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Re best brains:
Do you think the Nobel Prize is a credible yardstick for measuring mental power? Really?
Apparently, Prince Charles has permanently crossed over into Never-Neverland. Not even an increase in his meds can help. Camilla, his current wife whose knickers he memorably wanted to inhabit a few years ago, now says their marriage was a sham.
Don't you hate it when heroes turn into villains before your very eyes?
"The Little Bell"
Prince Charles immitates India well.
He lives like a Mughal royal in a variety of palaces and luxury accommodations, while his subjects live in squalor (or he'd like them to).
Jews have made contributions to science, literature and society in general far, far above their representation in society (they are only about 4% of America's population). They have done so primarily in Western European nations or nations whose cultures are part of the Western European heritage -- we fortunate heirs of the blending of Jewish, Christian, Roman and Greek traditions. That broad culture has many influences and has been through many vicissitudes. It has also produced more benefit to humans, materially and spiritually, than any other culture.
The Jewish sub-culture has generally continued to value education and achievement, so they have been enormously influential and successful. There are exceptions, of course -- there's a Jewish criminal organizaion similar to the Mafia and there are Jews who lie, cheat and steal with the best of us.
"JEWS ARE THE BRAINIEST PEOPLE ON EARTH"
If that's true then why do they vote Democrat?
Braininess and Noble prizes along with Jews are over rated.
Haven't met one yet who can out steal lie or cheat.
Last good fer nuthin' cur i kept fell in love with a psychedelic toad in me back yard, about twenty years back.
Dog took rigger while still standing then keeled over stiff.
Me self had no desire to see him revive but figgered he needed the rest.
Truth be told, i still keep a photo of his funny looking face upon a post board in the kitchen.
Leag, is your full name "Jewish Defense League"? If not, they're missing a great PR opportunity.
Meanwhile, back at Odessa File World Headquarters, cleverly disguised as a vermin-infested hovel clinging to an obscure mountainside in the Paraguayan wilderness, under a single naked lightbuld powered by a 92 year-old Ustashi dwarf on a stationery bicycle, furrowed brows dripping sweat hover over a yellowing copy of the New York Times:
Make up yer mind after yall get a firm grip on it, Buddy.
Cain yall or Cain't yall understand me?
Try not to lie, cause yall's efforts to date prove inferior.
No, Leag, I personally cannot understand you. Even when I know what words you intended to type, I find them nearly impossible to form into coherent sentences. When, as a surprise, I find a sentence, I rarely find it to be factual or logical. I have held off on responding to you because, when I've scanned your comments and responses, you have been just as hard to understand and also discourteous.
Mr. Geoff Brown: Leag is the Maggie's Farm troll. Every site has one.
Leag's not a troll, I don't think. Just hard headed cussedness with a tightly scribed view of the world. Imagine a brick wall, and you talking to it. Your mind hears echos of reflection but nothing quite coherent. Head left shaking in puzzlement.
--the WW2 nazis threw ugly all over everything they touched. That's what they meant to do --uglify everything, so it could be killed, with the end result to be the perfect earthly order, an inert lifeless rock spinning in infinite space.
The Catholic Church, its earthly iteration composed of humans who are all and always prone from time to time to tune out the word of God and tolerate the intolerable, tolerated the nazis until it was too late not to.
Indeed, so did the whole world, tolerate the nazis until it was too late not to, and then too late not to destroy them, or die trying.
But the Catholic Church, in the unique duty of a church, is sensitive about the era. It must be laudable, considering the alternative, that many Catholics are sensitive to the issue. Everybody nowadays understands at least the event horizon of the 20th century European sequence, the enveloping nature of developing evil, and very few watchers of the era hold the Roman Catholic Church especially guilty or extraordinarily tainted. And too, the Pope has apologized to the Jews for not having done more as an institution to help defend them against the special attack the nazis made on them.
Probably no words will ever be arranged artfully enough to bend this part of history one way or the other.
It's good to be a defender of the faith, and to celebrate the RC myriad and manifold contribution to the story of mankind. But a defender of the faith must beware this era, and avoid the trap it contains, where defending a line already lost becomes itself the line of attack --the quicksand in which every move to escape it sinks a body deeper.
For example, to defend European Christianity with the idea that European Jewry 'brought it upon itself' --by mismanagement of the politics or a misinterpreted faith, or some other dark chance of fortune or error --is to automatically, ipso-facto, cast the nazis and everyone who understood them and did not try to stop them, as either mere agents of nature, and therefore inhuman, or as god-men --and again therefore inhuman. Either way, inhuman.
Many who look at this see no way out of it, and no way out of falling further into it except by trying to face the truth square on, to learn something from it, to make the mouthful of ashes at least into a remembrance.
