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Friday, October 1. 2021Friday morning linksFastest man on two hands (video) My favorite NYC walking (and transit) map ... the idea that our hundreds of millions of gasoline-powered cars are going to be replaced by EVs within the next century is ridiculous. Due Process — And Normal Social Relations — Are Being Destroyed By COVID Snitching Culture FEMINISM WITHOUT WOMEN ‘Disorientation’ Event at UVA Teaches Students About Campus Racism and Defunding Police Funding for Child Care Seems Nice, But Think Twice 8 States Have Already Made Mail In Voting Permanent Democratic Incrementalism Makes Pandemic Vote-By-Mail Ballots Permanent DHS fears up to 400,000 migrants - or DOUBLE the 21-year record set in July - could cross the border in October when COVID restrictions Trump used to stop the surge from Mexico end, report claims Democrats plan to resurrect Kamala Harris’s reputation What reputation? Biden Is an Increasingly Toxic Combo of Addled and Untruthful Durham Indictment Pulls Back the Curtain on Trump–Russia Collusion Hoax Latest Durham Indictment May Make Russiagate the Most Corrupt Scandal in U.S. History Inspector General Audit Finds ‘Widespread’ Problems With FBI’s FISA Applications England has the highest university tuition fees in the world. Comments
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QUOTE: ... the idea that our hundreds of millions of gasoline-powered cars are going to be replaced by EVs within the next century is ridiculous. ... the idea that our hundreds of millions or horse-drawn carriages are going to be replaced by gasoline-powered cars within the next century is ridiculous. Haha. Reasoning by analogy. Another logical fallacy. You are completely incapable of providing logical support for your position.
You were humiliated yesterday, and it starts fresh again today. She's an ignorant buffoon.
It's trivial to point out her errors. But it's comical to see her respond because it's clear she knows nothing about the subject, she's just doing it from a script. Would love to meet her in real life. I'd tell her that bread, meat and cheese are exclusive products of W. Civ, and she'd be making a sandwich for me in 30 seconds b/c she's that easy to manipulate. I really get a kick out of it when she/he refers to herself/himself as we. We have looked at this, and you are wrong. And now we will move the goal posts and change the subject.
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B. Hammer
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2021-10-01 11:47
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DrTorch: Reasoning by analogy. Another logical fallacy.
Reasoning by analogy is not a fallacy, but a type of argument the strength which varies depending on the specifics. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/reasoning-analogy/ As usual for comments on this blog, falsely claiming analogical reasoning is a fallacy is a vain attempt to attack the argument without actually addressing the specifics. You provided no specifics. So your argument is fallacious.
It's not that hard, because you don't know specifics, as evidenced right here. You went off of a script to provide a link, but you don't understand what the words mean, so you failed to make your point. DrTorch: You provided no specifics.
Indeed, we did. Someone in 1900 might not understand how gasoline-powered cars might become ubiquitous within a century. The argument would be the same. But a century is a long time, and technological change happens even faster now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHSRS_nqAF8&t=326s By the way, the median age of cars in the U.S. is 12 years, so they will be replaced many times over in the next century.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-01 11:33
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That's not a specific, and it's just a continuation of your proposed analogy. So you don't even know what that word means.
Moreover there weren't hundreds of millions of horses in 1870, so that specific would undermine the strength of your agrument. As usual you don't know enough details about a subject to understand it, let alone present a legitimate argument. Hindraker's statement was idiotic, and he should be ridiculed for it. You amusingly enough, can't even do that correctly. DrTorch: That's not a specific, and it's just a continuation of your proposed analogy.
You had said analogistic reasoning is a fallacy. That was false. DrTorch: Moreover there weren't hundreds of millions of horses in 1870 The global population of horses was about 100 million in 1900 with a smaller human population. That's still a lot of infrastructure to adapt or replace. Think of the poor buggy whip manufacturers! Regardless, the lack of foresight is the same.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-01 12:06
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the flaw is reasoning by weak analogy.
stop moving the goal posts. we are not amused by your prevarications. Deport Everyone: the flaw is reasoning by weak analogy.
