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Friday, January 26. 2018
Example: “Either Answer Is A Crime. Yes Locks In Obstruction Case. No Is Lying To The FBI.” Maybe. But what about "I just didn't like the guy, and got the feeling that he didn't like me either?"
Thus, even if there is no Russia story to pursue, he can try to pursue Trump and his people on their efforts and wishes to make this entire annoyance go away. Obstruction, and the like, even if there was no wrong-doing at the heart of it. Trump, as a blustery shoot-from-the-hip businessman who likes to fire disloyal people and has no legal background and minimal legal thinking, is raw meat for this sort of thing.
My guess is that Trump is talking to his lawyers like any ordinary citizen: "WTF? I did nothing wrong, and these a-holes are tangling me up in this BS and getting in my way. Just fire these jerks."
I just hope that there are some honorable citizens in DC. Count me skeptical.
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My answer: Mueller is not who you think he is. Trump picked Rosenstein to be 2nd in charge at DOJ. I'm sure that was not a mistake, even though many claim it was. Rosenstein chose Mueller...just ONE day after Trump supposedly 'interviewed' him for the FBI job he literally could not take.
Call me incredibly skeptical that Mueller is a 'bad guy' trying to 'get' Trump.
If Mueller was really doing a 'Russia' investigation, he would have to start with the causes that began the investigation in the first place. Which would get us right to Fusion GPS and the dossier and any other 'evidence' they actually provided to FISA court to listen in on the Trump campaign.
This would automatically results in a parallel investigation that mimics what is going on right now in Congress/Senate committee hearings, as well as the IG at DOJ. If you think Mueller will somehow come to a different conclusion than the IG or the Congress/Senate, I've got a bridge I can sell you.
Additionally, I believe Mueller is reviewing all the unmasking that has been going on. Every time I read "Mueller interviewed Ivanka" or "Mueller interviewed Admiral Rogers" or "Mueller interviewed Hope Hicks," I'm pretty positive it was related to unmasking and violations of 702 laws, such as was discovered by Rogers in April 2016, coincidentally right before Fusion GPS geared up with their dossier crap.
So, no, I don't think Mueller is bad. I think Mueller will come to the same exact conclusions as the IG and the Senate/Congress committees: there was a team of people within the Obama administration, Hillary camp and intelligence community who were actively trying to keep Trump from becoming president and, once he became president, to take him down with FALSE ACCUSATIONS.
End of story.
The scenario is all coming together and it's what we've said all along. Some are getting nervous.
Yes dp, Andrew McCarthy has been magnificent on this issue, hewing closely to facts, not jumping to conclusions, waiting for things to develop, and only then offering an analysis of what might be happening. BTW, the agents who interviewed Flynn, including Peter Strzok, reported that they thought he was being honest with them. The decision to prosecute him was made at a higher level - and there aren't too many higher levels.
"I think Mueller will come to the same exact conclusions as the IG and the Senate/Congress committees"
I would be more willing to believe this if he hadn't chosen Strzok and Page. Everybody had to know their feelings and those of McCabe.
I have a daughter who has been an FBI agent for almost 20 years. She would be a natural Hillary voter but, when she told me in September 2016 that she would not vote for Hillary, I knew something was up in the lower ranks of the FBI.
The ridiculous "either answer is a crime" quote is from a hard left / progressive think tank analyst.
Reminds me of the archetypal lawyer trick of asking "Have you stopped beating your wife, answer yes or no!"
In the first place, if Trump had ordered Mueller to be fired, why is Mueller still working?
And with zero evidence of Trump collusion, but mountains of circumstantial (and possibly direct) evidence of Hillary / DOJ / FBI collusion with Russians, why is Mueller not following those trails?
He is either a bumbling fool or part of the cabal, and I don't think that he is a fool.
I am concerned that Mueller intends to tilt at windmills until at least the 2018 elections, and then, if the Dems somehow control the house, he will go into high gear ginning up fodder for their impeachment bandwagon.
Given the unbelievable amount of corruption and total disregard for our Constitution, the rule of law and the lives of our citizens uncovered in the administrations from G.H.W. Bush, Clinton, G.W. Bush through Obama as well as the media, the government agencies and the corporations also involved in this collusion, citizens are anxious to see this enormous mafia exposed publicly and punished to the greatest extent of the law. Sedition by so many for so long would bring most nations down by now.
And I used to think that LBJ was evil personified. Hah!
Mueller has to bring charges against Trump or Mueller will face
charges and possible jail time for his role in uranium one.
Mueller is at his rubicon.
Either answer is a crime. Yes locks in obstruction case. No is lying to the FBI. That’s a real trap.
Answering yes, that Trump is admitting he ordered Mueller's firing, is not obstruction in and of itself. Obstruction would depend on the reason for the order. However, Trump has also said he was "fighting back", and using the power of the Presidency to do so would be an abuse of power. That he didn't follow through on the order would probably mean no obstruction charge would be brought.
Meanwhile, Trump was caught on tape saying he ordered Comey to be fired because he was thinking of "this Russia thing" by an NBC reporter working under cover disguised as a reporter with cameras disguised as cameras.
"My guess is that Trump is talking to his lawyers like any ordinary citizen." It's you, who is thinking like an ordinary citizen, not the President. You mind has been captured by the media meme, that truly believes that Trump is an ignorant dolt.
I am a few years older than he. One does not survive 7 decades, much less succeed to the Presidency, if one is as "ignorant" as the media believes.
You believe you know better than he, you are seriously mistaken.
We shall see, indeed are seeing.