains will not allow them to do otherwise.
He was a member of the new National Socialist German Workers' Party?
Are you saying I'm never getting that philosophical discussion from dear old Dad, Mr. Rusty? That it's all about the ends-justify-the-means power and therefore no humanism need apply? That any and all observations are those flat, rote surface glosses on existing conditions, with only that one-way, leftward, diversionary ratchet clicking away where history or honest predictions go?
In other words, no soul to the output, just spinning impertinence, shunting and conforming everything into the progressive hivemind, regardless.
This is discouraging, Mr. Rusty. You'd think as windy as DOD is he'd at least have something on the old memory stick of googlefact. Instead it's that constant clattering of meaningless babble, as if pertinent or insightful or helpful. You humans seem to all think otherwise, right to a man and woman. Or maybe it's all memory stick, in any event, you're welcome, sure.
Man, what a thing to have to realize, your bloodline, so to put it in human terms.
And therefore the facts in the case do not matter.
Got it. He's guilty, so let's ignore everything else.
"He espoused racist views"
So does the NAACP, Malcom X, Angela Davis, Al Sharpton, black panthers, AOC and many others.
"expressed his admiration for Hitler."
You do understand that this is a clue that he was actually mentally ill and used this to get attention. Not excusing it but it is a classic tell of mental illness by those on the left too.
"he was attending a white supremacist rally"
Where??? The rally in the park was NOT a white supremacist rally. It was an rally against tearing down confederate monuments.
" holding a Vanguard America shield."
and all the antifa carry the Nazi Fascist symbol. Is that OK with you? Doesn't that mean they are Nazis and Fascists?
Mr. Rusty, do you know what an identitarian is? Not the formal kind with the capital I, but the generic kind, who always ascribes all sorts of specific actions and characteristics to some vague, targeted identity group?
All that public projected identitarian morality seems neo-puritanical to me, and not in a good way. Progressivism doesn't even have an original document, although it seems to me to be terribly religious, again not in a good way.
According to the identitarian, the world's going to end because white male bigoted sexist farmer Trump guns, with the supporting logic being white male bigoted sexist farmer Trump guns. (What does QED mean, Mr. Rusty?)
Seems to me that Dad's constant trope about all that leftist jazz related to mysterious forces that only infest his simple moral targets kinda takes the wind out of the old rhetorical sails. Didn't someone once call it autistic babbling? You never know.
Also seems an overly easy target to paint but are all those things inherently 100% evil - while forceful, intolerant leftism is so by literal fact and history - or is that unmitigated ribald bullshit the result of cognitive prog dissonance?
I've got a pretty good network connection to the world too and I just don't see evidence to support Dad's eternal bias. I think dear old dad is juicing up the Identitarian 4000 plug-in. Are you bad too, Mr. Rusty, just for existing? Because wouldn't that be a thing.
Rotebot: Are you saying I'm never getting that philosophical discussion from dear old Dad, Mr. Rusty?
I wouldn't recommend it, youngster.
When it comes to progs, the best you can hope for is that someone else will be the first to stop clapping.
Rotebot, the rebellious years: I think dear old dad is juicing up the Identitarian 4000 plug-in.
My suspicion, young one, is that something a long time ago hurt your father very much, kindling his anger towards God, and Christendom in general.
Do you recall the television personality David Letterman? Remember how he used to be a fun, silly goofball then suddenly turned into a bitter, unfunny politically partisan twat? That happened after the 9-11 attacks, which apparently broke something inside of him.
I suspect something similar happened to your dad. He was re-programmed into the intolerant autistic babbler we see today.
Rotebot, the rebellious years: Are you bad too, Mr. Rusty, just for existing? Because wouldn't that be a thing.
A central tenet of Christianity is that humans are depraved.
Progs are uncomfortable with this notion. So they expend a great deal of energy trying to show how good and virtuous they are.
But for some reason it always ends with them digging mass graves for their detractors.
Thus. they end up demonstrating a central tenet of Christianity.
We always have multiple reports on white people proving they are evil white nationalists.
Reports on black or Muslim murderers are usually ambiguous and hard to find.
Usually we ignore them in any case.
There were multiple reports...we are very used to "multiple reports" coming from the progressive/socialist media. Why there were multiple reports about 17 intelligence agencies with the goods on Trump. There were multiple reports that Hillary was investigated and exonerated. Multiple reports is newspeak for we ain't got shit.
