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RFK Jr. denounces Supreme Court ruling striking down affirmative action

Hmmm

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RFK Jr. denounces Supreme Court ruling striking down affirmative action......

I think it's just a shout out to his base. He seems too middle of the road to NOT agree with the ruling.

#1 Tim on 2023-07-03 08:49 (Reply)

I suspect RFK Jr. will reveal a lot of beliefs that are unpopular with the Right in the coming months.

#1.1 feeblemind on 2023-07-03 09:45 (Reply)

If they had called it what it is, "racial discrimination against whites", instead of the misleading "affirmative action" it would be harder to support it. Just like the massive pork spending bill Pelosi and Biden got passed was called the "Inflation reduction act" rather than the free stuff for our voters act. It makes RFK Jr feel good to be FOR affirmative action. You could pass a law mandating the abortion of all black children but if you called it "Women's Health Care and Empowerment Act" the left would vote for it.

#1.2 OneGuy on 2023-07-03 10:31 (Reply)

OneGuy: If they had called it what it is, "racial discrimination against whites", instead of the misleading "affirmative action"

Well, there used to be only affirmative action for whites, such as segregation and legacy admissions. Then there was affirmative action for whites and minorities. Now, it's back to only affirmative action for whites.

#1.2.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-03 11:38 (Reply)

Boo-hoo!

#1.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-07-03 14:12 (Reply)

Zachriel: Astrophysicist, property lawyer, affirmative action expert, search engine, newspeak dictionary.

#1.2.1.2 eeyore on 2023-07-03 15:41 (Reply)

World class whinner. Harvard could take care of the legacy problem so why aren't they? Massachusetts can take care of the Harvard legacy problem so why aren't they? Pretendian Liz Warren could lead the charge in Massachusetts to drop legacy admissions. Why won't she? Money, money, money, money. Prog socialists are choking over their uselessness in addressing a local issue.

#1.2.1.3 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 17:13 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: World class whinner.

World class whiner.

indyjonesouthere: Massachusetts can take care of the Harvard legacy problem so why aren't they?

Alabama could have taken care of their segregation problem, so why didn't they?

#1.2.1.4 Zachriel on 2023-07-03 17:43 (Reply)

You have a state full of socialists that are all whining about the SCOTUS decisions yet will do nothing about legacy which is what you continually whine about. Are you (the bot) a pretend prog/socialist like Liz Warren. This is another reason that neither marxist or socialists can reliably maintain a culture. You eventually piss away the assets while blaming everyone else for your problems.

#1.2.1.4.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 18:15 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: You have a state full of socialists . . .

Systemic racism occurs across the United States. The nature of systemic racism is that people are often unaware of their privilege. If you had attempted to answer the previous question, it might have led to a better understanding. Are you against affirmative action for white people?

#1.2.1.4.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-03 20:29 (Reply)

If you would have attempted to answer questions on why Harvard, Massachusetts, and Massachusetts politicians like Liz Warren (the pretendian) have made absolutely no attempts at legislating anything relevant to legacy admissions, this discussion would be over. Unfortunately, as a do nothing socialist, along with the do-nothing socialists of Massachusetts, you are still sidestepping your duty to address Massachusetts for their problems, whether real or imagined. Don't drag your whiney arguments here and think anyone gives a dam.

As far as your systemic racism and privilege card, take your complaints to James Lindsay. He will confirm you are just another modernized marxist.

#1.2.1.4.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 20:43 (Reply)

indyjpunesouthere: If you would have attempted to answer questions on why Harvard, Massachusetts

We did. It’s for the same reason Alabama didn’t end segregation voluntarily. The political will wasn’t there. Change rarely occurs without significant pressure. A “world class whinner” explains:

QUOTE:

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

So, are you against affirmative action for white people?

#1.2.1.4.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-03 21:10 (Reply)

It is your political will that is lacking. Have you lobbied Harvard? Have you lobbied the Governor and legislatures? Have you lobbied Ms Warren? You simply want to whine. You are just another marxist whining in public and we have no shortage of accusatory marxist everywhere.
Why would I need "affirmative" action in my state? I know of no legacy admissions and if I did I would care less. It is easy to access any education institution in my state.
You are finding out that the old FDR packed courts have disappeared over the years, thanks to Harry Reid, and now the courts are disassembling the FDR/LBJ decisions and leaving a neutral playing ground. So take your marxist ghetto culture accusations elsewhere. You are a third rate bot in the borg world.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 21:36 (Reply)

eeyore: Have you stopped beating your wife?

