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Saturday, December 18. 2021

Saturday morning links

Why jeans have that tiny pocket 


From Reading Franklin:



  Long before he was a Founding Father, Ben Franklin was one of the most successful “influencers” (as we’d say now) in the American colonies. His Poor Richard’s Almanack was a multi-decade bestseller. In 1758 he summarized a quarter-century of Poor Dick’s wisdom in The Way to Wealth—a book that gave birth to the “self-help” genre and that remains in print today.



Frat house cannot hang its own Christmas wreath, university insists


Harvard Won't Require SAT Or ACT For 5 More Years


The Strange Career of Paul Krugman


The ACLU's Push To 'Cancel' Student Debt Shows How Far It Has Strayed From Defending Civil Liberties


Noble lies are a public health hazard


 The New York Times still hasn’t apologized for its Russia Hoax coverage


Bay Area:  6 Black Men Were Responsible for 70 Attacks on Asian Women


 San Francisco Mayor Declares ‘State of Emergency’ in Tenderloin District


 On the BLM Crimewave: Has any movement been so throughly discredited more quickly by reality than “Black Lives Matter”?


 December Sees Antifa Thugs (Finally) Going to Prison!


The Washington Post is looking for a hitman 

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The left is moving towards using the covid vaccination and booster is a weapon against MAGA. The belief is that most of the anti-covid vaxxers are Trump supporting right wing people. The covid "crisis" is perfect for weaponizing against the deplorables. They will follow Australia's lead and more on this to destroy the enemies of their socialist revolution. They will deny them work, deny them health care and deny them their civil rights. They are even working on denying them their voting rights. We will see more and more cases where a half dozen police wrestle some woman or man to the ground and a judge put them in jail or fine them for not wearing the mask or getting the shot. Get ready, the Democrats have a plan for you and it will more and more begin to look like Germany in the 30's.
#1 Anon on 2021-12-18 10:07 (Reply)
Look how well that eventually worked out for the Germans.
#1.1 RebeccaH on 2021-12-18 11:25 (Reply)
It took a world war to get them to stop.
#1.1.1 snopercod on 2021-12-18 17:39 (Reply)
A significant minority of anti-vaxxers are on the left and hate Trump. Over one-third. I think there are some strategists for the Democrats who are trying to play this as you say. But I don't think they hold the upper hand. Beyond my problem with this as a horrible divisive strategy, I also don't think it will work that well for them. A little in the short run.

Suspicion of government is very right-wing, only somewhat on the left, and that the far left. But making decisions because of what is "natural" and what "feels right" is ultimately much more left-wing than right. On the right, it is historically only survivalists and fringe fundamentalist Christians. It won't last. There are people who will never relent regardless of facts, as we see here at MF, but their children know they are nuts and won't go there.
#1.2 Assistant Village Idiot on 2021-12-18 15:28 (Reply)
There really are "anti-vaxxers". This is true. But I don't think you are properly representing or understanding what is going on with the covid vaccine. For most who oppose it they are not "anti-vaxxers". They have been following the science AND taking note of the incredible crushing censoring of doctors, scientists and facts relating to the covid vaccine. Joseph Gobbels would be so proud of our government today. Why the propaganda and censorship??? If the vaccine ISN'T killing people by the thousands WHY hide the data??? Why stop any questions or desire for more information? I am far more concerned by our governments tyrannical response to covid than I am with the actual disease.

I don't know if there is a actual or correct name for the folks who are opposing this government over reach but I do know that name is NOT "anti-vaxxers". But whatever you choose to call them they have a point and we would all be better off if we stood together and forced our government to address these issues.
#1.2.1 JustMe on 2021-12-19 11:38 (Reply)
JustMe: WHY hide the data???

The data isn't hidden.
#1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-19 11:53 (Reply)
Oh good. So how many people died from the covid shot worldwide and in the U.S.? Where can I get all of the data related to the development of the vaccine? (Rumor has it that this won't be available for 50 years.)

Not the propaganda on this but the truth. Where is it?
#1.2.1.1.1 JustMe on 2021-12-19 14:54 (Reply)
JustMe: So how many people died from the covid shot worldwide and in the U.S.?

