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Saturday, October 2. 2021Saturday morning linksMick Jagger had a beer at Charlotte’s Thirsty Beaver — and no one noticed, owner says Well, the owner did California to Require COVID-19 Vaccine for Students to Attend Schools Fully Vaccinated Justice Brett Kavanaugh Tests Positive For Covid-19 So what? He isn't sick at all. Vaccinated people can test + The Original M16 Manual Was a Vietnam War Comic Book Vox: Shutting down nuclear plants doesn't make a lot of sense Biden Education Secretary: Parents Shouldn’t Be ‘Primary Stakeholder’ In Their Kids’ Education… What? NYC public housing: For the price of repairs you could buy everybody in them a $400,00 home. VDH: Orwell and the Woke Is this ad for or against Ron Desantis Hunter Biden and the Art of Corruption How did 30,000 Haitians get to Texas? Comments
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That's an ad against Gov DeSantis. Pretty obvious. I'm in awe that he puts up with so much hatred toward him. Ad works fine if it keeps the New Yorkers and Californians out of my state. But it doesn't.
But mobilizing Hate is a preferred tactic. You don't need skills to Hate - you don't even need a reason, you just need a target - which is always helpfully provided, hopefully in a provocative way, to generate Mo' Hate. Hate gives your followers a sense of purpose and emotional gratification - all without the need of any intellectual effort. Plus, the lizard brain remembers the target when it's time to vote.
Another subject: To be even-handed, Secretary Cardona did not say he didn't think parents should be primary stakeholders. Someone was trying to put words into his mouth, seeing if they could push him into parroting them back, or play 'Gotcha' - and he didn't take the bait. That's different. Sometimes reporting from Conservatives does a disservice by being overtly biased and reporting things that aren't true. Those are the behaviors that have been getting us into this mess. Cardona may in fact believe it, who knows - but he didn't say so. You are correct. Terry Mcauliffe (Dem running for governor of VA) actually did say it in a debate this week. When pressed on what Mcauliffe said and whether he agreed, Cardona danced, dodged and mumbled to avoid an explicit answer so as not to anger his constituency (the teachers unions) on one hand or to further damage Mcalliffe's chances on the other. While he didn't say it, he left little doubt he agrees.
Honestly, there are very few celebrities that I would recognize on the street. Even fewer that I would like to socialize with. Mick Jagger would be fun to have a beer with.
Build more nuclear plants. Electrical energy should be cheap, it’s everywhere. Good News: “ This year’s post-melting season (Arctic) ice sheet is 40 percent larger than the record low, which was set in 2012.” We may have one more year left. Of course the self inflicted misery, that the Marxist woke scolds have in mind for us, will be much worse than any climate catastrophe, of which we have already survived 4 or 5 times. Stay filled with hope. God loves us. Is this ad for or against Ron Desantis: It's against, but DeSantis wins the game.
NYC public housing: For the price of repairs you could buy everybody in them a $400,00 home. I presume that's actually $400,000... (Who zeroed out that last 0 ?) It looks like the “no jab, no job” policy is inevitable now. I’m legit worried about my future employment. A friend who works in healthcare sent me one of those religious exemption notes, but I don’t know if it will hold water.
Robert Barnes has a form letter for religious exemption (he's a lawyer)
https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/987884/employer-letter-example-vaccine-mandate-objection I am not sure there really is a religious basis for this. What religion would do this? Do they refuse 100% of vaccines and other life saving drugs? If they do wouldn't that make it a cult and their followers fools? I haven't heard any catholic priests rant against healthcare or vaccines. I'm thinking the entire religious exemption thing is bogus. It's been awhile since I read the bible but I don't remember "thou shall not get life saving vaccines" being in it.
Christian Science - there's an ironic name - rejects modern medicine in favor of the power of prayer. They believe that sickness is an illusion of Satan or some such and just means God is testing your faith. There are less than 100,000 Christian Scientists in the US.
I'm not a lawyer, but: the Gov of NY recently declared that no organized religion says the vaccine is against God. That might be the case, but is it the point? In our society, nobody has the right or the power to dispute your personal religious beliefs. Having a politician tell you that your personal beliefs are irrelevant, while she figuratively stands in a church pulpit and exhorts you to become a 'vaccine apostle', ought to be setting off alarm bells in your survival instincts, if not your religious ones.