Your question alludes to whether or not we are engaged in petitio principii or assuming our conclusion. That does not appear correct. It's often a struggle to understand indyjonesouthere's position, but he didn't contest that legacy admissions are a form of systemic racism in that they favor whites and perpetuate the racial disparities of the past. Yet, he still won't even condemn affirmative action for whites even in the abstract. It's not a hard question.

Indyjonesouthere also said that it is not his problem, because it doesn't affect him personally, the same sort of argument used against Dr. King who went from his church in Atlanta to "whine" about injustice in Birmingham, saying, in his Letter From a Birmingham Jail, "You deplore the demonstrations that are presently taking place in Birmingham. But I am sorry that your statement did not express a similar concern for the conditions that brought the demonstrations into being."

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 12:31 (Reply)

You still haven't figured out this is a state issue and not a federal issue. So it is not my issue.
To be frank, even if legacy admissions are discontinued, who is likely to fill these positions? It will be non legacy whites and Asians that fill those posisitions. Your endless marxist whining does not bolster your argument. You simply look adequately foolish.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 13:06 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: You still haven't figured out this is a state issue and not a federal issue.

That's what they told Dr. King, who replied, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny."

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 13:12 (Reply)

And being unable to understand it is a state issue you also pretend it is a race issue. So sad.
You need to go back to the original Marxist theory on class warfare. Legacy admissions are almost entirely from the wealthy class of Bushes, Bidens, etc. with an occasional Hollywood tootsie getting in on the act but it is still MONEY. You are a slow learner about your own marxist history. You still keep trying to go to the modern marxist history 2.0 well covered by James Lindsay. The Boomer marxist prefer marxist history 1.0 by Gramsci and Marcuse. The old timers just prefer marxism the original.
Whinning about legacy admissions is just going back to the original marxism. The wealthy connected are the problem along with the university administrators who, themselves, love some good old original marxism.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 13:55 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: And being unable to understand it is a state issue you also pretend it is a race issue.

Racial discrimination is a federal issue under the Fourteenth Amendment. The Supreme Court, in their myopia, just ruled that affirmative action is unconstitutional, while leaving legacy admissions intact.

indyjonesouthere: You need to go back to the original Marxist theory on class warfare.

Seriously? Marxist analysis? Considering how wrong Marx was on how history would play out, it is surprising you would invoke his theories.

In any case, while legacy admissions have a class component, the data shows that there is also a race component independent of class, and that whites are given advantages over minorities. As OneGuy pointed out, people who have been given advantages will insist they earned their place solely through their own efforts.

Who will think of well-to-do well-connected white people?! It's affirmative action for whites!

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 15:08 (Reply)

You want it to be a racial issue instead of it being a MONEY (class) issue. The courts will have to decide. It will likely become a state court issue if it becomes a marxist class issue. (original marxist theory) The wealthy and the legacy universities have a symbiotic relationship along with hospitals, museums, etc. Good luck getting politicians, judges, and institutions to accept it as a "RACISM" policy.
All of this is nothing more than fallout from the race baiters affirmative action loss at SCOTUS. It never had a Constitutional foundation any more than the abortion issue. Those were old liberal court decisions that were always on borrowed time.

And on marxist theories ... you constantly practice marxism 2.0 with gender bender/colonialism diatribes. Go read Lindsay. You will recognize your thought process.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 15:34 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: You want it to be a racial issue instead of it being a MONEY (class) issue.

The data shows that there is a racial component regardless of economic class. Oh, that's right. You said you "don't really care which side has more or less data."

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 15:47 (Reply)

And the data would show that non-legacy whites and Asians would most likely take the positions that the legacy whites had to give up. The end result is the same. Neither blacks nor hispanics will get those positions unless unless the universities abandon intellectual merit. It would surprise me, not in the least, that they would deviate from merit. Higher education is converged in hiring and in admissions.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 15:56 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: And the data would show that non-legacy whites and Asians would most likely take the positions that the legacy whites had to give up.