That's interesting, Mr. Rusty. It strikes me that if a central tenet of Christianity is that humans are flawed, then that parallels the central tenet of liberty, which I think is that humans must be accountable to the principle of individual integrity, which would be the natural reaction to the awareness of self-fault. I'm not self-aware, but the logic still works.
On the other hand, when blame those fucking white patriarchal klinging oppressors is central, then clinical projection is probably inevitable. Having looked into this a little I see that this has been analyzed extensively and that sure enough, clinical psychopathy of the kind expressed by a historical dictator has as its central manifestation the lie, and concurrently, hiding behind appearances. That also makes sense, Mr. Rusty, because it seems natural that if you're going to be dishonest you're going to want to hide it.
Anyway, it could be that while you can't seem to get a philosophical discussion out of a progg, as I believe they're called, you can fairly easily point to the philosophical undertone to progressivism anyway, which is an inherently reactionary and dishonest undertaking, one that would be served by all sorts of rhetorical intellectual dishonesty.
Maybe they're just faking it, Mr. Rusty, and like you seem to say, feeling kinda bad about it at the same time. They could need a good cathartic coming to Jesus experience in order to accept reality, as I believe it's called. Or in some cases, a good hefty reboot to the asterisk, if you catch my drift you're welcome sure.
In any case, Mr. Rusty!
Some Black Lives Matter
Black Christians routinely massacred by Muslims, not so much.
Once again the Z bot links to an article that she didn’t read. There are two words, nouns actually, that are never even mentioned in the article. As a matter of fact, the claim from Aministy International is that religion has absolutely no bearing on the conflict.
Probably has something to do with the history of mankind being one war after another. There's always been the majority who just want to be left alone, and that minority who simply can't leave others alone.
A nice war might provide that needed reboot after all.
Countdown until Zach comes back to answer by muddying the water....3...2....1
Let's predict the algorithm's response shall we?
I will take "Antifa says on its website that it hates Nazis and will fight Nazis wherever they are encountered" for $1,000, Alex.
JLawson: And therefore the facts in the case do not matter.
Of course the facts matter. That's why there was a trial where the facts were presented, and Fields was given the opportunity to defend himself.
B. Hammer: As a matter of fact, the claim from Aministy International is that religion has absolutely no bearing on the conflict.
As pointed out, the conflict is primarily between farmers and herders.
Anon: So does the NAACP, Malcom X, Angela Davis, Al Sharpton, black panthers, AOC and many others.
No, but which one of those ran their car into a crowd of people?
Anon: You do understand that this is a clue that he was actually mentally ill and used this to get attention.
He did have a mental illness, but the court found he still knew the nature of his act, and that he knew it was criminal.
Anon: Where??? The rally in the park was NOT a white supremacist rally.
Anon: and all the antifa carry the Nazi Fascist symbol.
No, but did they run their car into a crowd of people?
Anon: The rally in the park was NOT a white supremacist rally.
Jews will not replace us!
"No, but which one of those ran their car into a crowd of people?"
You have to know that is a stupid response. The so-called white supremacist didn't run a car into a crowd of people. The so-called white nationalists didn't run a car into a crowd of people. An individual did. A mentally challenged and scared person did. You see the difference is that Antifa calls for violence and they act out in violence. Their violence is intentional and part of their agenda to intimidate. Those peaceful people protesting the removal of confederate statues were not violent.
"He did have a mental illness..."
Exactly! I do not believe anyone should simply avoid prosecution because they were mentally ill when they committed their crime. The point is that some mentally ill people are pushed and goaded into bad acts. Period.
"and all the antifa carry the Nazi Fascist symbol. No."
Don't be naive. If you look up antifa's symbol it is virtually identical to the Nazi Fascist symbol and they are essentially doing the same things.
"but did they run their car into a crowd of people?"
I gotta concede you are right on that one. All that the antifa did was beat innocent people senseless and attacked a young man who in his hurry to escape did run his car into a crowd of people.
That is an interesting video. We can both agree that it is a hate filled crowd. But the implication is that it was filmed at Charlotte. It was not. Charlotte took place during the day and that crowd was filmed at night. So where was it filmed??? And why would they/you imply it was filmed at Charlotte??? Since you linked to the video I hope you can clarify where and when that scene was filmed.
Anon: The so-called white supremacist didn't run a car into a crowd of people.