The Christian Scientists believe that all healing comes from prayer. I think that Mary Baker Eddy was mostly a quack, but I'm not ever going to condemn someone for believing in it. There are cases where members of the Christian Scientists cult have been sentenced to years in jail for denying health care to a child who died as a result. There are "religions" which promote child sex and drug use. Would that be protected under the 1st amendment? Could you get a "religious exemption" to molest a child? There is even a very large religious cult that advocates mutilating female sex organs, should they get a "religious exemption"?
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Anon
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2021-10-02 11:36
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Really? I don''t know....Have there been any cases of religious exemptions for meglo-maniacal people that want to decide for you what your beliefs ought to be, and make it stick by force? In comic books, maybe.
You need to visit with Z to get some lessons on skills. All of your arguments here are strawmen that are not made in good faith - because none of them have to do with having someone in authority force you to put something into your body that you don't want, on the basis of your personal beliefs. You're being absurd, so, goodbye.
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Aggie
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2021-10-02 12:03
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Aggie: All of your arguments here are strawmen that are not made in good faith
It's an analogous case. The government can force you to provide medical care to your children, even against your religious beliefs. By the way, Christian Science does not impose an official policy, but "For more than a century, our denomination has counseled respect for public health authorities and conscientious obedience to the laws of the land, including those requiring vaccination." https://www.christianscience.com/press-room/a-christian-science-perspective-on-vaccination-and-public-health
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Zachriel
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2021-10-02 12:18
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Yeah that's what people say when they disagree.
I am fully vaccinated and expect to get my booster shot in a few days. I am very pro-vaccine. And I am very pro-freedom of choice. I am opposed to these mandates, firings, and vaccine passports. So you may have inferred too much. What I don't understand is that there is a legitimate "religious exemption". I don't think that there is and it is just a attempt at hijacking religious freedom to mean something it never meant. I might add that I see the lockdowns, social distancing, mask mandates, etc. as pure tyranny and not science. AND if the science did in fact support any of those things I, being a constitutionalist, believe that it would still be unconstitutional to mandate it. We are adults, free citizens with inalienable constitutional rights that no emergency or political power can take from us. IF someone, including politicians and government employees, believe that masks, or lockdowns, or social distancing is "required" in order to save live that they can ONLY apply that to themselves individually and others by their free choice and cannot in any way limit my constitutional rights...PERIOD. Having said all that: I still don't see any valid religious exemptions. AND, an employer has the right to require that their employees wear masks, get vaccinated, wear kilts, dance the Irish jig, wear funny hats, bow to customers... ad infinitum. AND conversely, I as an employee have the right to quit and/or lobby my employer for changes to their requirements. Also, I do believe that at this point it is obvious that masks, lockdowns, and social distancing doesn't work and the ONLY purpose for federal, state and local mandates for these things is CONTROL and to prepare the citizens for even greater and far reaching anti-constitutional mandates. I believe that THIS is a test to see if we will willingly give up our constitutional rights AND I fear that we are failing that test.
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Anon
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2021-10-02 14:48
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Aggie: Robert Barnes has a form letter for religious exemption (he's a lawyer)
QUOTE: First, I request a religious exemption. "Each of the manufactures of the Covid vaccines currently available developed and confirmed their vaccines using fetal cell lines, which originated from aborted fetuses. Notably, there are hundreds of medicines where embryonic stem cells were used for testing or development, including acetaminophen, albuterol, aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Prilosec, and Zoloft. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210918/some-medications-also-tied-to-religious-vaccine-exemption Is the z-bot actually suggesting that embryonic stem cells were used in the development of aspirin? That's a pretty neat trick, considering Bayer received its patent in 1900.
Or is it using a rhetorical flourish to lump any subsequent use of the drug on fetal cells? Earle: actually suggesting that embryonic stem cells were used in the development of aspirin?
For research into aspirin's pharmacological properties. Earle: Or is it using a rhetorical flourish to lump any subsequent use of the drug on fetal cells? We cited WebMD.