Here's a rundown of adverse events in the U.S.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

JustMe: Where can I get all of the data related to the development of the vaccine?

See Polack et al., Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine, New England Journal of Medicine, December 2020.

Here's the FDA's Emergency Use Authorization, including the evaluation of safety.
https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download
#1.2.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-19 15:31 (Reply)
So I followed your link and the VAERS system shows 184,000 deaths from the covid vaccine.

The other link to the covid vaccine data gives no actual data.
#1.2.1.1.1.1.1 JustMe on 2021-12-19 17:58 (Reply)
JustMe: So I followed your link and the VAERS system shows 184,000 deaths from the covid vaccine.

VAERS is showing about 20,000 reported deaths following vaccination, but most have not been shown to have a causal relationship to the vaccine. You can get the raw VAERS data here:
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
#1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-20 08:41 (Reply)
Yeah! I lied about the 184,000 deaths to see if you would take the bait and give YOUR approved death rate. But seriously 20,000 deaths seem like a lot doesn't it? Especially considering that they are covering up a lot of the negative consequences of the vaccine and that number could be quite a lot higher.
#1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 JustMe on 2021-12-20 10:16 (Reply)
JustMe: I lied

Alrighty.

JustMe: But seriously 20,000 deaths seem like a lot doesn't it?

Except that most are probably not due to COVID vaccination. We expect a certain number of people to die within any 30 day period, especially among the elderly. Reports of people dying in the aftermath of COVID vaccination may not imply causation. Any connection has to be investigated, and the VAERS data is available to researchers to do just that. There are about 10,000 deaths that may have a connection to vaccination, a rate of about 0.002%. On the other hand, vaccination has prevented hundreds of thousands of additional deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
#1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-20 10:34 (Reply)
That was fast https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/18/new-york-state-assembly-advancing-legislation-to-create-involuntary-covid-quarantine-camps/ New York State Assembly Advancing Legislation to Create Involuntary COVID Quarantine Camps
#1.3 Anon on 2021-12-18 22:53 (Reply)
Re "The New York Times..."

They still haven't apologized for being stooges for Stalin during the Great Terror of the '30s(claiming among other things that there were no show trials, gulags, or political murders), nor have they returned the Pulitzer Prize Walter Duranty won at the time for his mendacious advocacy of the Marxist tyrant.

The New York Times doesn't do "apologies". That might impact their posture as the "Newspaper of Record" by jogging peoples' memories.
#2 Hairless Joe on 2021-12-18 10:24 (Reply)
My thoughts exactly. When I saw the headline "The New York Times still hasn’t apologized for its Russia Hoax coverage" I had to wonder "Which one?" It should be pretty obvious by now they're not planning on giving back Duranty's Pulitzer.
#2.1 Jerryskids on 2021-12-18 13:57 (Reply)
Hairless Joe: nor have they returned the Pulitzer Prize Walter Duranty

The New York Times does not possess the prize, but have reported extensively on the failures of Duranty's reporting.
https://www.nytco.com/company/prizes-awards/new-york-times-statement-about-1932-pulitzer-prize-awarded-to-walter-duranty/

As for the Russia reporting, the prize is not awarded for an author's body of work or for the author's character, but for specific pieces entered into competition. These are the articles that were cited for the 2018 award:
https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/staffs-new-york-times-and-washington-post
#2.2 Zachriel on 2021-12-18 14:41 (Reply)
Well thanks for straightening me out there, Zach. That changes everything.
#2.2.1 Hairless Joe on 2021-12-19 08:55 (Reply)
Hairless Joe: Well thanks for straightening me out there

You're welcome. It's obvious they can't return a prize they do no have.
#2.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-19 09:03 (Reply)
And they haven't apologized for being Stalin's stooge, either. And the do own that.
#2.2.1.1.1 Hairless Joe on 2021-12-20 09:15 (Reply)
Hairless Joe: And they haven't apologized for being Stalin's stooge, either. And the do own that.

The New York Times has reported on and discredited Duranty's coverage of the Soviet Union and has publicly acknowledged his failures.
https://www.nytco.com/company/prizes-awards/new-york-times-statement-about-1932-pulitzer-prize-awarded-to-walter-duranty/
#2.2.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-20 10:08 (Reply)
re Bay Area: 6 Black Men Were Responsible for 70 Attacks on Asian Women

One wonders if the DA will bother to prosecute them or if a judge would give them more than probation and community service if convicted?