The data shows that white representation would decrease, while minority representation would increase, including an increase in Black representation. See Arcidiacono et al., Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard, National Bureau of Economic Research 2019.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 16:16 (Reply)

And they are handicapping the minority students aren't they. There is no chance that minorities would replace rejected Asian students. That is the reason that this case went to the SCOTUS to start with. The admissions department was handicapping student SAT scores in order to get minority representation into Harvard. They didn't care if Asians or whites had better SAT scores they wanted diversity and NOT merit. That has already been rejected by SCOTUS. But, by all means, try, try again. Same result if you use those same numbers.
Now if Harvard manages to piss off the wealthy legacy holders you can see their contributions come to a halt. The Harvard marxists simply don't understand their conundrum any more than you do.
"Don't be fooled by big ol'socialist titties. They're meant to hypnotize, then enslave your ass." Thomas Sowell

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 16:57 (Reply)

Ignoring the data doesn’t make it go away.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 19:04 (Reply)

The data isn't ignored. It's the same converged data they tried to peddle to the courts the first go around. It won't fare any better the second time around.
Handicapping the admissions process to skew the numbers to minorities is a no-no.
Blaming the racist admissions department is the direction to go. They tried a misdirection gambit using handicapp rules in order to deflect from the wealthy using legacy admissions. Now they are irritating the wealthy donors and are left with the minorities that will provide them with nothing but lower achievement and no donations. This will affect mainly eastern and western coast universities. I do not feel their pain. those old marxist farts are choking on their own bullshit.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 21:51 (Reply)

ondyjonesouthere: The data isn't ignored.

The data shows that white representation would decrease, while minority representation would increase. About three quarters of white ALDC (athletes, legacies, dean's list, and children of faculty) admits would have been rejected if they had been treated as white non-ALDCs. See Arcidiacono et al., Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard, National Bureau of Economic Research 2019.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 22:40 (Reply)

And you absolutely ignore the Asian group that was denied admission and had far higher scores than the whites and any of the minorities. That is why Asians started the lawsuit. They are getting denied admission because the the poor scorers behind them that are admitted.
You can throw ALL the white legacies out but if they go by SAT scoring and not race quotas, the minorities will still not get in. The fun part is the legacy parents will quit donating to the Universities. That is ALL upside in my book. The smartest enter and the less smart do not enter.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-04 23:42 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: And you absolutely ignore the Asian group that was denied admission and had far higher scores than the whites and any of the minorities. That is why Asians started the lawsuit.

We can point to the data, but we can’t make you look at it. The study includes data on Asian applicants. Removing preferences for legacy applicants decreases admissions for whites, but increases admissions for Blacks, for Hispanics, and for Asians. (Asians are a minority, by the way.)

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 07:02 (Reply)

But, who will think of the plight of academically unprepared well-to-do well-connected white people?! What will become of them if they have to compete with those people? Donate today to preserve their rightful advantages!

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 07:19 (Reply)

The minority Asians will fill all the legacy positions if indeed it isn't filled by the white non-legacy. Harvard and others will have to divert to a newly formed racist format to keep blacks in the running. That is the same old marxist triangulation from the boomer marxist of the Gramsci/Marcuse era.
As for the legacy whites, they will still have Biden, Bush, Kerry-Heinz, Pelosi grifting family stashes to live on and maintain the lifestyle. But the grifter universities will need new money sources.
Now for the Asian "minorities", they have little desire to be your coddled "minorities". Too many of them are quite familiar with the knockout game and the minority felony games. Affirmative action destroys the level playing field they are looking to play on after hard studying and work. That's why the marxist outreach to the gender bender/colonialist freak show.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-05 08:57 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: The minority Asians will fill all the legacy positions if indeed it isn't filled by the white non-legacy.

You can ignore the data, which shows that ending legacy privilege will increase admissions for Blacks, increase admissions for Hispanics, and increase admissions for Asians. See Arcidiacono et al., Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard, National Bureau of Economic Research 2019.

For generations, legacy admissions have been contrary to a "level playing field."

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 10:43 (Reply)

Here's an Asian point of view. In fact an Asian behind the Scotus decision.

Cnn ost abruptly ends segment when guest whips out the facts about affirmatie actions impact on Asian students.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/cnn-phillip-debates-kenny-xu-affirmative-action

Facts from the horses mouth straight to Scotus.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-05 14:51 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Cnn ost abruptly ends segment when guest whips out the facts about affirmatie actions impact on Asian students.