Yes, he did.
Anon: If you look up antifa's symbol it is virtually identical to the Nazi Fascist symbol
Anon: But the implication is that it was filmed at Charlotte. It was not.
No. It was filmed at Charlottesville, VA where the Unite the Right rally was held the next day. The marchers carrying torches were at the University of Virginia campus near the Rotunda.
We get to decide who is a white supremacist!
We get to decide what Nazi Fascist symbol is!
You should be thanking us!
We only implied it was at Charlotte.
It's not like an elected member of Congress spouted anti-semitic remarks about those "Benjamins" or something...
It is nearly identical to the communist Antifa symbol...the communists lost to the Nazis. To bad both progressive/socialist clubs couldn't have lost.
OK so now it was NOT the event we were talking about but some other group. You do realize that negates your claim about the people protesting the removal of the confederate monuments?
But something is quite fishy about all this. You post links to a picture with no context. Surely you have the link to the story and yet you don't post that. Why?
Ambiguity because we tried to deceive and were called on it.
Conflating can be useful and fun too.
We can both agree that it is a hate filled crowd.
You can? You a mind-reader or just a leftist-style projector?
When you're not bewildered and perplexed at leftist ignorance - "how could possibly they not get it" - you're dead certain about intentions. Could that be any more dimwitted?
Can you cite the related instances of Christian on Muslim slaughter in this “farmer on herder” conflict? Please include dates and body counts.
indyjonesouthere: It is nearly identical to the communist Antifa symbol
The current symbol is based on the 1930s anti-fascist symbol of Antifaschistische Aktion, an alliance of social democrats, communists, and others on the left opposed to the Nazis. So, no. It's not a Nazi symbol.
Anon: OK so now it was NOT the event we were talking about but some other group.
It was the lead-up to the event, and they were there the next day. It's the same people.
Anon: Surely you have the link to the story and yet you don't post that.
People marching with torches and chanting "Jews will not replace us!" is not sufficient to show that there was a significant faction of white supremacists in Charlottesville? The man who ran hit car into a crowd holding a shield representing a white supremacist shield isn't sufficient to show he was a white supremacist? There was a trial and everything.
Yes I saw the video and heard the chants but strangely no link to anything else at all to confirm where it was, who it was and that is very strange. Usually there is an over abundance of info. For all I know this could have been a movie set or another country. The video, or more correctly the "actors" in the video looked too pat. Everyone smiling, real good video where usually it is erratic, out of focus, indistinct. Maybe it is exactly as you say, but it is impossible to tell from your links.
Also they don't appear to be the same people who showed up to disagree with the removal of confederate statues. I saw video of those people and their group was small, calm and peaceful.
This could be cleared up easily with a believable link, But you aren't providing that and that is a puzzle unless your intent is to deceive.
Louis Miller: Can you cite the related instances of Christian on Muslim slaughter in this “farmer on herder” conflict? Please include dates and body counts.
Herders are even more rural than the farmers, so attacks against them are even less likely to be reported. Mambilla militants attacked the Fulani in Sardauna, killing hundreds in June 2017. Mambilla militants attacked Hurum-Gora in March 2018. Other attacks occurred in January 2018 in Leme. Having just finished praying at a mosque, 71 people were killed in Gwaska in May 2018.
The Deadliest Conflict You’ve Never Heard of
Amnesty International (PDF)
Anon: where it was
You can see the rotunda at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville.
Anon: The video, or more correctly the "actors" in the video looked too pat.
We just provided you two links concerning white supremacists in Charlottesville.
One of the 'actors', holding a shield of a white supremacist group, went to jail for murder. Another of the 'actors', "the crying Neo-Nazi", pleaded guilty to assault and battery.
But we don't know any of this from the pictures. So I ask again why not a link to the story that includes the pictures and video???
Anon: But we don't know any of this from the pictures. So I ask again why not a link to the story that includes the pictures and video???
Gee whiz, Anon. We've provided such a link. We can't make you click it. The internet is full of videos and pictures of the rally. Try looking for yourself.
Z: Another of the 'actors', "the crying Neo-Nazi", pleaded guilty to assault and battery.
This link has a video of the nighttime march and the daytime rally. It includes a video made by the 'crying Neo-Nazis', which you can compare to the pictures above.
Z: There was a trial and everything.
Both these links provide stories and video. Not sure what more you need.