Unless what they did IS human --in which case, why not be a nazi? At least you would be free to discard the hundred thousand year mistake, and proceed to eat the babies and elderly during winter famine, without any God telling you no, you can't, because life is sacred.
correction in italics for para #2 above; "...humans who are all and always Catholic or not prone from time to time...."
buddy ... Even at my advanced age, after a lifetime of trying to figure out how it was possible for so many smug ugly people to join together in so relentlessly evil an enterprise as Naziism, I still can't understand them. The only conclusion I can come to is that they totally turned away from God in any form.
After the Second World War, a book was written by Louis Pawels and Jacques Bergier, called The Morning of the Magicians, in which the authors tried to figure out whatinhell happened to turn these folks so quickly and completely away from the course of Western civilization as we know it, what made a whole country full of people decide to condone and encourage such evil. It's a fascinating book, and I recommend it. Still have it in my library as a "cautionary tale." And the parallels with some events today give me the cold chills.
Well Geoff, Buddy does understand but he just ain't good at lying about his not being able to.
Rest assured, once yall learn to read and write proper Queen's English yall may realize no need to reform me sentences, as they are quite coherent as written.
Stick about and yall may be entertained with Buddy's signed curtsy.
Me thinks he can still count that high.
Good luck with yall's studies.
cold chills, me too, MM. Then, they wanted a scapegoat so they made one. Now some of them are back, and they want a scapegoat for their having wanted the scapegoat.
Buddy, laughable but in character, this off topic epistle certifies yall'd have folks believe yall know what Catholics are, what the Word of God is, what everybody understands about an era (belies yall's claim of ignorance in other epistles) and what many see.
Yall ague uninspiredly with yerself but yall's falsehoods don't measure any respectable standard.
Keep trying but also, do try to post topically.
Oh, kudos for assembling such nescient crowd of groupies, Buddy.
Leag, instead of torturing yourself fighting your inferiority complex, why don't you just accept that it's probably not a complex?
That'd free you, you know.
Buddy, fancy yerself Nazi Era Catholic scholar?
Have a go at Summi Pontificatus, lad, then come back in a few years.
Leag, old friend; first of all, re sticking to topic, please notr that this conversation began with your hackles rising over a mention of Spanish Jews getting expelled in the fifteenth century. Knowing your earlier posts as a staunch defender of the Catholic Church, i assumed that your defensiveness sprang from the most recent history that in living memory is still raw and bleeding.
Since then i've been trying to be generous, to make the point that Catholic defensiveness over the issue is self-defeating, and that all European faiths that stood by while the nazis rampaged are just as guilty of throwing in their hand when the religious chips --when the whole point of religious chips --were really, really down.
I could read Opus Dei and the entire body of literature on the subject --but i'm not a scholar and don''t fancy myself one.
I do understand that when one is out hunting, and in climbing over a barbed wire fence one blows one's foot off with one's shotgun, one can later, after the bleeding stops and the stump heals, write a thousand volumes about the weather that day, the optics and parallax of sunlight on wire and moving shadows of clouds against background forest lines, the wickedness of gun safety mechanisms having no klaxon horn alarm danger modes, the psychology of crossing barbed wire, the tables of shot and shotshell ballistics, the possibility of projectile-proof boots and their having been stupidly never developed, and on and on --but in the end what happened was, when one came to a barbed wire fence that one had to cross, one blew one's foot off.
And that going forward, one can pretend one still has two feet, and fall on one's face and ass continually, or one can cope with having one foot, and so live upright at any rate, if perhaps a little sub-optimally for a thousand or so years. It's a choice.
Anyhoo, there were five or six 20th century genocides, and who knows how many that never happened because they were not permitted. We only observe the ones that were permitted.
Well Buddy, it is no surprise yall's assumption is erroneous and I doubt yall read anything of Pope Pius first encyclical.
Topic was Columbus (Roman Catholic born and bred) and I didn't diigress but yall did.
Meself ain't defensive as i am very proud of Christ's Church and His Holiness Pius XII's resistance to Hitler.
The European "faith" that folded before Nazis was the Jew's.
Not Jews shining moment but thank's be to God, Christ's Church worked to save and did save hundreds of thousands.
Good luck with yer studies and thanks fer yall's generous curtsy.
Is that yall's ambition or yall's IQ, Boo?
well, i guess this is as good a place as any to leave the topic. Matters of fact are beyond the forms of this forum. Anyone interested can pursue them.
Not at all --just finished with the conversation. What, you want it to go on forever?
Yall aver finis then ask a question.
Wranglin' illegals may be fit job fer yall, Boo.