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Saturday, June 24. 2023

Does anybody believe...

...any news from Ukraine or Russia?  Hinderaker, who I like and respect, believes this BS. 


There are no good guys in all of this, including NATO and the US along with Ukraine and Russia. Just my view. Furthermore, NATO is obsolete but it's fun for them to find a Kabuki role. Oh, also, where's the UN? Worrying about the weather, I guess. Mission creep - they do nothing.


Sunday follow-up  - Probably nothing was what it seemed







Posted by Bird Dog in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 14:48 | Comments (16) | Trackbacks (0)

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What bs would that be?
#1 willful knowledge on 2023-06-24 15:24 (Reply)
Fake news from all...
#1.1 Bird Dog on 2023-06-24 15:31 (Reply)
Fog of War.
#1.1.1 feeblemind on 2023-06-24 15:48 (Reply)
No. Fog of politics.
#1.1.1.1 BD on 2023-06-24 17:05 (Reply)
What a shambles.

A “superpower” that cannot even control its own hired henchmen. The fact that there even is such a thing as the Wagner Group roaming around armed for bear demonstrates what a mess Russia is in.

Failing seems to be about the only thing the Russians do well these days.
#2 JJM on 2023-06-24 15:27 (Reply)
Theories of Prighozhin getting bribed from Pentagram "accounting errors" and that the RF forces attacked his musicians.
General Armageddon Surovikin made a video with a suppressed weapon on his lap ordering him to stand down.
Russia recruits around 10,000 a month and mercs are only in it for the money.
The US and NATO trained and supplied 47th brigade is nowhere near the first line of defense and one third of the armor is destroyed.
#3 Sun von Rommel on 2023-06-24 15:58 (Reply)
Thanks for that, Novosti.

Unfortunately you Russians lied your way into your present debacle in Ukraine, so we have to assume you're still being economical with the truth now.
#3.1 JJM on 2023-06-24 16:37 (Reply)
"There are no good guys in all of this"

IMHO 90% of Ukrainians are just common everyday people trying to live their life. If there are any good guys they are the good guys. Their government is corrupt but look at ours. Their history is mixed and shady but how should some 20 or 30 something Ukrainian be blamed for that any more than someone alive today in the U.S. be blamed for slavery. I don't agree with a lot of what is going on and I especially disagree with transferring vast amounts of taxpayers wealth to Ukraine, but I do think Ukrainians should fight for their country and their lives and I hope they find some measure of success.
#4 OneGuy on 2023-06-24 16:30 (Reply)
Claiming there are no good guys in the war, of course, means that you are a paid propagandist for Putin. Putin is the third or fourth most evil man in the world (depending on where RFK, Jr. ranks) and St. Zelinskyy (pbuh) is an angel sent from Heaven to lead the Ukrainians to the Promised Land of milk and honey and flying unicorns crapping gold nickels.
#5 Jerryskids on 2023-06-24 17:20 (Reply)
NATO’s the corpse were tied to; nothing but a cartel designed to ensure America does alll the heavy-lifting. The UN’s nothing but a jobs and welfare program heavily-financed by America.

Hmmm, a pattern seems to be emerging.
#6 Hoss on 2023-06-24 17:27 (Reply)
Nato will go away. It no longer has a function other than spending money to promote thugocracies favorable to the US. Blackwater was a problem until it was relegated to training missions. But we still have our IC contractors that have had illegal access to government intelligence and were up to their neck in the Russia hoax.
Prigozhin will likely survive as he seemed to be a friend of Putin but his Wagner career is gone. He has been vocal for some time. Even MacGregor has pointed it out as he likely had some enemies in the military and perhaps political hopes. That is gone.
#6.1 indyjonesouthere on 2023-06-24 23:20 (Reply)
He’s smart enough to know all about Gell-Mann and still believes every word he reads in the same press that repeated every Russian Conspiracy lie about Trump and every single unbelievable word about COVID and 100% of the BS the CDC put out about COVID, Vaccines, breath masks, social distancing, ad nauseum. I think it was all dreamed up by the Russian POLMIL staff to fake Ukraine out and into throwing more of their army down the drain in the foolish belief that the Russians are on the ropes.
As usual with all the above dummies, it worked and those idiots srsly believe Ukraine can defeat the Red Army. Don’t they read any history?
#7 Curtis on 2023-06-24 23:09 (Reply)
Thanks for that, TASS.

But again, you Russians lied your way into your present debacle in Ukraine, so we have to assume you're still being economical with the truth now.
#7.1 JJM on 2023-06-25 14:53 (Reply)
Never Get Involved in a Land War in Asia - The Princess Bride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mTlnrXFAXE
#8 Dr. Jay on 2023-06-25 07:49 (Reply)
wrt TASS, its funny you should mention that.

I'm curious to know what you know and how you know it.

What exactly did Russia lie about?

Who has a vibrant economy, strong central government and enjoys the will of the people?

Who exactly is paying double and triple previous $ for energy and gasoline?

What did Putin lie about anywhere? I'm serious here. What lies has he made on par with anything at all out of the AMA, CDC, lying Joe Biden's mouth, White House Mop, National Security Advisor, any of the countless lies told by Brennan and all the other intel community that lied about the Biden laptop.

Just curious because it's really obvious that some people really never do learn anything and are as gullible as the day is long.
#9 Curtis on 2023-06-25 15:17 (Reply)
I'm skeptical of everything I hear out of Ukraine. Especially from the USA.
#10 itsatax on 2023-06-27 20:23 (Reply)

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