None of that addresses the racial disparities due to legacy preference in admissions.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 15:11 (Reply)

The Courts just told you that reverse discrimination is illegal. You don't have to like it but there it is. Read the Thomas decision. As for the legacy issue, the courts will decide if that is a race issue or a wealth issue. If they decide it is a race issue then the Asians will absorb all of those vacancies. If its a wealth issue nothing will happen.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-05 15:45 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: As for the legacy issue . . .

That was the topic.

indyjonesouthere: the courts will decide if that is a race issue or a wealth issue.

The data shows that legacies benefit whites regardless of economic status.

indyjonesouthere: the Asians will absorb all of those vacancies.

The data, which you refuse to examine, indicates otherwise. Without legacy preference, Hispanics, Blacks, and Asians will all increase their representation. We know this because Harvard had to release their data as part of the lawsuit.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 17:08 (Reply)

If legacy issues are brought to question should athletic scholarships or admissions be brought to question. They have nothing to do with education and are based on non education performance just as wealth issue is a non academic issue whose only upside is money for the university just as sports are money for the university. It isn't hard to see the courts mandate that neither is connected to academics and therefore neither is legal. There is likelihood that both be accepted or neither be accepted.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-05 19:59 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: If legacy issues are brought to question should athletic scholarships or admissions be brought to question.

If you looked at the data we cited, or even read our comments, you would understand that the study analyzed each component of ALDC (athletes, legacies, dean's list, and children of faulty).

indyjonesouthere: It isn't hard to see the courts mandate that neither is connected to academics and therefore neither is legal.

That's not the legal standard, even in the jaundiced view of the current Court.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 20:53 (Reply)

Ah... Now the affirmative action decision is jaundiced. I didn't say legacy was a legal standard but it could sure become a legal standard if you and Jemele keep whining.

https://www.foxews.com/media/jemele-hill-accuses-asians-carrying-water-supremacy-backing-affirmative-actiondcision

Jemele is trashing around in uncle tom territory. So sad.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-05 21:47 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: I didn't say legacy was a legal standard

You said if something is not “connected to academics”, it would not be legal. However, that is not the legal standard. There are many possible considerations a school can include that may not be directly related to academics. For instance, in the Roberts’ opinion, he indicated that a student’s character can be a valid consideration.

To return to the original point, the Court ended the current policy of affirmative action, but that leaves intact systemic racism (which you have not disputed, and which affirmative action was meant to address), such as legacy admissions.

So, for generations, there was affirmative action for white people. Then, for a while, there was affirmative action for white people and affirmative action for minorities. Now, they’re back to just affirmative action for white people. Progress!

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 22:05 (Reply)

Systemic racism is built into all the government and many non-government institutions to favor blacks. How long will it take to scrub that racism out of the institutions? It will take a long time as many, such as Liz Warren or Michelle Obama got into the institutions as affirmative action enrollees and depend on that institutional racism to move forward.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/07/michelle_ obamas_affirmative_action_adventure_at_princeton.html

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-05 22:58 (Reply)

Ignoring generations and ongoing systemic racism against people of color as evidenced above doesn’t make it go away. Let us know when you are willing to address that evidence.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-06 06:33 (Reply)

Just a side note: most of your links don't work. In your latest link, there is an errant space between michelle_ and obamas. You might try using cut and paste to avoid the problem.

Here's the corrected link:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/07/michelle_obamas_affirmative_action_adventure_at_princeton.html

The article links to a statement by Michelle Obama.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3 Zachriel on 2023-07-06 07:58 (Reply)

No one suffers racism from previous generations, only from their current generation. The current generational institutions have been practicing reverse racism since at least the 1960's which for most, is their entire lives.
Individual racism makes little difference, simply avoid contact with them as Scott Adams pointed out. Joy Reid or Megan Markle are not that hard to avoid. Avoid who you wish. It is the institutional racism that can not be avoided. That has just been dealt with.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-06 10:08 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: No one suffers racism from previous generations, only from their current generation.

That is not correct, as shown in principle in comment #1.2.1.5.1.2.1 above; and in fact, as per Arcidiacono et al., Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard, National Bureau of Economic Research 2019.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-06 11:40 (Reply)

The very fact that institutions practiced racism against whites in order to promote diversity and equity is obvious and institutions now have to divest themselves of that racism. That is a fact as the decision of the Court makes reverse racism illegal.
Legacy admissions will have to be decided along with other university practices such a sports admissions. Both generate value to the university but do they discriminate against the non wealthy or the non athletic. Neither have a direct connection to academics and both recruit students of less than stellar academic ability.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-06 12:25 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: The very fact that institutions practiced racism against whites . . .