#5.1.2.1.1
Zachriel
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2021-10-02 16:34
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Australia has gone full communist/fascist. It appears that the political leadership is totally removed and distant from the population and no longer has their best interests in mind. At the same time it is obvious that the police are actually enjoying their new roll as oppressors and bullies. I understand that the politicians have decided to now use the army to further oppress their citizens and history shows that it doesn't end well when the army is mobilized against civilians.
You remember when the Australian government used a mass shooting by a deranged individual to take everyone's guns? A number of people predicted essentially what we are seeing today; Left wing oppressive politicians taking away rights and freedom and enforcing it with fascist police tactics. Australia is on a cusp. This could go either way. They (the citizens) may have to go full revolution to retain or get back their rights. On the other hand the leaders may choose to go full brown shirt to further oppress and control their citizen/serfs. I learned this elementary cascade of facts in my seventh grade biology class.
1. Vaccines stimulate your body to manufacture antibodies against the target microbe. That's how they friggin' work! 2. Tests for the target microbe, be it a virus or a bacterium, sample the blood for antibodies against the microbe. 3. Vaccinated people now test 'positive' for the microbe. Duh! That's how it works! God our public schools suck. steveaz: 2. Tests for the target microbe, be it a virus or a bacterium, sample the blood for antibodies against the microbe.
Modern technology can test for antibodies or for sequences of the virus itself. When testing for COVID infection, they test for viral sequences. Antibody testing is used to get an idea of how many people have been exposed, even if they haven't shown symptoms (asymptomatic infections). So? If the antibodies are present, the 'test' is simply recorded as a Positive.
The expensive process of testing for viral antigens (the molecules that spur antibody production) is rarely undertaken. AND, he vaccine itself is usually attenuated virus or digested viral antigens (or bits), so, again, you test positive for...(wait for it), The Vaccine. Not the virus! And our public schools and other media still suck! steveaz: So? If the antibodies are present, the 'test' is simply recorded as a Positive.
If the antibodies are positive, it indicates a previous infection or vaccination. steveaz: The expensive process of testing for viral antigens (the molecules that spur antibody production) is rarely undertaken. The standard PCR test for COVID is for viral sequences. You are probably confusing this with whole-genome sequencing. steveaz: AND, he vaccine itself is usually attenuated virus or digested viral antigens The most popular vaccine in the U.S. is mRNA-based. In any case, an antibody test will show positive whether due to natural infection or vaccination. However, the antibodies may attenuate over time. QUOTE: What is a COVID-19 PCR test? The polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test for COVID-19 is a molecular test that analyzes your upper respiratory specimen, looking for genetic material (ribonucleic acid or RNA) of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/21462-covid-19-and-pcr-testing I was reading the synopsis of the book "The Chief Witness". It is about the Chinese Communist government imprisoning people without trials and on trumped up charges and of course their mistreatment of these people because of their politics. I was struck by the similarity between the Jan 6 defendants and this book. I'm going to guess that in the near future we will see books written by some of those Jan 6 political prisoners depicting their mental and physical torture under the oppressive Biden/Garland regime, But! Will American publishers allow these books to be published? Because even our corporations are participants in the left wing government oppression.
May you live in interesting times. OneGuy: I was struck by the similarity between the Jan 6 defendants and this book.
Can you provide an example of someone who has been subjected to trumped up charges, or someone wrongly denied the benefit of pretrial release? There are about 650 of them. One name is Donovan Crowl. https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/the-governments-case-against-many-jan-6-defendants-is-in-legal-jeopardy/
OneGuy: One name is Donovan Crowl.
Donovan Crowl plotted with others to storm the Capitol with the express purpose of impeding the peaceful transfer of power. Gee whiz. They talked about it on Facebook Messenger. He's out on personal recognizance while awaiting trial. What do you think should happen when there is probable cause someone committed a crime? “The only good {n-word} is a dead {n-word}.” — Donovan Crowl, expressing rage about Obama, per his mother Retired green beret Jeremy Brown. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/breaking-fbi-arrests-retired-green-beret-jeremy-brown-attending-jan-6-protests-standing-outside-capitol-refused-informant-1/
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indyjonesouthere
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2021-10-02 16:08
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indyjonesouthere: Jeremy Brown
Brown was on restricted ground and didn't leave when so ordered in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(1) and (2).