The Left must be very disappointed they weren't white supremacists, but I doubt these arrests move the needle on The Narrative that it is only white people that hate.
#3 feeblemind on 2021-12-18 10:28 (Reply)
re December Sees Antifa Thugs (Finally) Going to Prison!

The author cites maybe 5 or 6 getting convicted out of the thousands that took part in the riots and I am supposed to be impressed?
#4 feeblemind on 2021-12-18 10:33 (Reply)
feeblemind: The author cites maybe 5 or 6 getting convicted out of the thousands that took part in the riots and I am supposed to be impressed?

As of August 2021 (four months ago):

QUOTE:
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.

https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
#4.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-18 11:22 (Reply)
Misleading there again KiddieZ because that’s what y'all do.
#4.1.1 Zachinoff on 2021-12-18 12:36 (Reply)
Ad hominem. Again. Come with something better.
#4.1.1.1 Assistant Village Idiot on 2021-12-18 15:30 (Reply)
Okay. You're a belligerent ass too.
#4.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2021-12-18 18:07 (Reply)
Right now covid is a pandemic of the vaccinated. Most people hospitalized with covid are fully vaccinated. Most covid deaths are to fully vaccinated people. Yes the unvaccinated are in hospitals and dying from covid too but the majority of the deaths today are to vaccinated people. AND if you are fully vaccinated and have covid you are just as communicable as some who is unvaccinated.

Yet, the government insists that if we were to all get fully vaccinated that we could defeat covid. Seriously are they that stupid. While you may be able to argue that having been vaccinated is somewhat better than not having been vaccinated there is simply no longer any truth to the theory that the vaccine will prevent covid. Right now if 100% of the worlds population were vaccinated we would still have the pandemic, still have people in ICU with covid and still have high death rates. THAT is a fact. The vaccine seems to have between 0% to 30% effectiveness.

There is also overwhelming evidence that masks, six feet of social distancing and shutdowns do nothing to prevent the spread of covid. Study after study has proved this as have the disparate use of these tactics by different states and comparison of their results.

Almost everything that Fauci has said over the last 22 months of his reign of terror has been wrong. It is obvious to everyone now that he was winging it AND that he was politicizing it to benefit the communist left. The government however continues to use the pandemic to seize power and to destroy the middle class. They intend to change the "normal" forever and destroy the constitution. Never let a crisis go to waste.
#5 OneGuy on 2021-12-18 11:09 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Right now covid is a pandemic of the vaccinated. Most people hospitalized with covid are fully vaccinated. Most covid deaths are to fully vaccinated people.

Citation, please.

QUOTE:
There is also overwhelming evidence that masks, six feet of social distancing and shutdowns do nothing to prevent the spread of covid. Study after study has proved

Citation, please.
#5.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-18 11:25 (Reply)
Citation your ass, you are uneducable
#5.1.1 OneGuy on 2021-12-18 12:15 (Reply)
OneGuy: you are uneducable

In other words, you got nothing.
#5.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-12-18 12:30 (Reply)
Believe he means you're just a belligerent ass.
#5.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2021-12-18 12:40 (Reply)
This is just insane and means only that you don't understand statistics or don't care to. You have been corrected with data and reason numerous times and have not answered the objections, only kept repeating your assertions.

You are the reason that the crazies on the left think there should be censorship, not because you are declaring truths they dare not hear (as you likely think), but because you are so far from reality they think it should not be out there to mislead the unwary. They are wrong, but I get it.

Would you please seek out a person you know personally who is trained in any of the relevant fields - statistics, medicine, biology - and just innocently interview them? Not just websites you learned about from other websites that tell you what you want to hear. Do you know anyone who works in an ER or an ICU? Anyone whose job it is to sort through research and figure out what is meaningful? Go to them.