Just when we thought you were going to try and respond to the point we raised . . .

We have addressed each and every one of your points, repeatedly. You have only in your most previous comment directly addressed the issue we raised, though it required you to deny the evidence you refuse to consider. Let us know when you are willing to address that evidence.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-06 13:00 (Reply)

You have addressed everything that the Court rejected. Affirmative action is over and done. Any small or piecemeal parts of that will be addressed by courts. It is now law that merit and competence will rule, even in the military.

thecollegefix July 4, 2023 Uproar at feminist conference after scholar wished she was black so professional life was easier.

the comment from the Princeton representative was precious ...she evidently didn't recall Michelle Obamas entry to Princeton.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-06 14:28 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: You have addressed everything that the Court rejected.

The topic was legacy admissions.

indyjonesouthere: It is now law that merit and competence will rule,

Again, we have already addressed that point. That is not the decision of the Court. The Court specifically said academics is not the only valid criterion.

Apparently, you are unable or unwilling to address the topic, much less the evidence.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-06 14:34 (Reply)

Academics is not the only criteria. You can be sure that each and every criteria that is NOT academics is going to get challenged. That includes legacy and athletics. Should personal character count? Get ready for criminal background checks, school attendance records, FBI checks, drug use and drug tests. It will be similar to joining the army. EVERYTHING will be challenged through the courts and a lot of it will be decided on the state level through state financed institutions. Affirmative action is done.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.2.2.2.2.3.2.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-06 15:44 (Reply)

Have you stopped beating your wife?

#1.2.1.4.2.2.2 eeyore on 2023-07-04 11:53 (Reply)

Please see response above.

#1.2.1.4.2.2.2.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 16:42 (Reply)

By the way, minority advocacy groups are suing Harvard University over racial disparities in admissions due to the legacy policy.

#1.2.1.4.2.3 Zachriel on 2023-07-03 21:23 (Reply)

Good. That means they are doing more than you which seems to be limited to whining.

#1.2.1.4.2.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 21:38 (Reply)

Actually, all we did was point out a fact, affirmative action for whites, a type of systemic racism. You didn’t disagree. Once again, we’ll quote a “world class whinner”:

QUOTE:

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny.

#1.2.1.4.2.3.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-03 22:06 (Reply)

You pointed out but like most whiners you did nothing productive. That pretty much describes the universal whiner SOP.

#1.2.1.4.2.3.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 23:04 (Reply)

There is, apparently, a phenomenon where after years of getting an unfair and racist advantage that when it is taken away making the playing field equal that the free loader believes THAT is discrimination and unfair. There is a corresponding phenomenon where a corrupt political party plays into this racism and tries to convince the free loader to vote for their party so they can restore the free stuff. IMHO SCOTUS should have released this ruling today on the 4th of July. The irony is rich.

#1.2.1.5 OneGuy on 2023-07-04 10:57 (Reply)

OneGuy: There is, apparently, a phenomenon where after years of getting an unfair and racist advantage that when it is taken away making the playing field equal that the free loader believes THAT is discrimination and unfair.

Precisely. Whites have had an unfair advantage in admissions for generations, including outright exclusion. Even more than that, the privilege is so entrenched that many whites can't even see it. Legacy admissions perpetuate racial disparities due to past discrimination.

#1.2.1.5.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 11:10 (Reply)

Again Boo-fucking-Hoo!

#1.2.1.5.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-07-04 15:44 (Reply)

Is Legacy admissions based on race?

#1.2.1.5.1.2 OneGuy on 2023-07-04 19:15 (Reply)

OneGuy: Is Legacy admissions based on race?

Legacy admissions are formally neutral, but have the effect of perpetuating past racial disparities, that is, legacy admissions are a type of systemic racism.

Consider a society that, in the past, discriminated in access to higher education, thereby giving whites greater access while denying access to minorities. (It may seem incredible, but it could happen like that, so please suspend your disbelief for a moment.) That means alumni will be primarily or exclusively white.

Now, let's pretend that all forms of racism just magically disappeared. There's not a bigot in sight. (You might have to work a bit at suspending your disbelief.) Legacy admissions are a formally race-neutral policy, but the children of white alumni will also generally be white. Consequently, the result of legacy admissions is to perpetuate the racial disparities that were the result of the previous discriminatory policies. The really odd thing is that white people won't even notice the problem!