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Zachriel
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2021-10-02 16:29
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And restricted ground is an excuse to shut him up...no comment on the fact they have tried to get him to join them in being a snitch along with many other green berets that he mentioned who were being contacted by the fibi's to join them and rat on the anti bidens? Everything the fbi touches turns to shit starting far back with MLK and Whitey Bolger.
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indyjonesouthere
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2021-10-02 16:58
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indyjonesouthere: And restricted ground is an excuse to shut him up...
Uh, it was a standard no trespassing zone to create a security perimeter. He shouldn't be overcharged, but shouldn't he be held to account if he broke the law? indyjonesouthere: no comment on the fact they have tried to get him to join them in being a snitch That's also standard procedure.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-03 07:44
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“The only good {n-word} is a dead {n-word}.”
Strange that you would say that. I don't know it it is true but if it is that is his bad. But yet what he said was not as bad as what Obama's pastor preached for years or what BLM says, or Antifa, or almost any left wing Hollywood star. Strange because that was not the issue. You asked for a name and I gave you one. Did he "storm" the capitol any more than the pro-abortionists have? "impeding the peaceful transfer of power." No! He was protesting the stealing of an election. Why doesn't THAT anger you. Your "guy" stole the election and you defend it. Everyone knows it was stolen. Those that stole it know we know they stole it. And still they lie to our face and smile. Regarding the Jan 6 protest isn't it interesting that the FBI can track every phone in DC and determine where everyone was BUT can't find anything on the cars and vans that delivered 100's of 1000's of fake ballots to the polling places at 3:00 AM. Imagine if our elected leaders put as much effort into finding who stole the election and bringing them to justice as they have in persecuting 500 people who were legally demonstrating the stealing of the election.
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OneGuy
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2021-10-02 17:01
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OneGuy: No! He was protesting the stealing of an election.
That's what nonsense he believed, but it doesn't give him license to break the law. OneGuy: Everyone knows it was stolen. Uh, no. The election wasn't stolen. How many recounts and audits and "audits" does it require to reach the reasonable conclusion that the election was as fair as any in American history? In any case, you haven't provided an example of someone who has been subjected to trumped up charges, or someone wrongly denied the benefit of pretrial release.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-03 07:48
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"Uh, no. The election wasn't stolen." LOL
We all saw it. Best estimate is that Trump actually won by 15 million votes. The Democrats cheated in many states and then at the last minute, 3 AM on the 4th, they shut down the count and sent in 5 million ballots in four states just to get Biden over the hump in spite of the cheating that they had already done. Massive cheating so huge the earth shook. YOU know it and THAT is the reason it MUST be covered up and refuted at every opportunity. MASSIVE cheating on top of the standard 13% cheating that the Democrats do in every election. THAT is why local government election departments have deleted data, hidden data and refused to participate in audits. The Nov 6 protestors were patriots and statues should be built to honor them in the future. Books will be written in explicit detail exposing the Biden-Garland tyranny and lawfare attack on 1st amendment protected protests. The FBI/Antifa/BLM conspiracy top commit violence and destruction during this protest to smeare the patriots will be exposed. This will be like Russiagate and it WILL be exposed and the true conspiracy will be known to all.
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OneGuy
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2021-10-03 10:49
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OneGuy: We all saw it.
You saw what you wanted to see. OneGuy: Best estimate is that Trump actually won by 15 million votes. We'd be happy to look at any specific evidence supporting that claim, or evidence of substantial ballot fraud.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-03 11:02
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The Democrat party sent 2000 lawyers to Arizona to try to stop the vote audit, cover up for Maricopa breaking the law and destroying evidence and to falsify the results. Why would they do that if Biden won Arizona.
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JustMe
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2021-10-05 12:58
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JustMe: Why would they do that if Biden won Arizona.
That's not specific evidence of fraud.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-06 09:29
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My niece came down with the coronavirus back in August and apparently passed it to me. The thing is, as a nurse, she was one of the first to get vaccinated back at the first of the year and I, being uncomfortably close to reaching the age and the mass of being in a high-risk group, got the vaccine soon after. Both cases were fairly mild and we were told we were lucky we had gotten the vaccine or the cases could have been worse. Which is of course nonsense - the majority of cases among the unvaccinated are mild cases as well so there's no evidence that the vaccine was responsible for the mildness of the cases.
