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Again, paranoid right-wing conspiracy theorists turn out to be right.
Assistant Village Idiot
great summary timeline. back in watergate days my buddy and me would say " truth is stranger than fiction" as we watched the hearings on tv onhot summer days.
Little did we know, though we had a good inkling
So as I understand this, the Clinton campaign fed lies to Russian agents and paid someone to feed them back to the FBI in order to inspire surveillance of the other candidate in the presidential race--and it's the Trump campaign that needs to be investigated by the FBI for collusion with the Russians?
Just because Page claims he was not working undercover for the FBI doesn't make it true. On Ingraham's show the other day he did admit he was a 'witness' in an FBI case...one step closer to finding out that, yes, he was an informant and not just a witness.
You can keep trying Zachriel, but you aren't going to win.
Reminder: Nunes specifically said that the memo was about 702 violations, not Trump. The case of Carter Page was just the WORST example b/c it allowed for unmasking of anyone within his circle and beyond. This is about more than ONE case brought to the FISA court.
Sharyl Atkisson was on Tucker Carlson's show last night and very distinctly explained she has heard from more than one source that there have been many FISA court abuses of this nature...targeting the person you CAN target in order to get at the person you really want to get to...the 'incidental collection.
This is identical to what Nunes stated he saw at the WH SCIF last year...unmasked conversations of Trump campaign people & family that had NOTHING to do with Russia.
MissT: Just because Page claims he was not working undercover for the FBI doesn't make it true.
It's evidence against the proposition.
MissT: Nunes specifically said that the memo was about 702 violations, not Trump.
Sure, but the memo includes demonstrable falsehoods, such as that Comey said the dossier was "salacious and unverified" when public records show that he was referring to only part of the dossier and left open that some of the dossier had been verified.
MissT: The case of Carter Page was just the WORST example b/c it allowed for unmasking of anyone within his circle and beyond.
Page was associating with Russian spies. And that's just what we know publicly.
MissT: This is identical to what Nunes stated
And Nunes misrepresented Comey's statements concerning the dossier, and also falsely said Trump never met Papadopoulos, so his statements are hardly definitive.