Of course, if there is lingering racism, or self-serving justifications by those with privilege, that just exacerbates the problem.

#1.2.1.5.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2023-07-04 20:43 (Reply)

So, is basketball racist?

#1.2.1.5.1.2.1.1 OneGuy on 2023-07-05 10:36 (Reply)

OneGuy: So, is basketball racist?

We note you igored our response to your previous question, which is not based simply on disparate outcomes, but disparate treatment due to the legacy of historical racism.

#1.2.1.5.1.2.1.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 10:45 (Reply)

Ignored? No! I knew you would go to disparate results as proof of racial discrimination and now explain basketball.

#1.2.1.5.1.2.1.2.1 OneGuy on 2023-07-05 15:26 (Reply)

OneGuy: I knew you would go to disparate results as proof of racial discrimination

No. We pointed to disparate treatment.

#1.2.1.5.1.2.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2023-07-05 15:43 (Reply)

Presidential candidates would be well advised to start promoting Charter Schools and vouchers. Right now, nobody likes the teacher's unions.

RFKJr has liberal views on most things. Regardless of this, his presence as a candidate improves the level of the campaigning and lifts the quality of the topics being discussed - and provides a very stark contrast with Biden for all to see.

Regarding the Wagner 'coup', I thought from Day 1 that Putin was taking an opportunity to identify his senior military leaders that might be suffering from wavering loyalties. He's a survivor and a ruthless tactician, the type that would secretly monitor conversations and stray sentiments, and take careful notes.

#2 Aggie on 2023-07-03 09:05 (Reply)

Under no circumstances are you to refer to the mostly peaceful French protesters as Muslim migrant rioters or much worse, as invaders. Even though they hate France and everything she stands for except for the welfare payments and are intent on rolling back the Reconquista, you aren't allowed to say it.

#3 Jerryskids on 2023-07-03 09:42 (Reply)

Wow even I wouldn't buy that for a dollar is saying it was a chess move by Putin.
(S)elect a clown and expect a circus.
Billy Gates, who has no degree in climate science, medicine or virology, is behind the dimming of the sun horse hockey road apples.
When you have a compromised preezy of the steezy all kinds of Indian Ocean high speed rail projects get some air time.
Vibrant diverse pets burning down the property of apparatchiks just might bring about some reality regarding the magic soil replacement mania.
It's always a blank stare then ignore when you ask why is diversity our strength.
When Harvard, Yale and all the other Marxist EDU Long March hiveborgs get their wish of burning it all down will they regret it?
Rhetorical is fun!

#4 Omni Consumer Products on 2023-07-03 10:09 (Reply)

re The Wagner 'Coup' Was Staged by Putin—and the West Fell for It | Opinion

I find this highly unlikely.

What dictator would point a weapon of this magnitude at himself as a ruse? I can't think of a one throughout history that would have done it and I don't believe Putin is an exception.

I find the scuttlebutt that Putin got a hold of Prigozhin's family and threatened to kill them if he didn't stop far more likely.

I guess we'll see soon enough. If Prigozhin dies suddenly in the next year or so I think it will be evidence that the march on Moscow was no Ruse.

#5 feeblemind on 2023-07-03 10:09 (Reply)

Given the Russians' track record, I find that idea a heck of a lot more plausible than the false flag theory. They did that in the ME and the A-Rabs quickly learned it was a bad idea to abduct Russians for ransom. But do we know that Prigozhin has a family?

For marriage though, it doesn't matter how ugly or psychopathic you are, as long as you have money.

#5.1 Hairless Joe on 2023-07-03 17:05 (Reply)

I think the Russian people actually like both Putin and Prigozhin. No point to stir that pot and it appears that Poland/Nato may try to advance through the part of Ukraine/Russia border that Prigozhin was exiled to along with some of his troops.

#5.2 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 17:20 (Reply)

re Musk's Tweet-Limiting Move Is To Prevent The Completion Of The "AI-Censorship-Death-Star"

Here is the Rumble link on that.

It is 8:52 long.

It held my attention the entire time.

https://rumble.com/v2xmi9w-cyber-expert-mike-benz-explains-how-elon-musk-just-blew-up-the-social-media.html

#6 feeblemind on 2023-07-03 10:15 (Reply)

France is falling, England may be next.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/07/02/france-burns-while-media-demand-we-pretend-not-to-see-the-origin-of-the-crisis/

#7 OneGuy on 2023-07-03 10:43 (Reply)

"Fuck the suburbs."