That wasn't DrTorch's original argument. All you are doing here is saying the analogical argument is weak without saying why. While not admitting his error, at least DrTorch made an attempt at responding by considering the number of horses, but the equine infrastructure was vast in 1900, while the automobile infrastructure was virtually nonexistent. Some people could see the opportunity of the automobile, but others, well, they waved their hands and said it could never happen even in a hundred years.
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Zachriel
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2021-10-01 12:10
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The old "waving their hands" deflection ...
The KiddieZ are trying so hard to remain relevant with their nonsense. Bwaha! Lolgfy !!!
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Zachinoff
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2021-10-01 12:50
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I have to agree with Zach on this one. I think that with enough coal fired manufacturing plants in China making EV's and enough Child labor and slave in mines for rare earth metals and enough subsidies and mandates in the U.S. to force the sale of EVs that we actually could replace all gasoline powered cars in the U.S.
The problem will be how to charge them. But, with enough coal fired manufacturing plants in China and enough child and slave labor in mines for rare earth metals and enough subsidies and mandates in the U.S. we could probably pave half the U.S. with solar panels and erect in the other half enough windmills to actually charge all these EVs. Maybe... You have left out one important part of the plan: Outlawing the internal combustion engine.
The outcome of communism/marxism is two very distinct classes: The ruling class and the rest of us. There will not be a need for massive amount of EV’s. Do you need transportation in the gulag? More coal might be part of the solution, near-term.
But EVs will replace oil-powered cars only after society pulls its collective head out of the sand and finally accepts nuclear power generation for what it is - the only truly sustainable energy source that can support a growing modern economy in the long-term. "England has the highest university tuition..."
Well, yes and no. England (unlike Scotland) has no state universities and no tradition of going to your home university. So one should probably compare fees in England to some weighted average of in-state and out-of-state fees in the USA. The fees are currently about £9,300 p.a. All universities in England (except one-Buckingham) are charitable institutions which receive some national funding. Home (i.e. UK resident) students are all eligible for loans (as in the USA) to cover the fees. These are then repayable out of earnings (the system works like a graduate tax). Overseas students pay very high fees: £24-£30K p.a. Is there a simple explanation for the recent dramatic increase in tuition at English universities? I would guess that if funding from central government is down, this could be to replace it. But I don't have any facts on the ground.
The fastest man on two hands.....
While some of us whine about the smallest thing, a guy with extreme challenges it taking his life by the horns to make the best of it. When I was in high school we attended a regional gymnastics competition, and there was a guy there with this birth defect, competing. Same positive attitude.
He couldn't do the Floor Exercise event obviously, but he competed on the Rings and Parallel Bars (without dismount, also obviously). All the upper body strength events. The thing was, you could see every gymnast there doing the mental calculation of difficulty on this guy's moves, made possible because he wasn't encumbered by the weight of his legs, but also made more difficult because without legs he lacked the ability to swing. You could see them wondering if their abilities were comparable. He had a great outlook on things, and had a lot of admirers. Re: Kamala. She has everything she needs to run the Democrat party. She knows how to use her mouth, and she likes the taste of Brown Willy!!!
I wonder if the attempt to rehabilitate Kami the Kommie’s reputation is battle space preparation to 25th Old Joe.
"Latest Durham Indictment May Make Russiagate the Most Corrupt Scandal in U.S. History" ...
until these bright bulbs catch up to election fraud, soon to be surpassed by vax-scam, the suppression of cheap, effective therapeutics, and the deadly conspiracy of silence surrounding vaxx-injuries. Democratic-led social-engineering collusion can sow mischief halfway around the world before the legal system gets its pants on.
"Suddenly Democrats discover illegal aliens are bringing covid with them." The STUPID is STRONG in these ones...
‘Disorientation’ Event at UVA Teaches Students About Campus Racism and Defunding Police: Reason enough to RUN AWAY, RUN FARRRRRRRRRRRRRR AWAY. The talking heads keep making wild claims in the Petito/Laundrie case. Just now on TV they played a video where Gabby said that she hit Brian first and that he slapped her back. The female talking head claimed that it was the police fault for "blaming the victim" and that the female taking blame is classic" behavior by an abused woman. I'm like; What! Wait! She admitted she hit him first and the police, by law, were obliged to arrest her and charge HER with domestic violence.