If you don't know any, then you should not be pretending you know anything. I am sorry to keep kicking you after you acknowledged your struggle with depression, but THIS IS PART OF IT. This is why you are isolated. You won't listen.
#5.2 Assistant Village Idiot on 2021-12-18 15:40 (Reply)
WOW! You really didn't like those facts did you? Had to respond with snarkiness and talking down. That's OK actually, it reflects on you not me. If you do not know that right now covid is a pandemic of the vaccinated than ask anyone who works in an ER or an ICU? If you do know this but are in denial... well, can't do nothing about that.

Having read your posts for awhile I think what is happening is you like to debate. You are good at debating. It has gotten to the point where you would rather win a debate than be right in a debate and thus, that is what you do. SO keep up the effort and soon you will be a far left winger who lies for a living.

But none of this solves the problem. What are we going to do with a pandemic that is not stopped by the vaccine and a government in total disarray who is going to continue the devastating shutdowns and mandates until we are totally bankrupted and destroyed.
#5.2.1 OneGuy on 2021-12-18 16:15 (Reply)
AVI is smarter than and knows more than everyone here at MF.
How many times does he have to tell you that before you get it?
Obviously you just don't understand.
#5.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2021-12-18 18:23 (Reply)
ANGUS DALGLEISH: I believe a climate of dread around Covid is deliberately being manufactured by scientists and my fellow medics

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10322873/ANGUS-DALGLEISH-believe-climate-dread-Covid-deliberately-manufactured.html
#6 feeblemind on 2021-12-18 12:21 (Reply)
What? Have we raised a generation of Schtupnagels?

That tiny pocket has always been called a watch pocket, as anyone who can drive a stick shift will tell you.

And a 3" folding knife fits in it nicely, keeping it clear of the larger pocket just below.

I shouldn't have to tell you this.
#7 Michael Anderson (Link) on 2021-12-18 13:37 (Reply)
I often look for alternative pants to my favorite Wrangler jeans. But if they don't have a watch pocket (where I keep a small pencil and chapstick) then I do not buy them.

There is something new I am finding. Pants with two equal size front pockets on one side. Sometimes one is zippered, sometimes not. I really like that option, I may even decide I like it better than the watch pocket.
#7.1 JustMe on 2021-12-18 16:20 (Reply)
Jeans then are not jeans now. The jeans of my childhood had much bigger watch pockets, and substantially bigger pockets overall, and more generous cuts, and high-waisted. The watch pockets of yore were amply sized to fit common pocket watches of the day. And not a whole lot of men used them, because for most people wearing jeans back then, the sun was the only watch you needed.
#7.1.1 Aggie on 2021-12-19 22:30 (Reply)
The Washington Post is looking for a hitman

Look no further, the KiddieZ are available and apparently come cheap.
#8 Zachinoff on 2021-12-18 13:38 (Reply)
Moving way from objective measurements such as the SAT and ACT will eventually result in subjective measurements, which are much more prone to racism. Imagine a racist college in the 1960s formulating a policy where they didn't have to consider the black kid who tested better because their alumni interviewer sent out to talk to him thought some lesser white kid just felt like "more our sort of student" and smarter.
#9 Assistant Village Idiot on 2021-12-18 15:57 (Reply)
45 Vet Clinic Signs That Help Make Any Pet Owner’s Visit More “Paws-itive”

These are a hoot.

https://funcatz.com/2021/10/31/vetsign/?utm_campaign=TW-FC-US-d-vetsign-SP-v2.1-acc3-desktop-LC-maxbid-AE-s-061221&utm_source=TW&utm_medium=3_1467963130475020288&l=m
#10 feeblemind on 2021-12-18 17:28 (Reply)
I use the tiny pocket to hold my pocket knife. Since the pandemic, it also holds two tiny bottles of alcohol to spray on my hands after all the touch screens. Not used as much of late, but did just refill for the cold and flu season.
#11 JK Brown on 2021-12-18 22:16 (Reply)
Student debt. OK, so "the government" cancels all student debt. What about next year's hopeful students? Where do they find tuition money? The Occupy Wall Street people had cancellation of all debt as a goal. I always wanted to find of those and ask what his/her plan was to treat the immediate world-wide depression that would follow.
#12 SgtBob (Link) on 2021-12-18 22:36 (Reply)
The government has no business in loaning or guaranteeing loans to students.
#12.1 OneGuy on 2021-12-19 14:56 (Reply)

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