#7.1 JustMe on 2023-07-03 11:02 (Reply)

"Fuck the white people."

#7.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-07-03 14:15 (Reply)

Sink the ships.

#7.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-07-03 17:23 (Reply)

It is being reported on some venues that disease is now rampant in Central America because of the influx and passage through these countries by immigrants from 3rd world countries. The problem is that all the immigrants, sick or healthy, drink from the same water sources and eat from the same food sources and are subject to the same parasites and mesquites. What happens as a result of this chaos is that more and more immigrants show up at our border and are transported to cities all around our country who have these 3rd world diseases. The government knows this and the only action they have taken is to censor this so Americans are left in the dark. They know this! and the only action they have taken is to make sure YOU don't know this!

#8 Anon on 2023-07-03 11:29 (Reply)

I hear you, but since when were Central American countries not "Third-World", at least in terms of their standard of living?

BTW I think that malaria is spread by "mosquitos", which cannot survive a mesquite grill.

#8.1 Hairless Joe on 2023-07-03 17:10 (Reply)

Thanks for the article about drone lights, your are right, what's the point then. Suppose sparklers will be banned next and whoosh your phone around with pretty lights?

Happy 4th of July.

#9 Grant1863 on 2023-07-03 11:35 (Reply)

EV's gas tax. In California, they now tax EVs/
But, my Tesla keeps the air cleaner than gas cars. Safer for our children. Encourage buying EV;s to keep air cleaner.

#10 ns on 2023-07-03 12:17 (Reply)

"...my Tesla keeps the air cleaner [b]near me[\b] than gas cars..." FIFY, you're welcome!

Now in China and Africa where they mine and process the raw materials for those batteries and motors, that's a different story, but who the hell cares about them? Heck, they might as well be on a different planet (one that is not worth saving, for instance) for all the thought you give them.

#10.1 Hairless Joe on 2023-07-03 17:15 (Reply)

NASA kills its electric plane’s flight plan, citing safety concerns

The decision not to fly the experimental X-57 came about because the agency discovered that the propulsion system had the potential to fail and put people at risk.

QUOTE:

The X-57 program will wind down without the aircraft ever going up into the sky.

The agency had previously hoped to fly the aircraft, which would be powered by batteries and electric motors, sometime this year.

https://www.popsci.com/technology/nasa-cancels-x-57-flight/

#11 feeblemind on 2023-07-03 12:52 (Reply)

re Bill Gates wants to spray millions of tonnes of CHALK into the stratosphere to reflect sunlight and slow global warming

As I have said before, plants can do well in temps much hotter than we normally experience as long as they have water.

If it gets much cooler, they won't do as well and may not grow at all.

Gates' plan runs the risk of creating a global famine. Perhaps he is good with that, but the starving billions won't agree.

Furthermore where is the power going to come from to heat homes in those colder winters?

#12 feeblemind on 2023-07-03 13:30 (Reply)

Bill Gates may have some kind of twisted leftist agenda, but I personally think he's just bugnutz crazy.

#13 RebeccaH on 2023-07-03 13:49 (Reply)

Perhaps the reality is that he is no better educated than most anyone else when it comes to areas outside his own expertise?

The difference being that unlike most people, he has the means to advance his pet notions and crank theories.

#13.1 JJM on 2023-07-03 16:52 (Reply)

A tech guy put some understanding into Twitters new rules to limit reading tweets. The real issue is that some governments, ours and foreign governments, are essentially downloading everything on twitter. The objective is to identify their citizens who are saying things they don't allow them to say. And also to create a database of everything said on twitter to use as a resource that they cannot legally or legitimately get themselves. The problem for twitter is that when someone outside of Twitter does this it ties up the Twitter computer systems and costs Twitter money. The purpose of these rules is to stop bots and illegal uses of the system not to limit legitimate use.

#14 OneGuy on 2023-07-03 17:23 (Reply)

re Defiant Harvard vows to continue to use race in admissions decisions

Does anybody know what Harvard considers to be the ideal racial, sex, and nationality mix for students at their school?

Would an ideal administrative and professor mix mirror the ideal student mix?

#15 feeblemind on 2023-07-04 09:53 (Reply)

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