Don't misunderstand I suspect that Brian did in fact kill her and soon we will know the facts of the case but this making up stuff on TV to fit a bias sucks. Our markets crashed in 1979 and again in 1999 and again in 2008 and again in 2015. Or did they? They did crash but there was a safety net called "The FED" which spent trillions to prop up the markets so that the crash was mitigated into a mere short lived recession. The "crash" was deferred, not fixed, not corrected, not allowed to run itself out to it's logical conclusion but simply painted over with dollars. Everyone who studied economics knows that just printing or taxing money and using it to coverup a serious underlying problem will only make the situation worse and guarantee that when the chickens come home to roost that it will in the end be far worse than it would have been had we allowed a more natural and self cleansing way of resolving economic issues to just take it's course. That is where we stand today; we are standing on the precipice and we don't honestly know if another "bailout" by the FED will work this time.
Too many things are happening at once and I'm not sure that the FED can defer it one more time AND I'm not sure that the FED is even capable today under their and the countries present leadership. I suspect that when the crash becomes obvious that first it may well be too late and second the FED and the administration will be reluctant to act because it takes them away from their goal of a new world order. Or to put it more succinctly I think we are doomed. What to do? If this actually happens it will be as serious or even more serious than the 1929 crash and the great depression. So what to do? It would take a book length essay to answer that for everyone; every situation. There is no easy answer and no matter what the answer was there would be someone whose situation really required something much different. But there is an easy answer that allows tailoring to your own situation. Think, what would you have done in 1929 if 30 days before the crash you knew what was going to happen? Would you sell your home and move to the country? Hoard food? Sell stocks? Buy gold? Think about that for awhile... Because thee is a really good chance that this is your 30 day notice of impending doom. The Disappearance Of Chinese Megastars Is A Harbinger Of Another Cultural Revolution Underway
https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/01/the-disappearance-of-chinese-megastars-is-a-harbinger-of-another-cultural-revolution-underway/ re DHS fears up to 400,000 migrants - or DOUBLE the 21-year record set in July - could cross the border in October when COVID restrictions Trump used to stop the surge from Mexico end, report claims
This just further evidence that our ruling class does not think COVID to be a serious illness. Illegals can come in as carriers and spread the COVID everywhere and our ruling masters look the other way. If they were genuinely afraid of COVID they would seal the border if for no other reason than to protect themselves. Afraid of Covid? The RC is relying on it to keep the masses terrified and huddled in isolation until so psychologically destroyed they will beg for Nanny Gov to do something, anything, to save them. UBI? Yes, please. Covid Passport? Certainly. Travel restrictions? Oh by all means. Cage or kill the unvaccinated? YES! Masks forever? We must, I tell you, we must - for the good of the children. Vaccinate kids? Silly you - how else will they survive the 0 deaths they are likely to suffer or keep from killing granny. Electronic money? How convenient. Social Credit System? Sounds good - gotta keep the riff-raff from taking over, ya know.
Build Back Better!!! Re: the idea that our hundreds of millions of gasoline-powered cars are going to be replaced by EVs within the next century is ridiculous.
I keep trying to tell you, they don't care about replacing ICE cars with electric cars, they only care about getting rid of the ICE cars. They're not going to replace hundreds of millions of ICE cars with electric cars, they're going to replace them with bicycles and shoe leather. It's the same with the smug rebuttal of being able to replace fossil fuel energy with renewable energy, there's just no way wind and solar can produce as much electricity as we want. It's not that they want to replace fossil fuel with renewables, they want to get rid of fossil fuel energy and replace it with nothing. Human beings are a cancer on the Earth and we are killing Mother Gaia, we need to be punished for being greedy and wanting more than we should want and the punishment starts by killing off about 90% of the human race. That's the end game of these ecofreaks, sentencing billions of people to death and recreating a hunter/gatherer society for the rest of them. I couldn't have said it better myself. These obtuse, hubristic ghouls afflicted with Dunning-Kruger are a cancer - where's that cure when you need it.
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