Maggie's Farm

Maniac: China is right about Muslims.

So much for freedom of religion.
 

B. Hammer: New York will have containment camps.

To clarify, are you saying the government should have no power of quarantine? That would be contrary to centuries of common law and practice.

B. Hammer: Yes, it would be contrary to centuries of common sense.

“Common sense” since ancient times has been to isolate those sick with contagious diseases. Germ theory meant a better understanding of how diseases are transmitted, allowing for better policies, but quarantining has never gone away.

So, your position is that society is helpless if someone with a contagion wants to walk down a busy city street.

James: To clarify, the power to quarantine is far more likely to be abused by the government than to be used in an appropriate and beneficial way.

Abuse of any government power can certainly occur. The government can tax you or even imprison you. It is not always just. However, in modern democracies, there are checks on government power, including review by the judiciary. Its imperfect.

James: How about you clarify where the constitution gives the government the authority to have mandatory quarantines.

Article I. Most quarantines are handled by the states or local governments under their own statutory authority. Of note, quarantines date to the beginning of the U.S. republic, such as the 1793 yellow fever epidemic.

So, your position is that society is helpless if someone with a contagion wants to walk down a busy city street.

OneGuy: Islam is not a religion.

Of course it's a religion. Islam is an Abrahamic monotheist belief based on the divine revelation of the prophet Muhammad.

OneGuy: It would be no different if you were to declare that communism/socialism/fascism were a religion.

They are secular in nature: Communism as defined by Marx is a political theory, socialism is an economic theory, while fascism is an ideology.

OneGuy: Would you support pedophilia if it disguised itself as a religion?

Laws have supremacy in the secular world over religion. So, human sacrifice or pedophilia can be outlawed, even if it part of a religion.

feeblemind: Looks to me like they are flipping the court the bird and ignoring the ruling.]

No, that's just part of the process. The court has yet to issue a mandate. The state has two weeks to appeal before that happens.

One Guy: Took his punishment like a man.

He did what narcissists do, he denied everything regardless of the facts.

Gringo: Your posting prompted me to find out. He served all of six days.

Of a 150-day sentence, which is on appeal.

OneGuy: Obama wrote the book, so to speak, of how to make a fortune in the publishing business. First you get elected to office.

Obama was a best-selling author years before he became president.