It does, however, provide anecdotal evidence that the effects of the vaccine wears off after about 6 months or so. Which raises the question as to whether these "booster shots" are a one time deal or if you're going to require a shot every six months for the rest of your life because the vaccine doesn't actually work. Another question I have is over this "90% of cases are among the unvaccinated" statement, if you read the article they will invariably mention that it's actually for the "not fully vaccinated", not the "unvaccinated". The "not fully vaccinated" includes people who have only had one shot of the two-shot vaccine when we were told that only getting one shot provided some fairly high level of immunity. It also includes people who had gotten the vaccine less than two weeks previously. Which you might think might raise the question of how many people have successfully avoided getting the coronavirus for a year and a half and yet somehow managed to contract it as soon as they got the vaccine. But try finding the breakdown in those numbers on how many people were partially vaccinated and contracted the virus and how many of those were ones who contracted the virus right after getting the vaccine. Jerryskids: But try finding the breakdown in those numbers on how many people were partially vaccinated and contracted the virus and how many of those were ones who contracted the virus right after getting the vaccine.
The partially vaccinated are considered in Griffin et al., SARS-CoV-2 Infections and Hospitalizations Among Persons Aged ≥16 Years, by Vaccination Status - Los Angeles County, California, May 1-July 25, 2021, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) - CDC, 2021. The partially vaccinated group tends to be somewhat smaller and not always subject to data-gathering, but lumping the partially vaccinated with the unvaccinated actually reduces the measured efficacy of the vaccine. Even then, the risk of infection is five times higher in the unvaccinated or partially vaccinated group, and the risk of hospitalization or death is ten times higher. If we didn't lump them together, the ratio would presumably be even greater. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/social-media/mm7037e1_HospitalizationDeathVaccineStatus_IMAGE_10Sept21_1200x675-medium.jpg?_=69823 It appears that Pfizer and Merck are bringing their version of Ivermectin to the sales arena. I suspect they see the waning effectivity of their vaccines and are going to use an Ivermectin simulation to finally get control. Of course their solution will be expensive...but that's the point. Money and control. Pfizermectin for all or is that Mermectin?
indyjonesouthere: It appears that Pfizer and Merck are bringing their version of Ivermectin to the sales arena.
They are entirely different drugs. Ivermectin has been shown in vitro to have antiviral properties, but the necessary doses would have to be very high to be effective, and is thought to work through the suppression of a host cellular process. Merck's Molnupiravir works by causing copying errors during the virus's RNA replication. Trials are ongoing for both drugs. They are NOT entirely different no matter how much you, pfizer, and merck insist. Their vaccine crap doesn't work and now they are going with an ivermectin knockoff in order to stop the vaccine spread. Just as India. And on the other end of the scale, just ask Israel.
indyjonesouthere: They are NOT entirely different no matter how much you, pfizer, and merck insist.
Ivermectin is a lactone derivative, while Molnupiravir is a nucleoside derivative. indyjonesouthere: they are going with an ivermectin knockoff Please provide scientific support for the claim that Molnupiravir is a "knockoff" of Ivermectin. I posted the link from Citizens Free Press several days ago in response to your required "proof". They are both protease inhibitors and function the same. The only difference is price and the ability to patent. Protease inhibitors are the route that all the Pharma's will take.
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indyjonesouthere
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2021-10-02 15:43
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Zachriel
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2021-10-02 16:21
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They will be protease inhibitors because that's what works and they want a profitable product which Ivermectin would not be. Go "fact check" that. Is your fact checker funded by the government?
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indyjonesouthere
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2021-10-02 17:02
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indyjonesouthere: They will be protease inhibitors because that's what works
Merck's Molnupiravir is not a protease inhibitor.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-03 07:53
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And I thought the flu had disapeared. https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post243768
How did 30,000 Haitians get to Texas? Handle it the way that the French just started doing...shoot. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10050681/Horror-Dunkirk-beach-French-police-open-fire-migrants-dinghy-rubber-bullets.html
I’m surprised Z doesn’t have an answer for this. He knows everything.
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